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Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
23 May 2006
Three people hung a banner reading "BC Honors Lies & Torture" during the Boston College commencement address by Condoleezza Rice.

During this morning’s Boston College commencement address by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who received an honorary degree, three people unfurled a banner reading, “BC Honors Lies & Torture.” The banner was visible for five minutes next to a Puerto Rican flag held by a different group. Campus police removed the flag and escorted the three out of the stadium.
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The three people were Caroline Arpe, a member of the Catholic Worker movement and former coordinator of BC volunteer students, Ivy Schlegel, graduate student in the BC Lynch School of Education, and Patrick Keaney, BC Arts and Sciences alumnus Class of 1990.

“I am outraged and deeply saddened by the BC’s choice of Condoleezza Rice as a commencement speaker,” said Schlegel. “Secretary Rice is part of administration that protects corporate interest and secures imperialism at the expense of human lives and dignity. By honoring Secretary Rice, the administration of Boston College affirms this illegal and immoral approach to geopolitics, rather than encouraging students to consistently advocate for social justice and struggle against global oppression. Though I respect the accomplishments of all students and honorees at graduation, I feel strongly that a truthful viewpoint be presented during Secretary Rice’s address.”

“We felt that it was important to express our disgust with Condoleezza Rice, and the people at Boston College who made the decision to bestow this dubious honor on her,” said Keaney.

“Secretary Rice is a war criminal,” said Arpe. “Honoring her makes Boston College complicit in war crimes, including torture at Guatanamo Bay, Abu Ghraib, Bagram Air Base, and numerous secret detention facilities; the use of depleted uranium and white phosphorous; the illegal invasion of Iraq resulting in the deaths of more than 2,000 American soldiers and 100,000 Iraqis.”

Photographs by Jonathan McIntosh.
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Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
22 May 2006
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Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
22 May 2006
Oh that stings. It really does. I have a better idea, losers. Win an election. Its been nearly ninety years since a real Socialist, Debs, won a substantial portion of the popular vote. How come no one votes for you losers? HUH?

The American people knew about the WMD non-lie when they re-elected George W. Bush by over 50% of the popular vote in 04.

It really is pathetic that Condi has so much POWER given to her by the People and you have Nothing.

Condi is so hot.
Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
22 May 2006
Long live the First Amendment!!
Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
22 May 2006
thanks for the heads up Matt
Its good that folks can express themselves against folks that let us down and mis represent the American People and the people of the world... sigh. How many more must die...
Good For BC Community!
22 May 2006
Condi Rice should be speaking from behind bars.
Bush & Company are walking on thin ice. When the ice gives way? They'll all face the World Court.
Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
22 May 2006
"brillantly qualified"??? How hard is it to lie to people???

You can thank your god that 28% still choose the beautiful lies over the ugly truth. And thank your god for e-voting being so easily manipulated.
Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
23 May 2006
"thank your god for evoting"-The Troll

As a pantheist I thank myself and you for George Bush, Condi Rice and Asian mosquitoes every day.
The Bush Tribunal on Torture
23 May 2006
Bush, Rice, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Negroponte: ONE TWO THREE FOUR FIVE TORTURE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME. SIX SEVEN EIGHT NINE TEN TORTURE THEM ALL AGAIN. FILL HER UP ???????"
Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
23 May 2006
Is that the professors down on the bottom picture with "not in our name" signs? I mean, just how cool is that! I don't know how Bush et al. can sleep at night...
Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
23 May 2006
It's nice to see all of the non- BC students joining in on the celebration.
Yo So Sanctimonious
23 May 2006
Bush "et al" (what are you a lawyer?) can sleep at night the same way FDR, Churchill, Truman, and Clinton(Bosnia) could sleep at night. You can question the wisdom of a battle strategy or a decision to intervene (Korea, Vietnam, Iraq). But you need a lot more than "I would do it differently" to paint them as the reicarnation of Macbeth and Lady Macbeth. Every intelligence agency in the world thought Sadaam was a threat, because of suspected WMD or simply because he was engaged in endless plots against every Arab regime in the area, as well as against Israel and Iran.

Maybe you are a pacifist. I doubt it. If you are, OK I respect your views. Violence is bad and useless. You could be right. But nearly every society allows for war in some circumstances, so you would have to condemn hundreds of nations that have engaged in war over the past 30 year.

It's just the extreme emotion, the moral condemnation, the self-righteous attitude that I find phony and quite thin. Killing Sadaam's soldiers and the vicious thugs who murder innocents and blow up Shia mosques in Iraq is not immoral. It may be unwise, inefficient in fighting terrorism, playing into Al Queda's hands, whatever. But not immoral. Get off your pulpit. I haven't heard you blast Fidel for his neocolonial wars in Africa and the tens of thousands dead Cuban he, Che and other thugs have murdered for the past 40 years only miles off the coast of Florida.

Yo So Sanctimonious
Illusory arguments of the Bushbots
23 May 2006
Bemused uses a line straight from fox news: "Every intelligence agency in the world thought Sadaam was a threat, because of suspected WMD". Wrong, completely wrong. If every nation believed he had weapons why was almost every nation supporting UN weapons inspectors? Why did others in the region state they did not believe he had WMD's? You need to check your facts chump. Nobody except the imperialist, oil dependent western nations believed he was a threat.
The Chumpanzees are our Relatives
23 May 2006
Brad, who's the chump? The Russians and French, both economic allies of Sadaam, believed he had WMD. The question you raise about the inspectors is valid: the US didn't think anything further would be found by inspectors if Sadaam didn't cooperate with them(which he didn't, by their own reports). Again, I didn't think there was a imperative to attack Iraq in 2002. I diden't buy the WMD business, and I figured if Sadaam was stupid enough to nuke someone, he'd be nuked back (like Iran would be).

All I'm saying is that you guys simply haven't shown Bush is immoral, a monster, a criminal, and all the other playground names you throw aroond.
See no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil, uh Bemused
23 May 2006
I would call breaking laws criminal. I would call lying to go to war over power and material resources immoral. I don't believe in monsters, only spoiled, power hungry little twerps that can't think for themselves.

Oh, by the way, Hans Blix has said that saddam cooperated fully with the inspections in the final round when Bush threw them out to bomb children into pieces, again check dem facts.
Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
23 May 2006
Right on Ivy. You make me proud. After we dump Rice, we dump the tollroad at Trestles!!!
Lies?
23 May 2006
No one has proved Bush "lied". That's a major point in my protest against calling people vile names when you strongly disagree with their policy choices.

Also, what the h was Sadaam hiding for 10 years when he did give the inspectors a hard time? I don't think as I said the attack on Iraq was a good idea. Nevertheless, wars are fought over resources and self-defense. That is not new. That is not immoral. Because we are addicted to oil, right or wrong, we do not want hostile powers to control access to oil. That doesn't mean the US overthrows everybody it disagrees with who pumps oil (Venezuela, Mexico, some African nations.). If you are a pacifist, fine. All war is bad, war for resources inane. But if you believe in evolution and survival of the fittest, then resource competition and in needed cases resource wars are ethical. That is, if ethics means, as it does for most on this planet for the last few million years, doing what you have to do not to hurt the members of your "tribe" or nation and protecting the nation against enemies who would deprive you of needed resources. By definition, this is moral activity.

Whether it is wise in a given factual context is another thing.
Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
23 May 2006
Brad, i think its beyond pointless to feed these trolls
Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
23 May 2006
You trolled the Commencement Ceremony, BRAD.
Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
24 May 2006
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Dump on Religion, Why Not?
24 May 2006
"Pilate Lives at BC" : great example of Left's excessive hysteria about anyone who has alternative postions. Who's Jesus in your scenario? You? Whose Pilate? BC? Who's Satan? Rice?

I mean she doesn't represent the crucifixion of God!

The left mixes metaphors. That is an indication of cognitive confusion.

If BC students put that sign together, it is a commentary on the low level of intellect of its left-leaning students.
Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
24 May 2006
I feel like there is cognitive dissonance about the "irony" of BC honoring Rice --- BC is a Jesuit school? 80% of the students (I beleive) identify as practicing Catholics. It's not a mixed metaphor. to wash one's hands, as Pontius Pilate did of the crucifixtion of Jesus, is to (attempt to) absolve oneself of any responsibility. It's not excessive hysteria to use religious imagery to protest the choice of a school that is trying to bill itself as the premier Catholic instituion of higher learning. BC is fixated on abortion, birth control or gay equality, but seems to miss the fact that one of the prime principals of Jesuit education, articulated by Father Pedro Arrupe, is that people are not to be used as instruments of profit.

The Jesuits are very clear in their opposition to this war and to torture and genocide on behalf of the US government. Catholics and Christians are of course on both sides of this debate, but the express one's views in a religious context is not excessive hysteria.
Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
24 May 2006
To answer your question, bemused, "How come no one votes for you losers? HUH?", because the votors are immoral bastards like you who think that as long as they are not the ones getting bombed everything is ok. Because the 50% or so of voters who voted for Bush are as sophisticated as the 30% or so who voted for Hitler in the 30's.
You can mock non-fascists for not having power but things go back and forth in history. There were even period when the US was not imperialistic. I don't think that they will change in 2006 or 2008; but they will eventually.
The left's lack of power has nothing to do with a lack of ideas or a lack of will; it has everything to do with a society that promotes stupidity and cuelty.
Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
24 May 2006
Comments have been made that things are cylical inhistory and perhaps the current administration's policies will be temporary. I agee, But what the Left fails to understand is that this President is not a conservative. He is a Big Governement Corporate Advocate. The American people are going to reject this model. So I agree with the socialist /marxist majority on the website. But what the marxist majority fails to comprehend is that the people are going to sweep both the liberal Clintonite and the big corporate Bushites aside. Nationalism, that is AngloSaxon Nationalism will prevail. Am I referrng only to individuals of German English heritage? No. A black person or a Jewish perosn can be a cultural AngloSaxon. A Latino can be. It is an outlook, not a racial classification. Pride in family, nation, individualism and national identity are what are involved. You leftists don't have a chance because you are fighting an enemy that doesnt exist. And you don't understand your enemy who does exist. You are in deep sh.
Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
24 May 2006
Thank you for trying. Saddened by the scarcity of visible resistence. Thank you for have ears to her and respond to the real truth of these blinding times we find ourselves . BLESSINGS OF PEACE FOR YOUR EFFORTS.
Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
25 May 2006
Well, it all went well, don't you think? I'm writng to BC to invite Michael Hayden here next commencemnt. Communications is the one area Americans still excel at.

I am just so happy that BC didn't bow to blackmail from has beens from the 60's and their late adolescent admirers who wish they could have lived in the good old days with the Berrigans and Abby Hoffman.

As someone who does not basically believe in rule by the political majorty, I want to shout out a hearty POWER TO THE PEOPLE. We did it man.
Condi came and conquered.

The Losers Lost.

Condi is so hot.
Re: Members of BC Community WIMPOUT!
25 May 2006
Trolls like Brad and Bemused should get a life!!What a waste of space.BC should be ashamed of their pathetic silent protest,that let Condi off the hook.Why didn't they at least boo and hiss loudly to try and drown out the 4 standing ovations she got from the republcan crowd.BC students are so polite,they didn't want to upset the republicans.BC trains it's students very well to become obedient corporate citizens.When the young idealists sellout to the corporate state then we will be ruled by fascism.
It takes Class to Know Class
25 May 2006
I don't care if you or others don't like Rice. I don't like everything about Rice. But your idea that people should have hissed and that being polite is bad demostrates why the radical left is marginal in the USA.

Our nation does not have aristocrats. However we do value some aristocratic values. Silence can be classy. Choosing words carefull can be classy. Booing a speaker you don't agee with is not class. It shows you don't have words to rebut the substance of her remarks. The antii-Iraq War view has many outlets for expression. She was BC's guest. Certainly you had a right to protest her and to convince BC to do otherwise. But in the end, the trustees have the "ownership" of the school. If they continue to make bad decisions, the Jesuits and the donors, as well as prospective students and faculty, will vote with their dollars and feet.
Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
26 May 2006
what's up with the Puerto Rican Flag?
Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
26 May 2006
jose--it's not a puerto rican flag---it's an iraqi flag.to show support for the iraqi people and their national pride which is being slapped in the face by the U.S. imperialists.
Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
26 May 2006
No, the first picture is a Puerto Rican flag. We are already in solidarity with the Iraqi people. We freed them from Saddam.
Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
26 May 2006
They are not revolutionaries. At least "revolutionaries" are worthy adversaries.
Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
02 Jun 2006
Many would support Ms. Rice as the next President!
Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
02 Jun 2006
You people are a bunch of RACISTS and SEXISTS ! You hate to see a sister rise to the top. You are all just sniveling privileged white college kids with no real job living off of mommy and daddy's trust funds. You need to get some sense of reality.
Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
03 Jun 2006
We hate to see a sister rise to the top because we know that she got there only by trampling those who remain at the the bottom.
Have you ever read "Yertle the Turtle"?
Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
03 Jun 2006
If you are at the bottom it is due to your own laziness and lac of initiative.
Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
03 Jun 2006
Make that LACK of initiative.
Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
03 Jun 2006
Laquisha-
Actually, the protests had nothing at all to do with race. It is sad that this even had to be brought up in this case. If there was a different secretary of state, who was, say white, and/or male who had acted in the same way that rice has during her tenure with the bush admin we would do the exact same thing we did at graduation. it is unfortuante that so many people think that we are acting out of racist or prejudiced beliefs. this is completely false. it was sad that so many conservatives held her up as a woman of color, and saying that was a reason to not protest. Should it be only on this basis that she be seen as a role model, rather than her actions as a public official? her actions as a woman of color in cooperating with such a fascist, racist, imperialistic government make this issue all the more difficult, but certainly will not deter the left from speaking out against injustice, whether or not it was propagated by a woman, or person of color, or not.
Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
06 Jun 2006
Withour a doubt it is about sexism and racism. For example when former Clinton Solicitor General Walter Dellinger spoke at the Boston College Commencement, I don't recall any heartburn about his support of Clinton's massacre of 3000 civilians in one night in Mogadishu, or how he declared the unprovoked Clinton War in Kosovo that killed over 50,000 civilians as within the bounds of international law" even though it was not sanctioned by the UN. This is liberal hypocricy at it's worst.
Re: Members of BC Community Hang Protest Banner During Rice Address
08 Jun 2006
Actually, the Cardinal Newman Society asked people to protest Dellinger because he was not in line with Catholic teachings. It was more related to his support of birth control and abortion-rights than his service to Clinton re Kosovo, but to say that people are only paying attention because this is Condoleezza Rice/George Bush is a little inaccurate.