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CodeThink / CodePInk on the Cable Ready Public Service
27 Jun 2004
One way of looking at it, consider limiting all perspectives to just a binary one, say two world views, one that favors passive acceptance, consumption, and such. The other critical even of that they value, respect, etc. Maybe the former could be made up of corporate media supporters, actively in terms of subscriptions, buying such media, passive in assuming the spectrum of 'debate' is all there is. The other supportive of various forms of independent media. For a few minutes the world didn't look flat...Other world leakage into 'cable ready public service'

This is an Active Citizenry, reverse "pop-up" of sorts, not from some "profit over people" entinity but from a lesser "Threat of a [www.goodexample]", that is, relative to CodePink Women for Peace.

Some what conceived as a result of seeing the 26 June 2004 "Green Party" convention from something other than IndyMedia or any number of a breath of independent media, some who uncritically mention corporate media and some that in no way do.

"If the left means anything, it means its concerned for the needs, welfare, and rights of the general population. So the left ought to be the overwhelming majority of the population, and in some respects I think it is." --Noam Chomsky

It's also a challenge to Senator Kerry to recognize that it migth be a matter of Hegemony or Survival: (see the book by the same name preferably from an independent book publisher (South End Press, Common Courage Press, etc.) so would he consider having the statement given by CodePink founder at the "Green (not corporate party or third party) representative of what he might have said of the current period in the spirit of what he said in the Winter Soldier days.

It ought not be much of a surprise to get a glimpse of reality from a source other than a corporate media network ad but just the same if you experience something from a 'CommunityCaste "cable" company, and in particular from something created by a group of them with a familar sounding ring (see David Barsamian's book on the Rise and Fall of...)... -public service created by the American cable television industry - then that ought to be taken into consideration. Fine you're seeing a bit of what in fact exists worldwide, and you may know the significance of February 15, 2003 ( I won't insult the 'audience' as David Cobb might have!) in terms of a global scale, unpreceented, like the protests (and other complementary actions from people not 'there') before the invasion of Iraq, unlike Vietnam that took years after bombings and other acts of...what was it that was being brought?

When Micheal Parenti was on the same unsaid public interest network. During the interview the host said whenever someone like you is on we hear 'hey what about Howard Zinn...' Much the same could be said of all the groups and individuals that were in plain view during one of the D.C. actions - they would have been staples to anyone who doesn't soley support corproate media butr why doesn't this public interest mention more of them? How long did it take that wonderful radio network (when they reflect about themselves - 'NRP) to mention Military Families Speak Out other than within the ifirst year after invasion maybe only at "the top of the news hour". Likewise for 'Depleted' Uranium and much else of the type, 'wait wait don't tell us' - like their game show.

A sidenote: www.gp.org does haves references to GNN (wonder if forced to change old domain name they had), UJP, Global Exchange, IndyMedia, etc. byt not to FSRN, Flashpoints, and much else too.

Hopefully nobody will be 'forced' to change from "no charge" (it's not free if you have to submit personal information or endure pop-ups and such) to so-called better service inorder to recover from loss of pop/smtp service.

Though www.goodexample.info is currently only a Z Magazine, Znet supporter in terms of the the occasional issue at Lucy Parsons Center in Boston, etc. and in two senses of outreach, what others can do as members of the 'community of people committed to social change' I sometimes use "Send Znet article' to a Friend" to also utilize the form to include mail message when in a library that doesn't offer pop/smtp ability to access your mail. Maybe if monetary support increased Znet could keep links to Z Magzines artilces available longer and "open" up all, no member" only areas. It's up to you.

One of the references in Hats off to Martin Voelker suffered from this limitation, the article is no longer available.

Not trying to be a freerider, want to make available to everyone, and will try to reach a threshold of support donations (Affero?) if they are interested.

An excerpt (see Hats off for source) from The New Crisis in Democracy: One of the main reasons I go to give lots of talks is that it brings together people from that town or city or region who are working along pretty similar lines, or at least parallel lines, and dont have much to do with each other. If you just take Boston, there are lots and lots of groups. But they barely know about each other. The total level of participation is probably quite substantial. On the other hand, the degree of integration is slight and the degree of involvement varies. That means theres not much in the way of long-term thinking or planning or strategy.

Seems apt: War Talk by Arundhati Roy.

Maine IMC: "Arrest, felony charges for protester at Boston military recruiter" disappointing that Not in Our Name mentions this but refers to something other than media that's even close to independent of consumption. Be critical of independent media too.

Traprock Peace Center Calendar



Traprock Peace Center 
Your contributions and your comments are indispensable. 
phone: 413 773-7427 
http://www.traprockpeace.org 

June / July / August - 
--------------------------------------------------------- 
  Summer Is for Peacemaking 
  Something for everyone ... 

 Take a single step, or leaps and bounds. 
 
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Meet the Nuclear Regulatory Commission Reps. - June 24


 2. Happy 50th to Woolman Hill! - June 26
 3. The End of Cheap Oil June 27
 4. Sunday July 4 Traprocks Peace Picnic
 5. Community Consultations July 10
 6. Peace Walk - "The People are Coming" - July 13-21
 7. Solar Oven Workshop - coming soon!
 8. Pioneer Valley War Tax Resisters July 18
 9. Irish peace project visits the Valley - July 22 
 10. Veterans for Peace Conference, Boston - July 22-24
 11. BOSTON SOCIAL FORUM - July 23-25 -3000 expected!
 12. Weed Walk & Balm Workshop - July 24?
 13. Democracy Uprising Walk from Boston to NYC - July 30-Aug. 26
 14. Hiroshima-Nagasaki Days - Aug. 4-9 
 15. The Fever - Aug. 17?


David Cobb was (www.votecobb.org talking about corporate media but referring to 'whowho on website. Though glad phone number was also given during "convention" as well as website information.

Iraq Body Count when ever you hear someone say, 'nobody knows....'...

Water Wars, in its current for probably won't hear 'local news' in Boston or elsewhere mention a conference of mayors... Clean Water action, no sport team sales news, movie reviews, hey its' snowing in Boston.

Some culled, just a few, under reported and "missed" by the profit-is-the-goal networks, references for you to share ("persuade them to persuade themselves", not "educate them") with an aunt, uncle, friend, and others.

In Rachel Corrie's memory, imagine if more citizens knew, construction workers generally, those who operate Catt'killer bulldozers...

When David Cobb described why he had to be "Green" and called on others to "join" and he neglected to mention not just the many people who don't vote but imagine if what they do each and every day translated into peaceful action (Peave Action) in a pursuit of common disinterest.

Greenpeace International Joining is fine but there's also concerns by "non-members", the ones who make up the G8 Billion!

The Unconscious Civilization by John Ralston Saul (details coming)

What form of 'public radio' to you support?? When DN! and FSRN, more evident a change in the former whereas before they were exemplar in citing their own network of reporters and IndyMedia and much more now uncritically refer to corporate media. Do they do so in hopes that they will in turn refer to them? One might doubt so.

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Re: CodeThink / CodePInk on the Cable Ready Public Service
27 Jun 2004

Martin "'wow' is all some people can say'" Voelker, No-U-Turn Radio (AirwaveWEB), like the road sign that so many people ignore, as he might say, though this is short on details will be physically leaving the Boston/Cambridge/Medford -Gloucester and all the other places he has been to in his recording and connecting realm) community to work with David Barsamian, Alternative Radio in Colorado.

{just one gripe with AR, their reference to the Search Engine of Record, and all those associated with community radio who continue referring to 'whowho, 'ola, 'verysign, 'Boston Goebbell, etc. while at times being unable to note the admission of a "peace and justice related event", and why oh why still referring to what you present as "an alternative view" - unless you qualify explicitly as an alternative to corporate media, and why not ActIndy , or what happended to Bread Hours?, Making Contact transcript: #39-99 Money: Wealth or Illusion?" , not Debt Card sponsors, etc.}

David Barsamian has received the Upton Sinclair Award..., books on South End Press .

As evident by Stan Robinson and 'others' continuity will continue and so will a reflection of reality as experienced and perceived by some who don't uncritically accept 'NRP, 'don't forget to thank our underwriters, something they actually say on air not to mention all the self assuring appraisals they give themselves and while at it Free Speech Radio News used to primarily site their own reporters (see Labor Day 2003 special), as well as various Indy Media Centers, and many others but now -eventually www.goodexample.info/samples.html will cite the all too many references to 'this corp media says' and references to the 'sunday mourning unconscious civilization shows; Stan who has more than filled in on Sunday morning (WZBC, Newton, MA) giving chance for some to standup for "four hours of attention span' as John Grebe (Sounds of Dissent who along with No-U-Turn Radio are exemplar at still being autonomous at same time while demostrating sister station connections, yet might say (and the host who I did not yet know, missed her name who was in for John did a fine interview ( Professor Steven Zunes, International Womens' Peace Service - who I don't know how he refrained from the mythical propagation by other guest in regards to ...

This is not news; neither are virtually constant weather reports, sport team sales, movie reviews, etc. Nor does this even fit into the breath allowed by international coverage of life, politics and protest as once served as a posting delimiter in IndyGlobal.

I don't think he'll miss those 'France is Next" bumphead stickers that are still around Medford. Maybe he gave up on waiting for more than a few handful of those 'Thanks for Enduring the (T)' hybrid busses.

I would usually check to make sure there wasn't already a recent Newswire posting related to Martin but....he's worth duplicating.

Hats off to Martin at least several times.

Though what follows was shared via e-mail to those noted I include it here as sort of an example of one-to-many feedback & comments which at some point will primarily be intented to facilitate for those so inclined to go beyond one-to-none (no acknowlegement, etc.) commenting on so-called public radio, and their ought to be plenty to do so, for instance when they say how wonderful they are especially during 'just send us $300.00'- I suspect they value the few over the many at these sorts of support requests- how they represent the community, those corporate underwriters aren't really there, etc. and a way to respond to anyone saying how "nobody" cares where fossil fuel comes from, or that people only care about the 'price at the pumps' not the price at the cementary FSRN News Headline & Segment text/audio archive if I recall it was here that it was suggested that if the U.S. "defense" prepared for offense if the euphemism in reverse might actualy allow it to prepare for its defense, and to be critical of that which one might value but still wish to offer feedback; in this case uncritical source references to corporate media during FSRN News Headlines and segments which is far more (or used to be) out of the ordinary than say DN! The (T)hanks for enduring US transit in Boston and its nicely decorated trains with beer displays; does the T give back anything to community space for its use of such space?

Subject: re: Hats off the Martin Voelker.....Boston.Indymedia:http://boston.indymedia.org/newswire/display/22314/index.php
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 13:06:59 -0400
To: info@alternativeradio.org, martin@nouturn.org
CC: zunes@usfca.edu, JGrebe@TecsChange.org, dfernandes@wbai.org

It was refreshing to hear Martin rebroadcast the AR's History Matters (You Can't be Neutral...http://www.coolidge.org/s_events.html, dated but)

The title is fitting for a friend who thought, or thinks I'm out from of space because I think it does matter. I'll leave that and recount a history professor at NSCC who I believe Professor Howard Zinn was involved with his dissertation. The jist of it was after someone, a graduate in early childhood who though I was glad she mentioned Howard Zinn in class was not familar with much of the media available as noted by AirwaveWEB. The professor went on to suggest that people like Howard Zinn aren't qualified to write about "good wars" or any kind of them since they weren't in any. I quickly injected that he was a bombadeer and didn't get to saying how this experience certainly effected his later historical perspective from as Noam Chomsky might say from the point of view of the person with the boot on thier neck. But I was told this is not the case, I know it is. History doesn't repeat but it does get trampled upon.

Some quick comments Deepa Fernandes, FSRN producer:

I will later direct a more explicit note regarding my perceptions that something has drastically changed at FSRN whereby now there's uncritical references being made to corporate media as sources within news segments.  Prior to this I couldn't say enough about the mix of sources which in addition to the FSRN network of reporters included, IMC sources,  and many others that consistently appeared.

What became of the FSRN opening that you had that noted the 'over fifty community radio stations - certainly thought it was more apt and more reflective of the various local<->global interpentable nature of each FSRN broadcast.   It's no big deal but the citing of the FSRN archive seems to be quite random in its placement and some times is left out.  And most everyone knows how to spell ".ORG"!  

I'm glad to see the repeating of segment snippets at the beginning of program introduction appears to have been dropped.  The way you usually do it is fine.  I have been meaning to ask Stop the War Coalition to include you in the fine list of link references: http://www.stopwar.org.uk/links.asp.  Also at some point I will arrange www.goodexample.info/samples.html so that it is a sort of  organized like play spaces in a early childhood classroom; even though there's separate areas such as sand and sensory, blocks, dramatic, writing, drawing, etc. development of social, emotional and much more occurs across the areas, or as is probably more clearly described as "Books in the Sand Box? Markers in the blocks?"  Moving beyond a simple expanded form of some of the many references FSRN always mentions I hope to have a breakdown of specific areas, toxic and chemical related, protests, "free speech" zone infringements, etc. some form that shows the interconnectedness but organized even more than what "The Threat of a [www.goodexample.info]"  now offers, and the FSRN  understandably sequential archive, as fine as it is of individual shows allows might be able to be complemented by such a form.  Also the ability to search text from within audio files  might be of use but I never heard back from ...(I have his name elsewhere but I appreciate the acceptance of my thoughts on allowing the archive to be more easily connected to "back" and  "forward "(Return to FSRN's news archive or FSRN's home page.), and as much as I refrain generally from citing the News'dire there ability to go from one show segment to the other is quite handy (not that I am spending anytime there!)

Since I am beginning to ramble as all to often happens I'll end by saying when I once attempted the above to allow children the opportunity "draw in the block area", label their buildings, write in dramatic area, another  teacher asked, "who put these markers here!".
 
A snip from (www.goodexample.info/airwavewebflyer.html) - AirwaveWEB making more of the letters I prefer...)  I plan to make it more universal, globally usable such that it would refer to FSRN's '"where to listen in your areas stations" and the same for others programs that have this, call attention to the need to support you all by purchasing and sharing with others what's available from you, and when you make transcripts accessible as you do then more of us could show our appreciation  by Aferro (www.affero.net)  and others who I have been trying to get a click and support, or Community Windows (www.goodexample.info/interweb.html).

I "wish" ZNet would refrain from having a closed segment of their site by somehow asking the community of support to make some target monetary goal such that they could make this available in addition to the wealth of information they already have;  (there's is not the place to discuss Z but I can't figure why they and all too many others appear to uncritically  accept "low wage" workers as a category without mentioning the underlying reason why one might be inclined to describe someone or even more extensively when a community or even a country is described as "poor"; why do they still refer to 'alternative media" I thought well beyond shows such as yours and many others not being an alternative but the norm as distinct from corporate media.

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An example, of a common disinterest ads, those "ads" that don't default to corporate ones, and that also might strive towards more integration:

An excerpt from The New Crisis in Democracy:

One of the main reasons I go to give lots of talks is that it brings together people from that town or city or region who are working along pretty similar lines, or at least parallel lines, and dont have much to do with each other. If you just take Boston, there are lots and lots of groups. But they barely know about each other. The total level of participation is probably quite substantial. On the other hand, the degree of integration is slight and the degree of involvement varies. That means theres not much in the way of long-term thinking or planning or strategy.

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A some what readable repeat of the base of this, started at IMC reference below.

Maybe you or Martin could include as a comment to the enclosed Boston IMC Newswire note with some details regarding his move to Colorado, AR or include a pointer or maybe the No-U-Turn Radio website would include some information about it....

All the best to Martin Voelker, No-U-Turn Radio...base of this at Boston's IMC

Martin "'wow' is all some people can say'" Voelker, No-U-Turn Radio ( AirwaveWEB), like the road sign that so many people ignore, as he might say, though this is short on details will be physically leaving the Boston/Cambridge/Medford - Gloucester and all the other places he has been to in his recording and connecting realm - community to work with David Barsamian, Alternative Radio in Colorado.

{just one gripe with AR, their reference to the Search Engine of Record, and all those associated with community radio who continue referring to 'whowho, 'ola, 'verysign, 'Boston Goebbell, etc. while at times being unable to note the admission price of a "peace and justice related event", and why oh why still referring to what they present as "an alternative view" - unless it's explicitly stated as an alternative to corporate media, and why not ActIndy , and what happened to Bread Hours?, (Making Contact transcript: #39-99 Money: Wealth or Illusion?" ,) not Debt Card sponsors, etc.}

David Barsamian has received the Upton Sinclair Award..., books on South End Press .

As evident by Stan Robinson and 'others' continuity will continue and so will a reflection of reality as experienced and perceived by some who don't uncritically accept 'NRP, 'don't forget to thank our underwriters, something they actually say on air not to mention all the self assuring appraisals they give themselves, and while at it Free Speech Radio News used to primarily site their own reporters (see Labor Day Special: Working News; FSRN from the Ground Up 2003 - http://www.fsrn.org/news/20030901_news.html), as well as various Indy Media Centers, and many others but now -eventually www.goodexample.info/samples.html will cite the all too many news source references such as to 'this corporate media says' and references to the 'Sunday mourning unconscious civilization shows;

Stan who has more than filled in on Sunday morning (WZBC, Newton, MA) giving chance for some to standup for "four hours of attention span' as John Grebe (Sounds of Dissent who along with No-U-Turn Radio are exemplar at still being autonomous at same time while demonstrating sister station connections, yet might say (and the host who I did not yet know, missed her name who was in for John did a fine interview ( Professor Steven Zunes, International Womens' Peace Service - who I don't know how he refrained from the mythical propagation by other guest in regards to ...

This is not news; neither are virtually constant weather reports, sport team sales, movie reviews, etc. Nor does this even fit into the breath allowed by international coverage of life, politics and protest as once served as a posting delimiter in IndyGlobal.

I don't think he'll miss those 'France is Next" bumphead stickers that are still around Medford. Maybe he gave up on waiting for more than a few handful of those 'Thanks for Enduring the (T)' hybrid busses.

I would usually check to make sure there wasn't already a recent Newswire posting related to Martin but....he's worth duplicating.

Hats off to Martin at least several times. P.S. Primarilty to . Deepa Fernandes: I will later direct a more explicit note to FSRN regarding my perceptions that something has drastically changed at FSRN whereby now there's uncritical references being made to corporate media as sources within news segments. I couldn't say enough before about the mix of sources which in addition to the FSRN network of reporters included, IMC sources, and many others that consistently appeared. Also, my preferred opening that you had for the news was the one calling attention to the 'over fifty community radio stations - certainly thought it was more apt and more reflective of the various local<->global interpentable nature of each FSRN broadcast. It's no big deal but the citing of the FSRN archive seems to be quite random in its placement and some times is left out. And most everyone knows how to spell ".ORG"!

I'm glad to see the repeating of segment snippets at the beginning of program introduction appears to have been dropped. The way you usually do it is fine. I have been meaning to ask Stop the War Coalition to include you in the fine list of link references: http://www.stopwar.org.uk/links.asp. Also at some point I will arrange www.goodexample.info/samples.html so that it is a sort of organized like play spaces in a early childhood classroom; even though there's separate areas such as sand and sensory, blocks, dramatic, writing, drawing, etc. development of social, emotional and much more occurs across the areas, or as is probably more clearly described as "Books in the Sand Box? Markers in the blocks?" Moving beyond a simple expanded form of some of the many references FSRN always mentions I hope to have a breakdown of specific areas, toxic and chemical related, protests, "free speech" zone infringements, etc. some form that shows the interconnectedness but organized even more than what "The Threat of a [www.goodexample.info]" now offers, and the FSRN understandably sequential archive, as fine as it is of individual shows allows might be able to be complemented by such a form. Also the ability to search text from within audio files might be of use but I never heard back from ...(I have his name elsewhere but I appreciate the acceptance of my thoughts on allowing the archive to be more easily connected to "back" and "forward "(Return to FSRN's news archive or FSRN's home page.), and as much as I refrain generally from citing the News'dire there ability to go from one show segment to the other is quite handy (not that I am spending anytime there!

Since I am beginning to ramble as all to often happens I'll end by saying when I once attempted the above to allow children the opportunity "draw in the block area", label their buildings, write in dramatic area, another teacher asked, "who put these markers here!".

Martin "'wow' is all some people can say'" Voelker, No-U-Turn Radio (AirwaveWEB), like the road sign that so many people ignore, as he might say, though this is short on details will be physically leaving the Boston/Cambridge/Medford -Gloucester and all the other places he has been to in his recording and connecting realm) community to work with David Barsamian, Alternative Radio in Colorado.

{just one gripe with AR, their reference to the Search Engine of Record, and all those associated with community radio who continue referring to 'whowho, 'ola, 'verysign, 'Boston Goebbell, etc. while at times being unable to note the admission of a "peace and justice related event", and why oh why still referring to what you present as "an alternative view" - unless you qualify explicitly as an alternative to corporate media, and why not ActIndy , or what happended to Bread Hours?, Making Contact transcript: #39-99 Money: Wealth or Illusion?" , not Debt Card sponsors, etc.}

David Barsamian has received the Upton Sinclair Award..., books on South End Press .

As evident by Stan Robinson and 'others' continuity will continue and so will a reflection of reality as experienced and perceived by some who don't uncritically accept 'NRP, 'don't forget to thank our underwriters, something they actually say on air not to mention all the self assuring appraisals they give themselves and while at it Free Speech Radio News used to primarily site their own reporters (see Labor Day 2003 special), as well as various Indy Media Centers, and many others but now -eventually www.goodexample.info/samples.html will cite the all too many references to 'this corp media says' and references to the 'sunday mourning unconscious civilization shows; Stan who has more than filled in on Sunday morning (WZBC, Newton, MA) giving chance for some to standup for "four hours of attention span' as John Grebe (Sounds of Dissent who along with No-U-Turn Radio are exemplar at still being autonomous at same time while demostrating sister station connections, yet might say (and the host who I did not yet know, missed her name who was in for John did a fine interview ( Professor Steven Zunes, International Womens' Peace Service - who I don't know how he refrained from the mythical propagation by other guest in regards to ...

This is not news; neither are virtually constant weather reports, sport team sales, movie reviews, etc. Nor does this even fit into the breath allowed by international coverage of life, politics and protest as once served as a posting delimiter in IndyGlobal.

I don't think he'll miss those 'France is Next" bumphead stickers that are still around Medford. Maybe he gave up on waiting for more than a few handful of those 'Thanks for Enduring the (T)' hybrid busses.

I would usually check to make sure there wasn't already a recent Newswire posting related to Martin but....he's worth duplicating.

Hats off to Martin Voelker at least several times.

by j@'not_CommunityCaste
Not @ 'ola.com either

For an example as to what the threat of a www.goodexample.info was on about regarding all the uncritical and apparently accepting e-mail addresses who in effect advertize for 'whowho, 'ola, 'CommunityCaste pleae don't view this link so as not to further propagate.

Not surprising no acknowledgement:

I once contacted imc-boston-office@'some-corporate-lego.com when it was something other than imc...@indymedia.org, etc. via imc-boston-office at goodexample.info (yea to show it actually worked) not for self-promotion purposes as one migth suspect. The Threat of G E website other than a bit of commentary is mostly references to other threat of goodexamples.info so any self-promotion is really to them all.

One point of G E (not the ones who bring great profits to shareholders) is being to mind the gap between individuals and organizations and independent media (ones that don't uncritically refer to corporate media) that rightly maintain their autonomy when they could still do so by stengthening connections and resources (Boston Councilor Chuck Turner articulated this point during an event that might have been recorded by www.freemanz.com).

'whowho

Re: CodeThink / CodePInk on the Cable Ready Public Service
27 Jun 2004
The context was: I didn't think 'NetZed would be so careless to allow someone to access their listserv. I attempted to add some comments about not being swayed to join due the 'loss' of pop/smtp as of June 2004 in a marketing attempt to get some of us who are still looking for an ISP that's underwritten by peace and justice but like waiting for no commercial radio to stop plugging 'ola, 'whowho and such while not being able to mention the cost of an ActIndy event, or a public interest phone network, etc. mightr be a wait. Seen anyone advertsizing for private water lately. If you missed them then corpate campus, you know the ones with corprate ties, partnerships, you bound to see people only to willing to prefer it over the tap. To each no own.