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News :: Organizing
The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
02 Nov 2005
Harvard and Cambridge Latin students joined the "World Can't Wait" action today by speaking out against the war in Iraq, walking on a single file around campus, and recruiting others for a greater march later today in the Boston Commons.
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Cambridge Latin High School students came to protest in spite of what they called an "empty threat" from the principal to suspend them for three days if they joined the national day of action against the war.

The students were also greeted by Harvard staff who have been protesting the war every Wednesday at noon, ever since the Abu Ghraib torture scandal erupted, by walking in silent protest around campus. Similar walkouts occur every Wednesday at Boston College and Boston University.

"It's so good to see all these young people coming out against the war!" said an elderly activist who has regularly walked out on Wednesdays.

One of the organizers, Steven Bloomfield, spoke to the crowd about meeting hate with healing as a tool for defeating the architects of war. "We will not become victims of this war," he said. He recently was awarded the 2005 Peace and Justice Award by the Cambridge Peace Commission for his commitment to anti-war activism.

Racism, classism, and relocating funds to social causes instead of a war were many of the issues talked about at the protest. According to the National Priorities Project, the cost of war totaled about $205 billion by the end of the 2005 fiscal year.

The "World Can't Wait" campaign was set up as a civilian response to the Bush administration's mishandling and cover-up of intelligence to pursue an illegal war in Iraq.
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See also:
http://www.worldcantwait.net/
http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=182

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Re: The World Can't Wait: Photos @ harvard
02 Nov 2005
"classism"

Fuck worrying about classism. Target class.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Photos @ harvard
02 Nov 2005
Thanks for the great pictures! Does anyone have more pictures from the larger demonstration on Boston Common?

A brief report on that: Today, the anniversary of Bush's re-election, students from over a dozen high schools and colleges in the Boston area walked out and joined a citywide
protest against the war and military recruitment on Boston Common. Over 250
students gathered on the Common to hear youth speakers, many speaking before a crowd for their first time. The response to the call for walkouts was tremendous. Over 200 students alone walked out at Quincy High School, and 75 at the Academy of the Pacific Rim. Students came from the suburbs as well, and from as far away as New Hampshire.

Students walked out at Quincy High School, Cambridge Rindge and Latin High School, Scituate High School, Wellesley High School, Cambridge School of Weston, Boston Latin Academy, Buckingham, Browne, and Nichols, Lexington High School, Academy of the Pacific Rim, Sanborn Regional High School, Austin Prep,
Framingham State College, UMass-Boston, Suffolk University, Harvard University, Tufts University, Boston College, and Emerson College.

The event was really inspiring. The crowd was almost entirely young people. For many students it was their first or second protest ever. Much of the crowd was high school students, who had heard about the walkout through leafletting by members of Socialist Alternative, at the October 29th, or some who had seen stickers around the city. The rally was a really good time. It was really awesome because many people felt free to come up and speak their mind, and did an excellent job, in particular the high school students. There was also a really energetic march from the Common to the military recruiting station across the street, to
the State House, and back to the bandstand on the Common.

The most urgent task now is to organize a solidarity campaign with all those students who face disciplinary action for walking out. There are many students who are facing suspension. More will be sent out about this soon. We will need people to call in to school administrators who are thinking about punishing students
and dissuade them from doing so, and to get friends, co-workers, students, etc.
to do so.

If you were at the walkout and are now facing repression, please contact us!!! And please post reports from your school!

In solidarity,

Dan
Boston Socialist Alternative
Tufts Coalition Opposed to the War in Iraq

www.socialistalternative.org
www.yawr.org
Re: The World Can't Wait: Photos @ harvard
02 Nov 2005
The best thing for the Iraqi people is for us to simply leave and admit failure. Saddam has not yet been tried so we simply declare a mistrial and say we're sorry. At least Saddam was able to keep control of the country. If we let him go and restore him to power he will be our best ally in the middle east. He really didn't do us any harm and his people seem to want him back in power, so why not?
Re: The World Can't Wait: Photos @ harvard
03 Nov 2005
i have more pics from the larger demo but uploading is disabled as of 2:12 am... i will find other means of distribution...
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
03 Nov 2005
Continue to support of brave soldiers. The give you characters the right to act silly in crowds and print gibberish for those that believe it.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
03 Nov 2005
Veteran is right, our soliders should come home and take care of the assholes who are trying to strip us of our civil rights. The US Marines ought to storm the stockade that is holding US citizen Jose Pedia indefinitely and without charge. Then the brave men and women who signed up to protect this nation and its constitution ought to go to Washington and demand that fair voting practices be instituted so that the horrible events of the past two presidential elections are not repeated. Then they should take over the Senate and us violence if necessary to ensure that real campaign finance reform is enacted, so that no politician will ever be able to accept corporate money ever again. Put the governance into the hands of the people!!! Destroy the Plutocracy!!! Long Life the Brave Men and Women in Uniform!!! May they stop being paid to kill innocent people in 3rd world countries and finally get to do their Jobs!!!!
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
03 Nov 2005
Our men and women are not paid to kill anyone. They are paid for a service they provide. They are peacemakers who go where they are needed to help others. Plain and simple.
US military members would love helping at home but we also know that being at the bottom of the totem pole here in the United States is one hundred times better than being in Cuba, North Korea, Iraq or some of those other countries.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
03 Nov 2005
Veteran I have no problem with peacemakers, but the people of Iraq were not living in a war zone before the US invaded. We brought war to that country, not peace. My father is a West Point graduate, both of my grandfathers served in WWII and retired as colonels, yet I know of no one in my family that supports this horrible tragedy that we have unleashed on the people of Iraq. There is nothing anti-patriotic about taking advantage of free speech in this country, or asking that our troops come home. I support those so-called brave men and women with my tax dollars; I don't have to support the illegitimate errands they get sent on.
Hey Zoots
03 Nov 2005
Do you know any native Americans...
Re: The World Can't Wait: Audio of Phoenix WCW Rally
03 Nov 2005
Listen to the WCW Protest in downtown Phoenix 11-02-05 at link below. Speakers and Chants in Rally thru downtown Phoenix Arizona:
http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2005/11/7542.php
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
04 Nov 2005
Saddam brought terror and death to his people daily for years. We brought limited war to end that regime of terror and destabilization. The war is over and has been for a long time. It's the terrorists who have no problems blowing anyone and anything up. They stop we go home. Plain and simple. Will they stop? Of course not, you can't reason with an animal bent on killing. Once the Iraqi forces are trained and confident we can go home.

Also, ask the tens of millions of Iraqi children who are thankful for the food on their table, the ability to get an education and the chance at a better life. The same children who feared the night becuase they did not know if their parents were going to be ripped from them, taken away and tortured becuase they spoke out about their "leader". Americans have the right and the ability to whine and complain about their ellected officials. In Iraq five years ago that would have been a death sentence. Any time United States military peacekeepers can give a child the glimmer of hope for a better life we should jump at it! A free Iraq governed by the people of Iraq is not a wasted effort or an illegitimate errand. WMD, were there. That is a fact. Had we taken care of this issue back in 90-91 things would have been different.
With all BS aside, I have not met one single service member who does not believe in the mission?
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
04 Nov 2005
I'm glad you're going to lay off the B.S. Veteran (if indeed that's what you are) Try laying off the crack too. Your description of the paradise that is Iraq is fanciful at best, but dangerously misinformed is likely closer to the mark. So you haven't met a single serviceman who doesn't believe in the mission. Wow. Since you seem to spend all your waking hours online, I suppose that's where you meet all those "servicemen" who tell you how great the war is. Except that they're actually teenagers playing the latest Pentagon-issue combat simulator, right? And I guess you haven't seen the website where soldiers are trading pics of people theyve killed for pornography. I remember Jesus saying something about that... The saddest thing is that you come here to talk trash, not to support any troops, even as a growing majority of Americans is calling for an investigation of the bogus case manufactured to sell this war to a public whipped by a complicit media into a frenzy of fear, ignorance, and irrational, unamerican behavior. You should move to North Korea--I hear they worship maniacal and incompetent leaders who spend all of their people's money on weapons instead of providing for their needs.
IRAQ NEEDS SADDAM
04 Nov 2005
Indeed the Iraqi people were better off and happier under Saddam. He brought stability and control to that diverse nation. He kept the Kurds and Shiites in check. He also kept population numbers in control. The present situation demonstrates that the Iraqi people have not yet reached a cultural maturity to handle democracy and must be led by a benevolent dictator like Saddam. Another beneficial thing that Saddam brought was the elimination of dissidents within the country. A country with a large dissident population cannot survive. Through selected imprisonment and selective execution, Saddam not only physically eliminated opposition, but sent a clear message that opposition would not be tolerated. The Iraqi people liked this and actually thrived under it. They always knew what the rules were and how to play by them. While it is unfortunate for the families of those imprisoned or executed, it is also true that these families are in part to blame. They owed it to their dissident family members to reign them in. They also owed it to their country. What we have now is the very real danger that the Kurds will set up their own democracy in the north. The Kurds, due to their tribal/cultural background are the only group in Iraq capable of democracy. If they are allowed to establish democracy, then Iraq ia doomed. Only Saddam can stop this.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
04 Nov 2005
If I want to worship the goddess of oompapamama, that is my right and you have no right to criticize or say anything negative about it. This is what diversity is all about. Full respect for someone else's opinions.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
04 Nov 2005
As always, the misinformed perform us all a great service by keeping us laughing.
Have you read what you wrote? Silly yet scary!
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
04 Nov 2005
Please don't waste your time with Sid and Veteran[the chicken hawk republican].They want to waste your time that's their game.Ignore them!!!! They are on every comment posting.They have no life other than this.It's very sad that they suffer with mental illness.
LET'S GET THE TROOPS THE HELL OUT OF IRAQ...
04 Nov 2005
...right after a good carpet bombing. We Americans may build shitty, gas guzzling cars, but we show great proficiency with explosives. The convoy of trucks carrying the pre-fab, McDonalds, Wal-Marts, etc. should be on standby in Kuwait by now. Camel McNuggets anyone ?
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
05 Nov 2005
Zoots still has not proven that his father was a West Point Grad. Zoots...what's the definition of leather?
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
05 Nov 2005
Well, Sid, Zoots is obviously a liar. Here is the answer to the question "What's the definition of leather?"
"Sir, if the fresh skin of an animal, cleaned and divested of all hair, fat, and other extraneous matter, be immersed in a dilute solution of tannic acid, a chemical combination ensues; the gelatinous tissue of the skin is converted into a non-putrescible substance, impervious to and insoluble in water. This, Sir, is leather."

Now this would be obvious to any west pointer. Zoots could have asked his father or called west point.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
05 Nov 2005
Iraq needs Saddam and Hitler kept the trains running on time. Are you people crazy or what? And see I use my real name; not a stupid made up one. The war you are protesting is already over. Now we are HELPING the Iraqis fight against terrorists in their country WITH the consent of an elected government. Eat me and my 20 years USAF service.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
06 Nov 2005
the only way that we can be democratic in iraq is by leaving. the majority of iraqis want us out. THAT would be democracy.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
06 Nov 2005
Opus said it perfectly. The Iraqi people want Saddam Hussein back. He should be allowed to return to power. Any Iraqi government that does not include Saddam as president is not a legitimate government. Let's not forget that in the last Iraqi election, a full 99% of the people voted and Saddam received 98% of the vote. Clearly, the people support Saddam. Contrast this to the previous four elections in the US where approximately 35% of the American people voted. The people of Iraq spoke clearly when they voted OVERWHELMINGLY for Saddam. Let's allow the voice of the people to rule.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
06 Nov 2005
Mindy, what an odd odd troll you are.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
06 Nov 2005
Aren't you against the war RiotGrrl? Aren't you for Iraqi self government?
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
06 Nov 2005
Hey, there's another anti-war artical on the newswire
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
07 Nov 2005
Iraq is free and the people are taking charge of their own destiny. A free Iraq where children can grow up and raise their own families not in fear but in a democratic country.
O'Neil, thanks for serving! Enjoy Veterans Day, we earned it!
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
07 Nov 2005
The Iraqis took charge of their destiny. They elected Saddam to be president. That should have been the end of it. He was like a father to his people. Benevolent, yet stern when he had to be. All that he asked was that people follow the rules and be loyal. Who were we to come in and say otherwise.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
07 Nov 2005
Wow, you almsot make him sound like a caring human. Almost sounds like a gentle and just leader whose only concern was for the betterment of his nation. That eight year "disagreement" with Iran tells a different story.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
07 Nov 2005
mindy, do you honestly think that saddam getting 98% of the votes was a fair and untampered election? even if iraq is not free under the occupation forces, and even if it probably was better under saddam hussein, that doesn't mean he should be reinstalled to power. he WAS an asshole, even if we had no reason for overthrowing him.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
07 Nov 2005
Is being an asshole justification for overthrowing the government of a sovereign nation? You people are warmongers in disguise.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
07 Nov 2005
are you fucking kidding me? never once did i say i supported the US army overthrowing him. all i said was that he was authoritarian, which i am against as an anarchist. i fucking aknowledged that it was better under him. i simply said the election was fraudelant and that he was a dictator. i don't know what the ANSWER party line that you and opus are following is, but even a dictator that is against the US is still an dictator.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
07 Nov 2005
veteran are you saying you support the Iranian regime? cause when bush is invading iran i can't wait to see what you say about the atrocities they commited against iraqi troops.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
08 Nov 2005
i do not like saddam but the country was in better shape, seeing as how there weren't brutal occupation forces on every corner.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
08 Nov 2005
Brutal occupation forces on every street corner? Where? United States military peacekeepers can be seen (with our allies) and their Iraqi counterparts secuuring street corners and usually shooting the breeze with the civilian population. Nothing brutal about explaining the rules of football to a young teenage Iraqi boy who now has a better future ahead of him.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
08 Nov 2005
Umm Noah...ARE YOU A NUT JOB??? Do you really believe that the Iraqis were better off under Saddam? You anarchists must have done lots of drugs in the hippie days - or these days. Wow.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
08 Nov 2005
I mean, I want the US to withdraw immediately and unconditionally, but Sadaam was still a ruthless dictator.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
09 Nov 2005
so does the breeze represent the tens of thousands of civilians they've shot? because they sure do that a lot to.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
09 Nov 2005
veteran do you just swallow everything tyhis administration tells you? did you see the pictures at ABU Ghraib? did you see the footage of US soldiers executing people in Mosques in Fallujah? and did you read in the globe about how the US used white phospherous on civilians in Fallujah? they are doing much more that teaching kids how to play football. that is propaghanda and you are stupid enough to believe it.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
09 Nov 2005
sid you don't get what i am sayong. i too am saying that i hate saddam hussein because he WAS a brutal dictator. however, all i am saying is that Iraq is in worse shape since the US invaded.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
09 Nov 2005
So Noah, I guess we are in total agreement. I just misunderstood you. (Sometimes I'm a little slow. Sorry)
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
09 Nov 2005
Are you stupid enough NOT to be able to look at two sides of an issue? I'm not! No one ever said that war is nice and that there will never be individuals who will act on their own accord, for whatever reason, and hurt others. Not going to deny that BUT the country is in a better place it just does not get promoted in teh right way. Death and instigation sell papers not happinesses and successes. You must be able to see that. Also, I do have some experience with propaganda so I know it when I read/hear it. Do you?
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
09 Nov 2005
you're not looking at both sides. you are simply saying that the troops are heros and they have every right to be there.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
09 Nov 2005
Noah, you said:
"so does the breeze represent the tens of thousands of civilians they've shot? because they sure do that a lot to. "

You irresponsibly assert this yet you have absolutely no evidence that what you assert is true. How do you feel about the civilians that the Jihadis have killed?
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
09 Nov 2005
We have to recognize that yes, the US forces have been killing civialians by the truck load but so have the Iraqi so-called Freedom fighters.
The reality is that this war has created a terrible situation, and there are no easy answers. I concede that if it were not for the US waging an unjustifiable war it would never have happened, but the elements currently active in Iraq are not saints.
There is only one identifiable solution: pull out and just try to help the average citizens with humanitarian aid.
We will never gain control of the radical Islamists that have become the major voices in this hell that is Iraq.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
09 Nov 2005
Tell me what was unjustifiable about this war?
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
09 Nov 2005
" Tell me what was unjustifiable about this war?"

I don't think anything can be proven "unjustifiable". The burden of proof is on you guys, and one by one all the justifications you've given have collapsed.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
09 Nov 2005
i don't support the islamic resistance because they terrorize civilians too, which is not cool, whether done by left wing folks or right wing folks. however, i sympathize with them somewhat, because i know that no matter how much i dislike this country and even it's people, not just the government, i would never bow under a foriegn army even if they did get rid of bush. i mean can't you see slightly where they're coming from even if they are not exactly the nicest people? they are fighting against they're enemy and the US soldiers are simply there fighting because bush sent them there. i support the troops because most of them are poor kids who had no other choice.

wow that was pretty rambling. i hope you canmake sense of that.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
09 Nov 2005
If I may quote from Veteran's earlier comment: "I have not met one single service member who does not believe in the mission."

Hello?
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
09 Nov 2005
Ok Ori...how about this? 19 United Nations resolutions violated, Mass murders, a willingness to use chemical weapons, open suppport for islamic terrorists (that even Saddam admitted), complicity in the first world trade center bombing, conspiracy to assassinate a United States president, firing on UN airplanes in the no-fly zone. The only collapse that you can point to is the absence of chemical weapons found but even Hans Blix admits that many were moved to Syria.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
10 Nov 2005
I just want to add to my last e-mail. I didn’t have time to elaborate. Ok I admit many of these assertions are weak but they were all we had to go on. The guy did violate 19 United Nations resolutions but they were very invasive. In fact, it might be said that few sovereign nations would have been able to comply with all of them. I mean the US would not allow international elections inspectors into the 2004 polling stations. Sadaam did allow weapons inspectors in, with unrestricted access, not long before we invaded. Also, I have to admit that the US violated UN law when it attacked a sovereign country, without UN Security Council authorization. I guess we can't really expect Sadaam to follow UN law if we are not any better. He did commit mass murders, but two wrongs don't make a right, and that is exactly what US forces did when they cordoned off and then destroyed Fallujah. Sadamm did demonstrate a willingness to use chemical weapons THAT THE US SOLD HIM, so I guess we can only be called hypocrites if we crucify him for that. We should have let an independent body decide, but we were so ready to take that oil we couldn’t wait. Sadaam may support islamic terrorists (not that islamic terrorists are any worse than other terrorists) and may have been complicit in the first world trade center bombing. He may have been involved in a conspiracy to assassinate a United States president, but Bush Sr. deserved it, if for nothing else supporting countless death squads in Latin America. I guess we almost all people agree Sadaam is a monster, but he’s not the only one. I just wish you folks would recognize that the US leadership, which has created a horrible vicious cycle of violence with no end in sight is little better. Eventually, the war will come home and then we'll all blame the terrorists or whoever, because we're too stupid (or proud) to recognize that all actions have reactions. The murder of innocent people and the theft of natural resources will never make the world a safer, more humane place.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
10 Nov 2005
Actually, that wasn;t your last email, it was mine and the fact that Saddam had wespons that we sold him is irrelevant. The fact is that regardless as to where he got the weapons - he got many from Russia too - he intended to misuse them. The rest of your post sid, is simply diatribe and democtar talking points.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
10 Nov 2005
So, since Russia Did it that makes it OK?
Sid listen to yourself.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
10 Nov 2005
Scholom, you don't count. I have read much of what you write and it is obvious that the recruiters pushed you through, the drill sergeants pushed you through and you were a sub standard soldier with an attitude. Being in commo, you were ALLOWED to continue to wear the uniform of the US Army until you ETS'ed. Had you been an 11, 18 or 19 series your stay in the military would have been short lived. Sub-standard kids were not allowed or tolerated. Mnny great units like the 10th, 82nd, 101st, 75th, LRSD, SF and so on who actually do the peacemaking would have laughed you right out the door. I am guessing that the first thing you did when you returned was whine and spark up a joint.
HAve a Happy Veterans Day, we earned it for you to whine about it!
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
10 Nov 2005
Veteran, you are a dumb shit. First off, you mispelled my name; which is pretty difficult to do when you have the correct spelling staring you in the face. Second, you make a couple of blatant assumptions about me without knowing shit about my life.

You couldn't have read much of what I wrote because I haven't written much. I don't believe we've met in person, so all you know of me is from what I've written on Indymedia; and that doesn't say much.

The recruiters didn't push me through; in fact, I was not sought out by the recruiters, I was the one who made the initial contact. The drill sergeants didn't push me through either; I excelled in basic training, I was highly motivated and pushed myself to excel because I had everything to lose if I didn't make it through. I was not a sub-standard soldier either, I didn't have an attitude until well into my second deployment. In fact, until my realization that this war is bullshit, I was headed on the fast track to being an NCO. Granted, I wasn't 11 series, but that doesn't say shit.

Additionally, I wasn't in some pogue-ass, rear echelon support unit. See, there's where you come off as the biggest ass of them all. You claim that the elite units like the 82nd, the 101st, and the rangers would have laughed me right out the door, yet you have no fucking clue as to what unit I was in.

Now, if you want to talk shit about me, I'd request that you get off your fat ass and make arrangements to meet me in person. If you don't have what it takes to trash me to my face, you're probably best off reserving your shit-talk for your lazy, drunken buddies down at the American Legion.

And for the record, I'm not the only veteran of Iraq and/or Afghanistan who's against these wars.

Enjoy your veteran's day, I've got more important things to do than participate in some pointless pageantry.
And One More Thing!
11 Nov 2005
Sorry Sophie. I know you say that this is a policy violation, but PFFFFFFFT to you.

This Sid wants us to stay there until the job is done. In addition I want us to kick some serious al qaeda jihadi butt.
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
13 Nov 2005
Then why the hell are you in Boston?
Re: The World Can't Wait: Students Against the War
13 Nov 2005
At ease, private! :)

Hope all had an enjoyable Veterans Day.
To Veteran
14 Nov 2005
Semper Fi !! I hope you had a good Veteran's Day. I did my 6 YEARS !