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Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
03 Jan 2006
About 15 Palestine solidarity activists gathered on the Boston common Saturday to protest the ongoing occupation and theft of land by Israeli forces throughout the west bank. We gathered to educate people about the hardship it causes the residents of Bethlehem and Jerusalem both Christian, Muslim and other. Due to media and Israeli military censorship people are generally unable to witness the construction of the wall first hand and to see the racism of the occupation and its structures.
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A mock Apartheid wall was erected in front of the Christmas chresh manger scene representing the Bible story of the birth of Jesus in Bethlehem. Today Bethlehem is almost completely cut off by a concrete wall that is twice as high as the Berlin wall and streches in various forms four times as long. Designed to steal farms, land and water resources from the indiginious residents of Palestine and strangle their communities to death the wall has become an infamous icon of Zionist colonization and American imperialism in the near and middle east.

The wall we constructed awoke powerful reactions from the public some who demanded that it be taken down or moved away from a site of religious significance to many. Some shouted "move it" and "take it down". Americans disturbed by the sight of our "Israeli apartheid annexation wall" pointed out in no uncertain terms the offensive nature of it. The builders of the wall endured several assaults and many insults including "get a job", "get a life" and "your an alcoholic".

Many folks sympathized with the plight of Palestinians some joining in to carry signs like "Freedom For Palestine", "Victory to the Intifada", "the wall will fall- Bilin to Abu Dis" and "The right of Return"(is sacred).

After an hour at least 10 law enforcement personnel including Boston city police, National Park rangers and undercover detectives arrived to get the wall moved. They tried provenly unsuccessful tactics such as threatening dedicated activists with arrest and saying things like "You don't have a permit", "your blocking peoples access"(to Jesus) and "take me to your leader, I want to talk to your leader.".

Eventually a high level police official who had clearly gotten to the rank for his skills as a bully was summoned to effect a show of force and wrap up the nice afternoon in the park for the police who had taken to standing around catching rays, watching the show and talking shop. Cop shop that is.

It was a nice day for a demonstration, we generated a lot of discussion and despite the few insults, threats and assaults people seemed to be empowered by the action and the support it got.

Photos
http://rule19.org/pgallery/05-deciw.htm

More Photos
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2115708381&mode=guest

Video
http://1948wall.blogspot.com/

Video of hot protests against the wall in Bilin:
http://stage.co.il/s/476023

more info about the wall.
http://www.stopthewall.org/
http://www.palsolidarity.org
http://www.imemc.org
http://www.electronicintifada.org
http://www.ismboston.org
http://www.onepalestine.org
http://www.bcpr.org
http://www.divestmentproject.org
http://www.newjerseysolidarity.org/
http://pittsburgh.indymedia.org/news/2005/09/20714.php
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Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
26 Dec 2005
Opps here is the Bilin Video Link
http://stage.co.il/s/476023
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
26 Dec 2005
Oh, so it is the wall that you hate.

You know, American soldiers didn't risk or loose thier lives and limbs because Nazis built a wall along the French Atlantic coast. They did so because Nazis were murderous thieves of thier neighbor's homeland. You know, like ZIonists in Palestinian's homeland ARE.
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
26 Dec 2005
These guys get major boos from me. Anybody who disrespects my Christmas holiday automatically loses my support. Including these wannabe Palestinians. The article itself denigrates Christianity. IMC is supporting religious bigotry.
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
26 Dec 2005
This is as bad as knocking over headstones. I am disgusted!
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
26 Dec 2005
Um, that's kindof their point that Bethlahem is hemmed in like this and that that is offensive...
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
26 Dec 2005
Anti-Christian wolves in sheep's clothing who have convinced wannabe Christians to treat our Palestinian neighbors as we would not have our Palestinian neighbors treating us are the ones who denigrate Christianity.

Not only have the anti-Christians been evil to palestinians by supplying Zionists with the means to destroy our Palestinian neighbors, they are also evil to other Americans by: a. stealing public taxes to finance the offenses; b. creating the hatred that has been finding its way back at Americans in the form of terrorism for decades by reloading the murderous thieving zionist crusader's guns as fast as ZIonists unload them into Palestinians; and c. denying the American Christians (real Christians) the religious right to live as Jesus actually said to live.

It is by thier fruits that you shall know them. Not by what they call themselves. Zionists are not the biblical Israel. And the bible makes that clear to all with eyes that see and ears that hear.
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
26 Dec 2005
I think that the article is written with a clear bias against the authorities, but I think the points they raise are good ones.
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
26 Dec 2005
I also think that the idea that this is "offensive" to Christmas is a joke. The entire consumerism fetish that modern day Christians-when-they-feel-like-it is offensive to Christmas. What these activisits did was a political performance piece that clearly addresses the issues faced in Israel/Palestine by providing locals with a LOCAL example.
Don't take troll comments seriously.
26 Dec 2005
There are obsessive compulsive people who spend ALL of their time thinking up any and all possible reasons they can feign offensive. It's a psychological weapon and nothing more.

Blocking the manger for the reasons stated was a good symbolic expression. Cheers to whoever thought it up.
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
26 Dec 2005
And I'll be a Christian on fibonacci ordered days if I damn well feel like it.
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
27 Dec 2005
They should have bulldozed the manger with the women and child in it then they would be like real Israelis.
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
27 Dec 2005
It's good to see that the guy who's holding the "Victory to the Infitada" sign is wearing something different than his flannel shirt. Where's the Bagelman ?
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
27 Dec 2005
Don't treat Palestinians as you would have them treat you. Atribute to yourselves the authority of Satan and give Zionists your blessings to be murderous thieves of Palestinian lands, and take a dump on the constitution by using government to steal your neighbor's taxes to finance your god's will.

Separate the thorns from the harvest. We don't need the thorns which shall be cast into the fire.
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
27 Dec 2005
Peace activists occupied the Manger in Boston Commons today.
A film on Al Jezeera shows the plastic statues of Mary, Joseph and Baby Jesus sitting on the floor with blindfolds over their faces.
Surrounding them are Peace Activists, with their faces covered with pilldw cases and table clothes (FAUX KEFIYES) holding Star Wars Light Sabres, and The Mask of Zoppre Antonio bandaras Swords. They have threatened to behead the plastic figures, if Israel doesn't tear down the APARTHEID WALL, which has been keeping Moslems from celebrating Christmas in Bethlehem. Israel says the APARTHEID WALL is to keep suicide bombers out, but it is cleary an ATTACK on Christmas
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
27 Dec 2005
Thanks for being so void of substance.

Like inter or intra tribal conflicts between Muslims gives Zionists a birthright of murderous theft of Palestinian lands or makes interloaper's support of the Zionists murderous theft of Palestinian lands any less of the offense we all know it to be. Right!

I'm sure some people are prejudiced/stupid enough to buy into your vacant rationalizations and scapegoating. Keep up the shoddy work of insulting people's inteligence.
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
27 Dec 2005
Thank you so much for showing Americans what the Palestinian Christians and Muslims experience everyday in Bethlehem with the wall and check points.The Israelis make their life a constant hell.Yes, I'm a Jew who hates zionist Israel.Ghandi and Albert Einstein were totally opposed to creating the state of Isreal.They were strong anti-zionists and not afraid to speak out.They knew what the zionists would do to the Palestinians.Shame on the British and Americans for allowing this to happen.And now they're killing Iraqis.No wonder the world hates us so much.
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
27 Dec 2005
Living in Germany, Einstein was a pacifist. After WWII, he was not.
You've fallen for PaliPropaganda
What do you think Ghandi would have said about the suicide bombers?
"The two social movements that received his full support were pacifism and Zionism. During World War I he was one of a handful of German academics willing to publicly decry Germany's involvement in the war. After the war his continued public support of pacifist and Zionist goals made him the target of vicious attacks by anti-Semitic and right-wing elements in Germany.

Even his scientific theories were publicly ridiculed, especially the theory of relativity. When Hitler came to power, Einstein immediately decided to leave Germany for the United States. He took a position at the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton, New Jersey. While continuing his efforts on behalf of world Zionism, Einstein renounced his former pacifist stand in the face of the awesome threat to humankind posed by the Nazi regime in Germany. "

You've fallen for PaliPropaganda
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
28 Dec 2005
GHandi was opposed to "terrorism" being used to liberate India. I suppose he would also be opposed to suicide bombers liberating Palestinian lands from murderous thieving Zionist crusaders by using suicide bombers. Ghandi tried to shame Britts out of India and destroy thier support in the west. SO, Ghandi would have probably supported shaming anti-Christian Democraps and Republitrash for reloading the murderous thieving ZIonist crusaders guns as fast as ZIonists unload them into thier palestinian victims.

Would mohatma Einstien like to explain how anti-Semetism in Germany gives ZIonists a birthright of murderous theft of Palestinian lands??? You present a supposition, change the subject, then present the supposition as fact. Bizzarro irrational diatribes don't give ZIonists a birthright of murderous theft of even 1 single rock in Palestine, even if Einstein was a supporter of the ZIonist's murderous theft of Palestinian lands as so many other western interlopers have done and still do.

Keep up the shoddy work. Or, run away from your own suppositions. Either way, you end up showing your true colors.
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
28 Dec 2005
Today in the Boston Commons, Peace Activists set up mortar positions surrounding the Manger. One plastic goat was hit by shrapnel from the "Katyusha" rockets (Peace Activists made them using toilet paper tubes and baking soda). The Plastic goat is in stable condition and is expected to go back to the Manger tomorrow. Neither Mary, Joesph nor Baby Jesus was hurt by the Peace Activist's attack.
Said one Peace Actiovist: "We are just showing the people what peace means, and how to attain it The Manger is currently occupied by statues of Jews and has been symbolically occupied for over 2000 years."
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
28 Dec 2005
Katyushas are for liberation. Since the ZIonist's bloodsoaked crusade is NOT peace to Palestinians, any more than the Nazi's war of conquest of thier neigbhor's homelands equated to peace for the Nazi's victims, it could be accuratly said that Katyushas are for PEACE but only if PEACE comes after Palestine is liberated from the murderous thieving ZIonist crusaders. BUT, liberation of Palestinian lands from murderous thieving ZIonist crusaders does NOT automaticly equate to PEACE for the Palestinians. Palestinians could be invaded by Syrians or Egypians or sink into civil war among themselves which would NOT mean PEACE for the Palestinians. But what is certain to ALL is that Zionist crusade does NOT equate to PEACE for the Palestinians just as the nazi's war of conquest did NOT equate to PEACE to thier chosen victims.

Your callous jokes hold no substance and only showcase you own prejudiced hatred of the Zionist's chosen victims and your own prejudiced appeasment of Zionist offenses. It also makes you look pretty stupid, since you obviously assume you are making a valid point. Clean up your act or expect your prejudices to be exposed AGAIN. Not that I don't enjoy exposing the vile prejudices of Zionist enablers.
Kidnappers for Peace
28 Dec 2005
Armed men snatch three Britons – a woman, man and child – in Egyptian Sinai and carry them by force through the Rafah crossing into the Gaza Strip

December 28, 2005, 5:29 PM (GMT+02:00)

According to one report, the abductors are members of the Palestinian Popular Resistance Committees who recently threatened to "cleanse" the crossing terminal. Last week, the British Foreign Office warned citizens not to enter the Gaza Strip for any reason for fear of kidnapping or other forms of terror.
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
28 Dec 2005
Would you also paint the molotov cocktails Jews of the warsaw ghetto tossed at Nazis in the same obtuse colors???
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
28 Dec 2005
" Would you also paint the molotov cocktails Jews"

You don't paint them, you drink them.

The MazelTov Cocktail:
Take Shapiro's Malaga Wine
Add a schpritz of seltzer
Enjoy!!
I hear anti-psychotic medicines work wonders on bigotry.
28 Dec 2005
You racists on both sides of the Israel/Palestine wall should consider a new study which indicates that extreme bigotry can be treated with anti-psychotic meds.
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
28 Dec 2005
Hey folks... As a Boston IndyMedia Editor I just want to step in and let people know that there have been some pretty disruptive and bigoted posts on this article. I would like to remind people that folks posting to this article, and to responses to this article, should consider all sides of the story and refrain from racist and bigoted comments. Articles that display racist or bigoted content will continue to be hidden as disruptive and biased - this especially includes generalized violent comments aimed at either Jewish, Israeli or Palestinian peoples.

Simply put, please keep it civil on our website! Thanks!
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
28 Dec 2005
I think Zionists and thier enablers scapegoating the Zionist's chosen victims for the hostilities created by the Zionist's chosen war of conquest to be very bigoted. But you left those posts up.

I also think the sick jokes need to go.

If Zionists really do have thier alleged birthright of murderous theft of Palestinian lands, then lets hear it. Otherwise, more scapegoating of the Zionist's chosen victims is all we are going to see from the pro-Zionist sect. And we can see all the scapegoating we want by finding some old Nazi propaganda.
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
28 Dec 2005
See what I mean? Zionist enablers make sick jokes and scapegoat the Palestinian victims of Zionism's offenses.

Well, Palestinians would not need bombs to liberate thier homeland if murderous thieving Zionists would end thier bloodsoaked crusade, get out of Palestine and never torment the Palestinians again.

Wow, what a shocker? Murderous thieving Zionist crusaders hate the Palestinian freedom fighter's bombs as much as Nazis hated the molotov cocktails Jews of the warsaw ghetto tossed at nazis. And like the Nazis who used the molotov cocktail attacks to rationalize murdering even more of thier chosen victims, Zionists also use the Palestinian freedom fighter's bombs to rationalize murdering even more Palestinians. Even dropping 2000 pound bombs on apartment buildings to kill 1 alleged freedom fighter. Who couldn't see that one comming.

[Editor's note: this post starts with a reference to a now hidden post that was sarcastic, violent and generally disuptive.]
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
28 Dec 2005
The three kidnapped Britons were seized in Rafah Wednesday by Fatah-al Aqsa gunmen as human shields to thwart Israel’s north Gazan no-go zone

December 28, 2005, 10:47 PM (GMT+02:00)

Kate Burton, 25, a human rights worker at the Gaza-based al-Mizan organization was with her parents when they were hijacked. Our sources report that their Palestinian kidnappers intend to place them in the no-go zone which went into effect in northern Gaza at 6 p.m. local time Wednesday. Their presence is meant to curb IDF aerial and artillery attacks fire on the Qassam launching sites. Palestinian security roadblocks were set up on Gazan roads to try and rescue the captured family before they reach the north.

The foreign office in London confirms the abductions and repeats its warnings to all Britons to refrain from entering the Gaza Strip for any reason.
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
29 Dec 2005
And is that a reason to deny the other 99.99999% of the Palestinians thier basic human right NOT to be destroyed by murderous thieving ZIonist crusaders?

OR, are you just pushing tribalistic hate???
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
29 Dec 2005
W Bank suicide blast kills three
A wounded soldier is carried into the hospital in the central Israel town of Kfar Saba
Security officials have warned of an increase in suicide bombings
A Palestinian suicide bomber has killed two Palestinians and an Israeli soldier at checkpoint in the West Bank, the Israeli army has said.

The bomber was travelling in a minibus taxi and blew himself up when he was ordered out at a temporary checkpoint near the northern town of Tulkarm.

Israel's army said it had set up the roadblock after intelligence suggested a suicide bombing was being planned.

Israel has said an Islamic Jihad militant was behind the explosion.
Everyone is wrong
29 Dec 2005
Why does one side have to be right? Most sides in this argument are wrong. Certainly the terrorists on the one side and the IDF on the other are both wrong and their arguments of fighting for liberation or security are equivelent. The British were wrong for promising so little land to so many competing interests. The UN was wrong in thinking two mutually antagonistic states could coexist in the sliver of land left after Britan granted Jordainian independence out of the "original" protectorate of palestine, and I do want to know what they were smoking when they drew the borders...

Then there's the other world governments and their opportunistic support of militerism on one side or the other to seem "tough" at home without getting their hands too dirty. The US is of course the worst offender being so far away and having so much money and weapons to throw into the fray, but the Arab nation support of the PLO and friends isn't much better.

All that's left is a small group of peace activists on either side who can't be heard over the bombs, and if for a second they are some one quickly says "but listen to the bombs". The only public official I can recall saying anything sane about the situation was Qaadafi of all people who pointed out the impossibility of stable Palestianian and Israeli states and suggested a combined secular state, which noone could hear over the bombs and was quickly forgotten...

It's a mess all around. The Israeli government has more culpability since it is a sovereign government rather than an occupied territory, but some how this simply legitimizes their terrorism as it is "millitary" or "police" action.

If the US and the international community were poring Billions on the peace activists instead of the bomb throwers (on all sides) perhaps things would move away from violence?
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
29 Dec 2005
Palestinians didn't choose to be the victims of Zionist invadors. And the tiny fraction of a percent of Palestinians fighting back action's stem from the extream duress of Zionist offenses.

How dare you scapegoat Palestinians?
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
29 Dec 2005
Do you also think Czech freedom fighters share the blame for the hostilities created by the Nazis murderous theft of Czech lands??? Is there ANYONE who thinks the Czech freedom fighters should be blamed for the destruction in Lidice???
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
29 Dec 2005
And, You shouldn't blame the Czech freedom fighters (who were fighting against Hitler and his Arab allies) for this either.
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Concern for captured Gaza Britons
Kate Burton, picture courtesy of al-Mezan Centre
Kate Burton was working with a human rights group
The family of a British human rights worker kidnapped with her parents in Gaza have expressed their deep concern.

Kate Burton's family described her as "a warm and loving person" who works as a volunteer in the Middle East.

It is not clear who on Wednesday abducted the 24-year-old and her parents, Hugh and Helen, in Rafah.

Palestinian authorities have stepped up work to find them,
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
29 Dec 2005
It is fine with me if people wish to scapegoat Palestinians for FAILING to go quietly into this good night. It is just ANOTHER oportunity for me to expose thier prejudices.

Rage!
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli really pissed off those crazy zionistsWall Demo Report Back
30 Dec 2005
Keep up the great work!! I don't know what group you're in or if you're independent activists fighting for Palestinian rights,I'm glad you have the courage to stand up and face those angry and irrational zionist idiots.Your scaring them and shaming them in public and they're not used to this treatment in the USA.The tide is turning against the zionist racist hatred of Arabs.There are so many anti-zionist groups and websites now.Americans need to know the truth and you're educating them.The web ifamericansknew.org is a very informative site.After I started to do research on zionism and Israel I've changed sides and so have my family and friends.Most American Jews don't want to know about Israel and don't care.But once you tell them about zionism and the websites.They can't remain neutral anymore.Iam so glad you're in their faces and educating Americans.
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
31 Dec 2005
In just a few short years. the internet has destoyed a hundred years of Zionist lies monopolizing public "understanding" of the Zionist's bloodsoaked crusade. That sure shows how strong truth can be.

Zionists and thier enablers are now saying it is the Palestinian propagandist's tactics that are making the truth so powerfull. Having a BA in PR, I know how that is crap. 3 things determine success of PR. They are : tactics, access, and substance.

Since 2002, Palestinian rants have been non-existant in the media, so tactics can NOT be the reason the pro-palestinian PR is so powerful. That leaves ONLY substance as the reason Palestinian PR would leave any impreasion on anybody.

Truth has an eternal shelf life, while lies start to stink the moment they are spoken/writen. But depending on the direction of the wind, you might not notice the stench. Once truth shows up to still the winds, the stench of the lies become apparent to ALL, especialy to those spreading the lies. So then they resort to attacking the messanger, like saying it is the Palestinian's PR tactics that has destroyed the ZIonist's lies.
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
31 Dec 2005
" In just a few short years. the internet has destoyed a hundred years of Zionist"

LOL!!!! What an idiot the troll is...
shouldn't that be "millions" of years?
If it wasn't for the bloodsoaked thieving of palestinian landm, the Dinosaurs would still be with us, and they would help the peaceful cheesemaking, goatherding pastoral people of peaceful palestine make more bombs for peace and attack the ZIONISTS!!!!
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
03 Jan 2006
Sorry this was late to be centered. We're back from the holidays now. ;)
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
10 Jan 2006
It is good that people want to be politically active. However to say something like 'Anti-Isreal' is as vial as saying 'Anti-Black' or 'Anti-Palestinian'

If you say 'Anti-zionist' then that's not so bad.
If you say 'Anti-Lukid' then that's also not so bad.
Just as if you say 'Anti-Hamas' or 'Anti Wahabbi'.

Why, because this is about ideas and ideology and not about genetic or ethnic identity.

So, please, if you want support from moderate middle-of-the-road people then you must stop holding 'Anti-Isreal Rally'. How repulsive.

Isreal original meant 'the people of God'. Translated to Muslim terms that would be 'the people of Allah' because most Westerners think of Allah as being the same as God. (Different word, different Language).

So when you say 'Anti-Isreal rally' it translates to 'Anti-People of God'. Which translates to 'Anti-People of Allah' and then, because Muslims are the people of Allah then we can translate it further to 'Anti-Allah'

Is that what you mean? Because God loves all people not just Muslims. When the Koran talks about infidels it is not meaning Christians or Jews. Christian and Jews, both groups, are people of God, or people of Allah.

So please hold an 'anti-lukid' rally. Or maybe discuss how Zionism translated into inequality for non-Jews in The Levant. But please do be a hater or one who believes that a people, a country, needs to be destroyed. What needs to be destroyed in the racism and bigotory of all people. Killing is not murder, but enlightenment in that case becvause you are killing your falacies of thought, the ideas that hold you from being a real person of God.

Isreal isn't going to go away. There will always be 'People of God', be they Jews, Muslims, Christians or whatever. And when you preach showering of coals on someone else's head then you ought to know that very soon the same thing you ask for the other may very well be put upon you.

I hope not. I hope that when you wish hate on others that the same hate doesn't come back to you. However, that is not how it works. So stop hating others and you will then not be in such a bad state of mind. Only when you admit that Jews are mostly good (just as any people or nation is) and that they can change and live in peace with you will you realize the true love of God.

And so 'your enemy' is the spirit of evil that rests in the thoughts of another. And you kill those evil thoughts through enlightenment and education and love. And the living, breathing, person now has new thoughts that aren't evil. Do that and stop hatemongering and maybe then you will get the nation that you so deserve. Until you do that you will not get your nation.

Jewish people are very loving to people who they do not feel threatened by. And so why, when you say you are 'Anti' them do you expect them to give you the sovernty that you say you deserve.

Stop your hating and the Isrealis will stop giving you back the same hate.
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
12 Jan 2006
Israel has the military ability to annihilate every Palestianian man, woman, and child, yet they choose not to.

Suppose that Hamas was given the means to "wipe Israel off the map". Do you think they would hesitate for a minute?
Support the SatanFest in Mecca!
12 Jan 2006
Hundreds killed in Hajj stampede

Ambulance at stampede scene

Latest pictures
At least 345 Muslim pilgrims have been killed in a crush in the stone-throwing ritual during the Hajj pilgrimage in Saudi Arabia, officials say.

Hundreds of people have also been injured. A BBC correspondent at the scene in Mina saw dozens of bodies lined up on the ground.

The ritual has been marred by deadly stampedes in the past.

After a crush in 2004, the authorities built barriers and deployed thousands of stewards in a bid to improve safety.
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
13 Jan 2006
Good for you! I am in Palestine now and the treatment I have witnessed of the Palestinian people is despicable. Anything that is done in the name of tearing doiwn the wall which seperates families, people from their jobs and all but stops freedom of movement is positive!
ANTI SEMITE WALL SUPPORTED BY NAZIS
15 Jan 2006
The NAZI Party which supported the efforts of an anti Isreal wall joined forces with protestors who ahve called for the extermination of Jews. Nazis' al quaeda supporters and liberal democrats continued to shout anti semitic hate and supported the end of Jews in the Middle East
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
17 Jan 2006
Directed to almost everyone...


I think it is exceptionally important to raise a few issues for examination.

First, I really don't think that it is appropriate to bring up Nazi Germany anywhere in this discourse. The creation of Isreal was started long before that- that just gave the Jews sympathy from the "great powers" to back its creation.

Second, isn't it quite possible that the Jews were being taken advantage of by those very "great powers" who sought to help them advance the making of a state? I mean seriously, we knew very well since WWII that the Persian Gulf had a great plethora of oil... Knowing this-knowing that oil was going to be (and proved to be) the life blood of the new economy. We needed a way into the area. Think- President Roosevelt met with who? It was a Prince from the House of Saud who we then solidified our ever-lasting support of.

I suppose I am just saying that it seems very likely that the creation of Isreal did indeed have to do with the flouting of political clout by the "great powers."
If this is true, which- (well check out the history of the area for yourself and by all means prove me wrong)- It seems that these people who had just undergone a terrible- horrible- experience were being taken advantage of. At this point they are very vulnerable- and VERY defensive, so what better then for the "great powers" to grant them land.... Of Course they are going to take it.

All and all- it seems that there is something bigger at play and that Isreal- not the people- but the leadership has been a puppet to the "great powers" for some time.

Another thing, when the state is created these people are so defensive that they lash out on all sides, being terribly brutal in the name of obtaining a state. The Palestinians fight back- it's a natural reaction.... Furthermore....If an animal is beaten it's whole life does it mean it's a bad animal if it bites someone- no, it just means that it was beaten it's whole life. We are all animals,

There is a reason that everyone acts the way they do- Isreal is not evil- the Palestinians are not evil... They are just people.

I guess the best way to approach this quagmire is understanding. Understanding that violence should be denounced- but just understanding why this problem exists and where it has progressed to and why- that is the only way it will ever be solved.
Scorpion and Turtle
17 Jan 2006
"The Palestinians fight back- it's a natural reaction."

It's natural for Palestinians to blow up school buses and restaurants. How dare those JEWS try to protect their citizens form palestinians who are only doing what comes naturally...
Israel withdraws from gaza, and by nature palestinians continue to fire missles at Israel.
The Scorpion asked the turtle for a ride across the river. Halfway across, the Scorpion stings the turtle. Why did you do that? Now neither of us will reach the other side, asks the turtle>
It's my nature says the Scorpion, what else did you expect?
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
17 Jan 2006
Scorpion and Turtle
by Nature of Monsters


"The Jews fight back- it's a natural reaction."

It's natural for Jews to blow up school buses and restaurants. How dare those people from Palestine try to protect their citizens from Jews who are only doing what comes naturally...

People from Palestine withdraw from most of thier land, and by nature Jews continue to fire missles at Palestine.

The Scorpion asked the turtle for a ride across the river. Halfway across, the Scorpion stings the turtle. Why did you do that? Now neither of us will reach the other side, asks the turtle

It's my nature says the Scorpion, what else did you expect?
Tragic...
18 Jan 2006
Reading these comments reminds me of why there will never be peace in the Middle East.
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
18 Jan 2006
hey
thanks a lot for boston activists we in palestine really apreciate the activites of boston people i just wanna mention one point just if you wanna look for more videos see
http://www.stopthewall.org.il/video
some videos that i made from diffrent places which is all about the nonviolent resistance to the israeli military illegal occupation to palestine...
lets have one slogan
end the occupation of palestine now
stop the aparthied system in palestine
keep up the good work you doing folks.
hope to see you soon.
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
18 Jan 2006
hey
thanks a lot for boston activists we in palestine really apreciate the activites of boston people i just wanna mention one point just if you wanna look for more videos see
http://www.stopthewall.org.il/video
some videos that i made from diffrent places which is all about the nonviolent resistance to the israeli military illegal occupation to palestine...
lets have one slogan
end the occupation of palestine now
stop the aparthied system in palestine
keep up the good work you doing folks.
hope to see you soon.
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
18 Jan 2006
"anarchist"

Anarchist would like to see more Jews blown up. The Security Barrier has been quite effective in keeping suicide bombers out.
If anything, the "wall" should be built higher and stronger until the palestinians decide that peace is better than murder.
Thailand is building an APARTHEID WALL, Saudi Arabia Is building one too! The World's longet Apartheid Walll is in Cyprus. The common factor? moslems next door wish to slaughter citizens on the other side of the Apartheid Walls...
Another Palestinian Peace Activist Killed
19 Jan 2006
More reason to tear down the Apartheid Wall it is a ROADBLOCK to Peace!

Suicide bomber attack in Tel Aviv
Emergency workers
Police say the dead person is the bomber
One person has died and at least 10 have been injured in a suicide bomb attack in the Israeli city of Tel Aviv.

Police at the scene of the blast - a pedestrian shopping centre, near a bus station - have said that the only fatality was the bomber.
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
25 Jan 2006
Islam will rule the world.
Constitution for the new Islamic Republic of USA is under construction.


We will fight infidel to death.
Meanwhile, American laws will protect us.
Democrats and Leftist will support us.
UNO will legitimize us.
CAIR will incubate us.
ACLU will empower us.
Western Universities will shelter us.
Hollywood will love us.

Our children will immigrate from Pakistan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Indonesia and even from India to the US for education in full scholarship. America is paying and will continue to pay for our children’s educations and their upbringing in state funded Islamic schools.

We will use your welfare system. Our children will also send money home while they are preparing for Jihad.

We will take advantage of American kindness, gullibility, and compassion. When time comes we will stab them in the back to death. We will say one thing on the camera and teach another thing to our children at home. We will teach our children Islamic value from the very childhood. We will teach them not to compromise with Infidel. Once we do that from the very early age our children won’t hesitate to be martyr. We will take over the Europe first and then US. We already have a solid ground in the UK, Holland, Sweden, Spain, Italy, Germany, and US.

Our children will marry Caucasian in Europe and in America. We will mixed with intricate fabric of the Western society but still will remember to Jihad when times come. We are called “sleeper cells”. We will raise our children to be loyal to Islam and Mohammad.

At the time of the real fight we will hold our own children as our armor. When American or Israeli troops shoot at us the world will be watching. Imagine,… Imagine the news in the world /. Death of Muslim babies by infidels.

We know CNN, ABC, CBS are broadcasting live. Al-Jazeera will pour gasoline on the fire. The news will spread like wild fire. “Americans killed 6 babies, 10 babies”. “Jews killed two women”,

Visualize the news flash all over the world, …Moslem mother is sobbing, ….crying. ….Her babies are killed by Jews and Americans, the whole world is watching live. Hundrends of millions of Muslims all around the world are boiling. They will march through Europe. We will use our women to produce more babies who will in turn be used as armor/shield. Our babies are the gift from Allah for Jihad.

West manufactures their tanks in the factory. We will manufacture our military force by natural means, by producing more babies. That is the way it is cheaper.

You infidels at this site cannot defeat us. We are 1.2 billion. We will double again. Do you have enough bullets to kill us?

On the camera:
We will always say, “Islam is the religion of Piece.”
We will say, “Jihad is actually inner Jihad.”
There will be more 911 in Europe and in America.
We will say, “We do not support terrorism but America got what it deserved.”

Muslims, CAIR, ISNA and other international Islamic Organization will unite. We will partner with Leftist, ACLU, with Koffi Annan, and the UN, and if we have to then even with France. Fasten your seatbelt, war of civilizations has just begun.

We will use your own values of Kindness against you.

You are destined to loose.

Must be very depressing for you. Isn’t it?

Allah-hu-Akbar.
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
25 Jan 2006
(No verified email address) 25 Jan 2006

Israel will rule the world.
Constitution for the new Israeli owned Republic of USA is under construction.


We will fight Justice to death.

Meanwhile, American laws will protect us.
Democrats and Leftist will support us.
UN will legitimize us.
Pentagon will incubate us.
AIPAC will empower us.
Western Universities will shelter us.
Hollywood will love us.

Our children will immigrate from Russia, Ukraine, and Argentina and even from Israel to the US for education in full scholarship. America is paying and will continue to pay for our children’s educations and their upbringing in state funded Israeli schools.

We will use your defense system. Our children will also send our money home while they are preparing for the Israeli army.

We will take advantage of American kindness, gullibility, and compassion. When time comes we will stab them in the back to death. We will say one thing on the camera and teach another thing to our children at jewish schools. We will teach our children Isreali values from the very childhood. We will teach them not to compromise with the what is right. Once we do that from the very early age our children won’t hesitate to be Mossad. We will take over the Europe first and then US. We already have a solid ground in the UK, Holland, Sweden, Spain, Italy, Germany, and US.

Our children will marry only Jews in Europe and in America. We will mixed with intricate fabric of the Western society but still will remember to go to temple when times come. We are called “Zionists”. We will raise our children to be loyal to Israel and Sharon.

At the time of the real fight we will hold our own children as our armor. When American or arab troops shoot at us the world will be watching. Imagine,… Imagine the news in the world /. Death of Jewish babies by militants.

We know CNN, ABC, CBS are broadcasting live. fox news will pour gasoline on the fire. The news will spread like wild fire. “Arabs killed 6 babies, 10 babies”. “Jews killed two women”,

Visualize the news flash all over the world, …jewish mother is sobbing, ….crying. ….Her babies are killed by resistance, the whole world is watching live. Hundrends of millions of Jews all around the world are boiling. They will march through Europe. We will use our women to produce more babies who will in turn be used as tank drivers and apache pilots. Our babies are the gift from G-d for the State of Israel.

West manufactures their tanks in the factory. We will manufacture our military force by natural means, by stealing theirs. That is the way it is cheaper.

You goyem at this site cannot defeat us. We are 120 billioniares. We will double our money again. Do you have enough protesters to stop us?

On the camera:
We will always say, “Israel wants peace.”
We will say, “Israeli agression is actually security.”
There will be more 911 in Europe and in America.
We will say, “We do not support terrorism as far as you know but America got what it deserved on 911.”

Muslims, CAIR, ISNA and other international Islamic Organization will unite.

We will partner with Leftist, ACLU, with Koffi Annan, and the UN, and if we have to then even with France. Fasten your seatbelt, war for Israelis has just begun.

We will use your own values of social justice against you.

You are destined to loose.

Must be very depressing for you. Isn’t it?
Shalom.
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
30 Jan 2006
I had the pleasure of attending a meeting at SF State sponsored by the Palestinian Students Union. The guest speaker was H Rap Bronw. in attendence was every muslim student at SFSU, meaning Iranian, Egyptian, Nigerian (a few) , Indian, Palestinian , etc. Sunni and Shia. Within 5 minutes of the meeting beginning Mr. Brown had worked up all the attendees to a rousing blood curdling shout of "DEATH TO THE JEWS!" Spray was flying out of the mouths of the students as they pounded their fists on the desks and their teeth were barred like vampired. It really looked like a case of mass infection by rabies. Eyes were glazed. It took a good additional five minutes for the mob to stop their shaking. This is a typical muslim meeting on a north
American college campus. So posters here p,lease stop the BS about the peace loving tolerant Muslims. Islam is all about murder and the election of Hamas proves it.
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
30 Jan 2006
Was it in fact "Death to Israel", which often gets reported by ZIonist enablers as people saying "death to the Jews".

Even if it was "Death to the Jews", that wouldn't mean Zionists are anything other than murderous thieves of Palestinian lands OR that it would be wrong to liberate Palestine, even if interloaper power brokers have given Zionists thier blessisngs for the Zionists to be murderous thieves of palestinian lands like the Pope giving allegedly Christian crusaders thier blessings (and absolution) to be murderous thieves of palestine.

When world war 2 was waging, there were many people saying that ALL Germans should be killed. "They started the last war too." Does the fact that some assholes, even Democrats and Republicans who were NOT occupied by murderous thieving Nazis, saying that ALL Germans should be killed mean that it was an OFFENSE to liberate Europeans occupied by murderous thieving Nazis??? I don't see how, even if you apply the same standards to people calling for the liberation of palestine/death of the ZIonist crusader state.

But your bullshit double standards are just an offensive rant against people who say Zionists don't have ANY birthright of murderous theft of ANY portion of the Palestinian's homeland, aren't they??? You really showcased your prejudices on that one, didn't you??? What is it like to be outed as such a prejudiced piece of shit?
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
30 Jan 2006
"Even if it was "Death to the Jews","

Ahhh the voice of the Liberal Progressive....shame on you
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
30 Jan 2006
http://www.eastbayexpress.com/issues/2004-05-19/feature.html
This kind of trash is enough to turn a Liberal into a Conservative. It does absolutley nothing to help the cause but rather hurts it
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
30 Jan 2006
Why Shame on me when you run away from the point I made?

Shame on you for running away from what I wrote. Don't you have any balls, bill.

And what "this kind of trash" do you refer to. Is it when I pointed out durring world war 2, that some assholes saying that all germans should be killed doesn't mean it was wrong to drive Nazis out of Nazi occupied European lands??? Be specific in your insults or continue looking flacid and void of substance. Not that I mind you looking so pathetic.

And what is the "cause" as you see it? This sould be either vey interesting or as vacant as your last post.
Re: Saturdays Boston Common Anti Israeli Wall Demo Report Back
15 Jun 2006
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