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Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
21 Mar 2006
On Monday morning, March 20, at around 11:00am, 10 protesters gathered outside the Northeastern University Reserve Officer Training Corps (ROTC) office on Huntington Avenue to protest the third anniversary of the invasion of Iraq. "We wanted to make sure nobody forgets that both Iraqi civilians and American soldiers are dying everyday," said one protester. The protesters used colorful chalk to transform the sidewalk into a collage of messages such as "100,000 Dead for what?", "Military recruiters out of our schools," "Death zone," and "Recruiting the poor to die for the rich." Protesters also drew chalk body outlines to represent the dead, both Iraqi and American.
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After Northeastern, the protestors went to the Boston University (BU) ROTC, where the same tactics were employed. On the way to the MIT ROTC, the protesters were accosted on their bikes in the middle of the Massachusetts Avenue bridge by two police officers in an unmarked car. One officer, who refused to identify himself, grabbed one of the protesters firmly on the wrist. The officers accused the protesters of spray-painting inside the BU College of Arts and Sciences building. When the protesters asked if they were being detained, the officers said yes and then demanded to see identification. After 20 minutes of harassment, during which another car and two more cops showed up, the officers left. The protesters continued on to the MIT ROTC and Tremont Street Armed Forces Recruitment Center to continue their demonstrations.

During the festivities, protesters talked to passersby about their feelings on the continuing war. Some stopped and talked, others watched and applauded the efforts of the demonstrators, and some walked by, unconcerned. "It was heartening to see how many people opposed the war and the presence of military in institutions of education," said another protestor. This was a part of the Operation: Over campaign of direct action against the war.
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Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
20 Mar 2006
very creative! Great job!
Keep up the good work.

Tony Van Der Meer
Bravo!
21 Mar 2006
Great job!
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
21 Mar 2006
Not a bad idea with the caution tape, but defacing the memorial is kinda bullshit and offensive. Being a vet a take a personal offense to it. By doing that, you can longer spew the message that" we support the troops, but are against the war ( as am I in this particular case)."

Anyway, I don't expect a bunch CSW and BU students to grasp the concept of what is it to serve, and as with Roman Empire, when the pivilaged class ( of which the students at BU and CSW, whether they like it or not, are part of) no longer has to serve, it signals the beginning of the decline of a society. Actually, being in decline is more accurate, because this started in the Viet Nam era ( with the parents of the current BU and CSW students).... Hopefully, such situations are not reversable.... BTW, I've stated this on IMC before, but I'll say it again, I'm in process pursuing my grad degree @ BU, so I have first hand knowledge of the nonsense and whining that goes on on this campus.
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
21 Mar 2006
if you're so fucking proud to be part of the imperial armed forces, i have an idea for you. how about you get a tattoo of every single country the US has intervened in and committed war crimes. i would wager you couldn't do it, seeing as how there are too many to fit on your body.
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
21 Mar 2006
i wasn't there, but the memorial was "defaced" with chalk, which washes off with water.
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
21 Mar 2006
Wes, don't be a crybaby.
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
21 Mar 2006
I'm not being a crybaby, just expressing a viewpoint. Micah, if it's OK to deface something with chalk "because it washes off", then is it OK if some nazi-assholes use chalk to put swatstikas on a Synaguoge?...As far as m(a)tt's comments go, grow up ! This country has some major problems, but when you've visited other places, you realize that it could be alot worse.
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
21 Mar 2006
i think a lot of people confuse supporting troops with supporting the military, or recruiters, or ROTC. BU shouldn't have an ROTC, no institution of education should. and while it's fine to remember soldiers, it's not ok to pretend that their role in the military-industrial complex "kept our country free". people fighting for civil rights, draft dodgers, privacy advocates, the national lawyers guild, earth first!ers, SOA watch, human rights groups, people who take on police brutality campaigns, people who fight rape and domestic violence- those are the people keeping our country free, and they need as much support as they can get because they're rapidly losing. not the militiary.

and the quote at the bottom of that plaque is incredible offensive, especially to those who only volunteered to "sacrifice" because of coersion, economic and otherwise.
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
21 Mar 2006
Wes,

so, if i disagree with you, then i must be immature? if you think the rest of the world is so bad, you should thank your fucking comrades in uniform. the reason the world is so effed up is because the US has politically, economically and militarily fucked it up. try reading a history book besides that propaganda they fed you in high school (and probably college, if the military didnt reneg on their promise of "100% Free tuition!")
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
21 Mar 2006
an enlisted man gets eight and one-half years for intimidation, but, an officer gets a reprimand for murder. good enough reason to resist the military-industrial government!
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
21 Mar 2006
pathetic, Inhibiting others rights for your own agenda and tagging as well .. see you in court someday.
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
21 Mar 2006
Good job, Operation: Over!
Keep up the good work, and keep up the pressure.

...And using chalk shows amazing restraint.
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
21 Mar 2006
i was there. and today i continued my very own "business as usual" by going to class at BU. on my way, i was stalked and harrassed by those very same officers (the ones who aren't in uniform). they followed me about 4 blocks, shouting my name, and taking pictures of me. they kept threatening me, and when i confronted them with a pen and paper and requested their names, badge numbers, and ranks - they just maintained that they were "photographers taking pictures of the beautiful day."

no doubt i risk expulsion - but that's fine. i'm so fed up with the situation of the world right now, their threats mean nothing to me. i, as well as everyone else involved in this particular action, are currently in the process of filing complaints with the BU police as well as with internal affairs of the boston police.

thanks for the support everyone!
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
22 Mar 2006
i was there and i take offense to the assumption that only BU students were participating... also, that the sacrifices of soldiers are any more or less sacred than the sacrifices american citizens, especially the poor, make every day. this war is having an effect on the whole country, except those who can economically afford to ignore it...

join the people's army if you need an army to sacrifice for...the revolution needs you.
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
22 Mar 2006
nice work you all, and thanks for keeping up the pressure on all fronts. damn do you get any time to do schoolwork? ;)
for the offended people, this is not just some fun activity that a few privileged college kids are doing between bong hits. it's a statement by people with privileges over almost all other people on the planet against the system which is responsible for their privilege. that's a damn powerful statement, and we'll only be free of the system's yoke when the privileged people living in the us get their shit together. for real, even the poor people have privileges here that don't exist in most other places.

that goes to back up what the vet said- we have a very high standard of living here and access to things people elsewhere can only dream about (and do, with hollywood's help). if we are serious about changing the status quo in the world and steering this sinking ship into safe waters (sorry for the poor metaphor) we'll have to soon begin for the sacrifices that inevitably will result. revolution means it's going to get a lot less easy to get by than it has been. it will take a painful and protracted struggle, and maybe civil war as the capitalist machine goes into self-preservation mode. but that is only a possible scenario- maybe we can avoid it by building serious alternative institutions to make the transition easier when the time comes.
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
22 Mar 2006
to 'not so anonymous' :
no way in hell you should be accepting the threat of expulsion for this and related actions. there is a long history of campus activism, often much more combative and disruptive, which has been shown to be protected speech. if there is any attempt to persecute you for this or similar actions, i'd suggest you take it up with the aclu or similar group, or at least let people know about it in the scene who can help out. challenging this wehrmacht is not just right, it's the goddamn civic duty of all thinking people.
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
22 Mar 2006
M(a)tt have you been to college ? Have you been in the military? Are you old enough to have done either? Have you been to other countries ? I was refering to you being immature by the content of your post. Just like MLK said, I was judging you by "the content of your character".....And I didn't say that it was only BU students, I believe I included the CSW.

As much as I agree with people dissenting against the war in Iraq, let's face it, the 60's and early 70's are gone. With no military draft, "the war" isn't affecting a large portion of the population ( less than 1% of the population is in the military), so we're not going to get large numbers at our marches. Unfortunately, most Americans are fat and happy, they have gas for their SUV's and warm houses in the winter.Enough said.
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
22 Mar 2006
shell -
powerfull words - thanks! and you are totally right about privileged people becoming conscious about that position and then deciding to fight back - because that's what it is all about. and as soon as enough priveleged people are affected (and they will be), or rather, as soon as it gets serious enough to where they all realize that they are affected - there will be some major changes that have to occur.

and no, i don't have time for schoolwork. :)

no way - you are right. we are fighting back, and today i am going to a lot of professors and the dean of students with copies of my legal written statement...the plan is to alert the academic sector of bu what is going on and what types of things their employers are doing. and the worst (best thing for us!) thing about this is that those guys that are taking pictures, harassing, and stalking are in normal clothes and refusing to identify themselves - we don't even know if they are officers! so that works great for us...so next time i see those guys i just have to call 911 or something.
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
22 Mar 2006
You're doing an AWESOME job guys... Don't let the state intimidate you, we're here with ya.

Went to see V for Vendetta last night... DAMN! It pumped me up!! We gotta follow Operation:Over's example and do something, now. It's all about taking over their symbols! Those who rule the language... well, you know what I mean.
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
22 Mar 2006
" BU shouldn't have an ROTC, no institution of education should." Hhhmmm, I thought that the purpose of a university education was that all viewpoints be allowed to be discussed and debated. At least that's the way it was when I was earning my Master's. However, with your thinking, if you call it thinking, is that free speech is alright only if it agrees with your veiwpoint. Micah...you're a hippocritical idiot.

Wes, you right on the money when you said " then is it OK if some nazi-assholes use chalk to put swatstikas on a Synaguoge", well said.
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
22 Mar 2006
Read the graphic novel. The movie is really watered down. Check out www.aforanarchy.org
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
22 Mar 2006
having an ROTC isn't "discussing and debating viewpoints." universities shouldn't have sweatshops either, or concentration camps, or bioterrorism labs. ROTC isn't about free speech or about promoting a viewpoint as much as it's about recruiting and preparing people for the military, which is something that doesn't belong in schools.
Micah,
22 Mar 2006
Universities don't HAVE to have ROTC recruitment on campus.

All they have to do is give up the free federal money they receive along with the ROTC presence.

It's that simple.
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
22 Mar 2006
How is free federal money different than other federal money, and how is money attached to a quid pro quo of giving up student info free?
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
22 Mar 2006
yall should look at the comments to this article on the operation: over website. they're much more interesting. http://operationover.freeyouth.net/article/57
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
23 Mar 2006
those ARE interesting comments...
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
23 Mar 2006
Yes they are. Majority of them are right on the money!
Brad,
23 Mar 2006
Do you really expect me to respond to that utterly lame attempt to form a contradiction?

Stop accepting the federal money, and you can tell the recruiters to go away.

There is nothing complicated about that arrangement. There is nothing philosophical or mataphysical to parse about the word "free."

Stop taking the *money*, and you can have the recruiters leave the campus.

One goes with the other.

Otherwise put, It is a package deal.

Quit complaining about the eye pain and take the spoon OUT of the glass.
Yes, Flipside, it's the students accepting the ROTC money
23 Mar 2006
Not the university. The students. ROTC approached the students you see demonstrating and said, "Would you like some federal money?"

The students said, "SURE, Hurff Durff we love the monies..."

ROTC responded, "Great, now we can recruit!"

Students, "WTF?!! We're keeping the monies get outta here with the recruiting."

ROTC *cries*
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
24 Mar 2006
operation: over is having a benefit show friday night at 7pm at 45 mt auburn street. please come and support our actions! the money will go towards finishing paying off the travel expenses of direct action trainers, as well as towards more trainings, and towards gear that we need for more actions such as banners and paint and a lot of other stuff. so please come and support us!
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
24 Mar 2006
I am glad that you agree flip. The money is not *free* as you first implied, but tied to the recruiters. I think the students protesting are saying the exact thing you are, give up the money and kick the recruiters out.

It is not really as simple as you imply, the students have to protest and influence the admin into refusing the money/recruiters, they cannot simply just refuse the money individually.

So your spoon in the eye analogy is sort of lame (to use your term). Unless you contrive it by adding that it is others who placed the spoon there and who have the power to remove it.
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
24 Mar 2006
A Mental Game:

1) If the students stop using the ROTC program will ROTC go away? No.

2) Would students unanimously agree to forgo federal grants and loans? No.

3) If students unanimously agreed to forgo grants and loans would universities lower tuition? No.

4) If universities lost ROTC would they squeeze the revenue out of Freshmen? Yes.

5) Would universities prefer to get federal money, skim out of federal student loans, and squeeze students? Yes.

6) Will ROTC ever be eliminated from campus? No.
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
26 Mar 2006
Why the protestors don't think that the students at BC are intelligent enough to make their own decisions for their life. Also wonder how many of the protestors have a federal loan or grant. Hypocrites of the worst kind. If these students can't make their own life decisions, maybe the voting age should be raised cause it is obvious that they are too stupid to vote.
Micah
29 Mar 2006
What time is the party on saturday. Is there places to park around there?, and do we need to bring anything ?
Re: Anti-Recruitment Demonstrations Mark Third Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq
11 Apr 2006
Great Job!! keep up the good work.Anyone who joins the Military is crazy or stupid.Poor people fighting and dying for the rich who don't care about them.Imagine risking your life for $200 a week!
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