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PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Just1pin Email: just1pin (nospam) ureach.com (unverified!)	30 Jul 2004
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PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
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nice photos
by sorry state (No verified email address)	30 Jul 2004
good photos, thanks

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by B-rad anmin1517 (nospam) yahoo.com (unverified)	30 Jul 2004
Help is on the way...!!

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Scared Citizen (No verified email address)	30 Jul 2004
Well if you so called "anarchist" could actually have a peaceful demonstration the police would not have to protect themselves. Also, nice job by the freaky bike messengers yesterday trying to disrupt traffic in an area that had been shut down to traffic. Morons.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by citizen (No verified email address)	30 Jul 2004
"scared citizen" - your last comment was almost as funny as "hey dude, where's my car". good job.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by reality (No verified email address)	30 Jul 2004
I hope the protests at the RNC are bigger... and I think they will be, for obvious reasons. Let them try to keep New Yorkers in a pen! We'll let the world know that while we were intellient enough to protest Kerry continuing the war, we are also intelligent enough to know who the biggest and original enemy is - the ruthless cabal in the current administration. Ben Franklin said "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Wait till you see the police state at the RNC. Then help us all show GWB what Mr. Franklin meant.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Emma (No verified email address)	30 Jul 2004
Looking at the uniformed troops and the black "Darth Vader" costumes I can just FEEL the LOVE. Juxtapose this message with the phoney Democratic Convention posturing that this is the party of the people.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by reality (No verified email address)	30 Jul 2004
Who was in charge of security? The Darth Vader outfits look to me like a continuation of the police state policies of the bush cabal to me. It's their fearmongering and suppression of free speech that laid the groundwork for the BPD to think that these draconian measures might be needed. The repugs wanted the world to think that this much was needed, when in reality only the current administration actually has to protect itself from a revolutionary protest. I don't think Kerry is all we would want, but he is better than a fascist. I hate that the current policy for a major event is a police state, but I don't blame the Democrats for that policy, I blame the policymakers.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by mothra (No verified email address)	30 Jul 2004
you obviously didn't listen to Kerry's acceptance speech last night. this kind of police state was brewing long before the Bushies came to town and none of the democrats who came into power did anything to stifle it. if kerry gave two shits about the working class of this country, if he was any better than Bush, he wouldn't have allowed his fucking party to be in the center of Boston. no one was able to work, people lost wages, contracts were snuffed, local businesses bled money all week and saw probably the worst sales in a long fucking time because the democrats got freebies from major corporations all week and went to chain restaurants they were familiar with. fuck the democrats.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by ABBOK (No verified email address)	30 Jul 2004
"It's their fearmongering and suppression of free speech that laid the groundwork for the BPD to think that these draconian measures might be needed." Then how exactly do you explain Seattle? Or A16? Or the 2000 RNC? Or the 2000 DNC? These police-state measures have been in place long before Bu$hCo took over. That's not to say they haven't gotten worse over the past few years, but you definitely can't blame it all on bush. The fascist police state is bipartisan. Don't expect it to get better if Kerry wins.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by reality (No verified email address)	30 Jul 2004
I do expect it to get better, and I KNOW it has a better chance of getting better under Kerry than it would under Bush. Look, we have a choice - perhaps it isn't the best choice we could hope for, but there is NO DOUBT who is the lesser of two evils here. I know you want to make your points, but generalizations such as "none of the democrats who came into power did anything to stifle it" just isn't true. Even some repugs realize this is nuts. >>Quote>End Quote

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by reality (No verified email address)	30 Jul 2004
Begin Quote "Members of the U.S. House, including those on the House Judiciary Committee and the House Select Committee on Homeland Security, sent a letter to U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft urging him to drop the federal criminal prosecution of Bursey. The letter signed by 11 members of the House, including Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., and Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, states, in part: "As we read the First Amendment to the Constitution, the United States is a "free speech zone." In the United States, free speech is the rule, not the exception, and citizens' rights to express it do not depend on their doing it in a way that the president finds politically amenable." The American Civil Liberties Union, on behalf of four national advocacy groups, has filed a lawsuit in federal court charging the Secret Service with a "pattern and practice" of discrimination against protesters that violates their free speech rights. The suit seeks to ban the Secret Service and local police from confining protesters to areas away from the view of public officials and the press. " End Quote Now, I know it isn't direct action, but action within our system IS ACTION. It's not as headline grabbing as protest, but it has the ability to create sustainable change from within. I listened to the speech live. I then re-read the speech. I then re-read it again. And I saved a copy to teach my children what a real statesman is if he continues through his presidency this way. Do I trust them? Oh Hell No! I plan to watch them like a hawk, but I KNOW the democrats will be better than the repugs.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Hank (No verified email address)	30 Jul 2004
ever growing police state? gimme a break. i hardly ever see police in my every day life travels. just because some police show up to a protest does not proove that we are under an 'every growing police state'. in fact, about the only time i see police is at protests where i am glad to see them. as an idependant local store owner, i don't want my windows busted in and am grateful for the police in situations where someone stupid will use any excuse to loot or cause damage to their neighbor...

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Justin M just1pin (nospam) ureach.com (unverified)	30 Jul 2004
Hank. I'm glad that blatent racism is rampant in our society. you clearly have no concept of what "everyday life" is like for people of color in this country. I can smell your white privlidge through this computer. you also haven't taken the T in past few weeks

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by mothra (No verified email address)	30 Jul 2004
no protesters are going to be smashing in the windows of locally owned, independent businesses. If you knew anything about this movement, you'd know that. If you operated a starbucks, however... if your windows were to be broken, it would be stupid kids who have no idea what "anarchism" is about, or people trying to rob the place, which about 99% of the time has nothing to do with politics. also, if you were on boston common on tuesday, you'd understand. it wasn't even a protest or a rally and yet there was a helicopter circling below 600ft w/a sniper rifle hanging out of it aimed at the people on the common. Imagine riot cops busting up a peaceful county fair.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by just a few for you (No verified email address)	30 Jul 2004
you know for sure it's "an ever growing police state" when people think nothing of "just a few police showing up at a protest": that's not "just a few", that's whole squadrons of them, of all description, federal,state,local & 'special', to intimidate the hell out of anyone rash enough to want to exercise their basic Constitutional rights - if you can accept that and the concrete and razor wire "free" concentration pen so carefully conceived and constucted, you're well on your way to abdicating those rights voluntarily... and that's even scarier.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Hey (No verified email address)	30 Jul 2004
If it takes platoons of riot cops to keep you shitheads in line so be it

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by boston's finest (No verified email address)	31 Jul 2004
protecting democracy from the people. the STATE is a threat to all LIFE!

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by pedro alves pedroalvez808 (nospam) hotmail.com (unverified)	02 Aug 2004
remmeber what bush the illiterate moron said of sadam not allowing dissent?well america indeed it is he and his crooked politicians wether they are dem or rep who dont like disset.america is entering a new chapter in its modern history.it is going to be a rough rough ride.ina land built by revolution,it will be no wonder to those who cherish freedom,the only way to get back our rigth to freedom will be by force.unfortunatly this seems to be the only remedy,in americas darkest modern day history,where our basic rigths are eroding on a dailybasis.may god be with us against this police state.we will win.or we will all die figthing in the tradition of those who fougth for the freedom i this land.the founding fathers had warned us what to do when entrenched with such a situatio,as we are now,we must figth the tyranical gov that is choking our very lives,along with the rest of the world.we must expel themultinationalists who control our corp,and who offshore our livelihoods for cheap labor,we must abolish this crooked system in wich special interst and foreign loies finace the campaign of our leaders,and become therefore only attentive and responsive for these peoples interests,failing its working citizens.we must stop letting other nations such as israel dictate who we should be bombing,regardless of the spoils.we must stop meddling in affairsof other ountries and installing ditators who in time will only retaliate back.the citizensof most of this world know we dont send democracy but rather a corrupt system.we export terrorism,we have done it in guatemala,peru,brazil,indo china,africa,carribean,europe,middle east.they know,and those of us who deny this,are only wronging themselves.we have installed many dictatorsthruout this world.it is time to stop meddling in other countries affairs.it is the wish of the founding fathers.may god bless all the world not just us.let the just e just in the name of all peoples thruout the world.no commie represented all of russia,no communist represented all of south ameria.our labeling of people in this manner only show we are fascists and hipocrits,lets make america shine in the rigth way.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Wasted Money agsinbox (nospam) yahoo.com (unverified)	02 Aug 2004
These squadrons of police are simply a facade to further the cause of the neocons and strike more fear into the people. Did these guys actually see any action???? NO! It was all a waste of taxpayer money, and probably LOTS of it. The fact that the Republican govt. ponies up so much money for the DNC also proves democracy is an illusion in the states.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by poor richard prichard (nospam) yahoo.com (unverified)	02 Aug 2004
Andy Taylor and Barney Fife where are you when we need you???

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by stringbeliever (No verified email address)	02 Aug 2004
this is fucking outrageous. With an outfit like that, how could anyone not take themselves seriously enough to bash a grandma over the head? fuckin' stormtroopers clones... How can anyone feel safe at all? and what makes the "pro-police state" advocate believer that the stormtroopers won't be turned on them when the dollar collapses and there is no more "civil society?"

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Bob Thomson laughing (nospam) you.yanks.com (unverified)	02 Aug 2004
This American self styled democracy is working fine, just a shame your trying to export it to the rest of the world. And Yanks wonder why Iraqi's aren't bringing them flowers in the streets..

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by PETER CALIF56 (unverified)	02 Aug 2004
US PEOPLE DESERVE BETTER THAN ROBOT COPS. THEY HAD BETTER ARM THEMSELVES BEFORE IT'S TOO DAMN LATE!

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by jan (No verified email address)	02 Aug 2004
i SAW IT WASHINGTON DC MORE THAN A YEAR AGO, I SEE IT NY, THE WORSE IS TO COME. THIS IS AN IMAGE OF DEMOCRACY THAT BOTH PARTIES ARE PROUD OF.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Tom (No verified email address)	02 Aug 2004
Get used to it people . . . this show of police presence is but a dress rehearsal for the coming days, when the people start to form a critical mass of opinion based on the truth of what is going on right now. Remember the Democratic Convention in 1968(Chicago) . . . the Commission to investigate the riots concluded that it was a police riot. And this was a government investigation under a Republican administration! If and when US troops/police are unleashed on their own fellow citizens, I am sure we will see a gigantic change of heart on the part of many law enforcement people and no-nothing citizens who take what Bush and Co. tells them as gospel. It is so ironic that these police in Boston are so armed to the teeth to face down people protesting for a more PEACEFUL world. It is a very sad irony that I am sure has our founding fathers squirming in their graves!

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by heath (No verified email address)	02 Aug 2004
sacred citizen is a shill. Most violence in protests have been attributed to under cover officers dressed in plain clothes. They are on assignment to create havoc, in order to shut down protests that the Federal Government disapproves of. By the way people, we live in a Constitutional Republic. This is not a domocracy unless you like the way the Romans ran their government. Remind everyone that we are a Constitutional Republic, including your congress people.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by js nabatae (nospam) yaho.om (unverified)	02 Aug 2004
an an ancient authour, polybius, I write for posterity whether it is 20, 30 or a thousand year into the future. this is what governments do. if you look for certain indicators and it will always be the same etc., they do not have to tell you the truth, but you can be acertain once you have understood what to look for, you can arrive at their real intention. polybius wrote about the punic wars between carthage and rome. it is a very big hint to read his books, it has much information and is still revelant to current modern affairs. the police state is no surprise. the real issue when will the next major disaster comes and will the population believe the propaganda again. it time to arrest key players in the government for the sake of avoiding more wars. j

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by heath (No verified email address)	02 Aug 2004
reality, the country will not get better under Kerry. Come on, both Bush and Kerry are Skull and Bones. Educate yourself on Masonic orders like Skull and Bones, and Masonic Orders ties to Israel. The real enemy this country faces is Israel. Not the Muslims. Educate yourself about Mossad and 911. Support Jews against Zionism! “Every time we do something, you [Shimon Peres] tell me America will do this and will do that.. I want to tell you something very clear: Don’t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.” — Ariel Sharon Israeli Prime Minister, homicidal psychopath Jewish Mafia member Knesset, Tel Aviv, October 3, 2001

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Magneto (No verified email address)	02 Aug 2004
The piggies sure look striking in their hi-tech body armor! It makes one almost look forward to encountering the fashinonable fascist servants. To protect and serve indeed.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by dave brewer (unverified)	02 Aug 2004
my comment is "this is shit" bullshit bullshit and more bullshit they will be escorting us around next with there weapons of mass destruction

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Agent Provocateur (No verified email address)	02 Aug 2004
The government hires people like me to work for the FBI as disruptive forces at demonstrations, acting anti-social and breaking things to make everyone else involved look bad.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by dan daniel.mcweeney (nospam) roche.com (unverified)	02 Aug 2004
I think the Boston police have more head protection than our soldiers in Iraq.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Mark (No verified email address)	02 Aug 2004
Burma in 1988 comes to mind. Man, Hitler would be so proud of America, if he were alive. We are achieving what he failed: Imperial domination, suspension of civil liberties, and the Americans are accepting it! Just replace the word "Jew" in Mein Kampf with Arab, and you have America's Foreign policy. Long live the Gestapo! Of course, weaponization is peace! war is peace, freedom is slavery... oh Orwell, if you were only here...

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Look Closely (No verified email address)	02 Aug 2004
What these photos represent is a nation in fear of its own ignorance. Desperately trying to cling to some kind of control. A place where control is the only solution. This is a society of Orwellian proportions where many actually believe control = freedom. Time to understand the only choice you have are republicrats, two sides but one coin.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Marikken (No verified email address)	02 Aug 2004
Actually, the uniforms are meant to hide the ever-expanding midriffs of the donut-eaters! Trying to get a laugh when really I feel like crying. Clearly these police are not there to protect anybody but the ideas and riches of the STATE. Capitalism keeps looking more and more like what we were taught communism looked like.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Tracy V tracyv (nospam) hotmail.com (unverified)	02 Aug 2004
All I know is I need an armored suit like that to go protesting in!! So the Enforcers can't hurt me, the innocent citizen!! So if anyone has a source for that suit, other then becoming a cop! email me!! tracyv my blog: http://tracyandnicole.thedreaming.com/blogs/tracyv/

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Run away ASAP! (No verified email address)	02 Aug 2004
Welcome to the United Police State of America! Forget about demo-cracy, we are deep in minority-cracy. Tyrany-cracy in other words, is very close.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by rob rob_shields (nospam) hotmail.com (unverified)	02 Aug 2004
STORM TROOPERS. Looks like Flame throwers and fire extingishers. Why does the BOMB SQUAD say "pay close subliminal attention here" "SPECIAL OPERATIONS" as in BOMB PLANTING? MOD SQUAD BOMB SQUAD as in they work with special bombs. THE MILITARY is the ones SELLING these PIGS all this MILITARY EQUIPMENT. for what a flag burner? A finger flipper as in FU? A FIRST AMMENDMENT or SECOND AMENDMENT LAW ABIDING CITIZEN like the rest of us? For people SPEEDING? FOR JAYWALKING? WAKE the FU!

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Bud budsackaday (nospam) hotmail.com (unverified)	02 Aug 2004
What are these guys so afraid of that they have to cover every square inch of their bodies with protective armor? Why is it illegal for ordinairy citizens to dress in the same manner?

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Machiavelli (No verified email address)	02 Aug 2004
"Everyone gets the government they deserve."

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by John (No verified email address)	02 Aug 2004
I thought that Marikken's comment that "Capitalism keeps looking more and more like what we were taught communism looked like. " was a very good and perceptive observation of what is happening now in the U.S.. The World Book Dictionary(pre-bush era editions) defines Capitalism as: Capitalism-(kap'e te liz' em), n. 1. an economic system based on the ownership of land, factories, and other means of production by private individuals who compete with one another, using the hired labor of other persons, to produce goods and services for a free market for whatever profit may be obtainable: The characteristic feature of modern capitalism is mass production of goods destined for consumption by the masses(Newsweek). 2. the concentration of wealth with its power and influence in the hands of a few. 3. a system which favors the existence of capitalists or the concentration of wealth in the hands of the few. and defines Communism as: Com•mu•nism (kom' ye niz em). n. 1.a philosophy or system derived from Marxism, advocating state ownership of land and property, postulating class conflict, and seeking the overthrow of noncommunist societies in behalf of the proletariat. 2. a political, social, and economic system in which the state governed by an elite party, controls production, labor, and distribution, and, largely, the social and cultural life and thought of the people: Communism is expressed in various movements, but Russian sovietism is often referred to as a fair example. In communism ownership and control of everything would be in the hands of a small group presumably representing the common people (Emory S. Bogardus). 3. a social order in which property is held in common by the community or the state; communalism. [

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by skywalker1974 (No verified email address)	02 Aug 2004
hi,im from canada.these photos just goes to prove that the usa has been taken over by a police state bassed on a pile of lies perpatrated by your own government,i feel sorry for the average american,in my contry next door to you i have never in 30 years of my life,i have never gone throgh even one security checkpoint .think about that next time you sing your national anthem,land of the free,yah right!!!

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Ukr (No verified email address)	02 Aug 2004
Their S.S. style helmets just look so nice, like some fascist regime.

my thoughts:
by romunov (No verified email address)	02 Aug 2004
How long? Not long, cuz what you reap, is what you sow!

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Jon (No verified email address)	02 Aug 2004
Pathetic, simply pathetic.....Canada is looking nicer every day. Dodger

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by nitemere (No verified email address)	02 Aug 2004
Listen folks the Democratic National Convention is over. Sure security had to be tight. So what is the problem? Now everyone remembers SEPTEMBER 11,2001. So the extra security is there so everyone never forgets.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Ricardo (No verified email address)	02 Aug 2004
Could these photos be any clearer? Everytime you vote and pay taxes YOU are enabeling the greatest war mongering machine in history. Government is FORCE and nothing else and they are willing to turn inward by creating a domestic enemy{you)or terrorize the world to just to keep the power and money flowing. Think the answer is Kerry or Bush, Demo's, Republicans or anyother bullshit party pushing for a new world order? They all belong to the same club and drink cocktails over the bodies of dead children in Waco or Baghdad. They won't shed a tear over you if you get in the way. Want more stormtroopers on your doorstep? The only humane answer is NO! Get the bastards off your back and regain your freedom using the simple logic of a child. First step: Stop paying taxes and voting for the Feds. They can't terrorise you without money can they! Now that wasn't complicated was it!

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Jerry jkew (nospam) compuserve.com (unverified)	02 Aug 2004
"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy" ~ James Madison

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by tim (No verified email address)	02 Aug 2004
'John' down the bottom of the page hits the nail on the head. I remember the newscasts from the 80's showing the KGB videotaping demonstrations in the bad ol' USSR. It was always held up to us as proof of their sinister intent. Imagine not being able to protest without being filmed! Nowadays we know better. It turns out it's just crime prevention. And the KGB never got so much Darth-armor either. Comes of being poor communists I guess (though have you checked your budget deficit recently? And you thought communism was inefficient!)

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Yank in OZ (No verified email address)	02 Aug 2004
INSTRUCTIONS: 1. Make sure your passport is current while you can still slip somewhat silently across the Canadian and Mexican borders. 2. Check the intercontinental flight schedules leaving out of Canada and Mexico.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Terry Gabrich jeramiah10 (nospam) core.com (unverified)	02 Aug 2004
This looks very familiar. Back when I was in the National Guard I use to train with the use of the batan. I use to train in civil disturbance, which is one of the area's that the National Guard is used for. I've also done MOUT (Military Operations under Urban Terrain), and had to train against snipers and terrorists. When I was in Saudi Arabia with the National Guard for 5 and 1/2 months, I continually trained in MOUT and riot situations. In 135 degree's I also protected a PAT site.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by adap2k (No verified email address)	02 Aug 2004
see more pics at these sites. Photos from DNC Monday evening (170 photos) Tuesday evening (105 photos) Wednesday evening (92 photos) Thursday evening (143 photos) http://boston.indymedia.org/newswire/display/25401/index.php krysalist: Police State http://www.livejournal.com/users/krysalist/100637.html Search the Boston IMC web site for photos http://boston.indymedia.org/mod/search/dosearch/index.php?dosearch=1&med

Army was there?
by Jersh (No verified email address)	02 Aug 2004
Is this the army or the National Guard. something something posse comitatus act something something June 18, 1878 CHAP. 263 - An act making appropriations for the support of the Army for the fiscal year ending June thirtieth, eighteen hundred and seventy-nine, and for other purposes. SEC. 15. From and after the passage of this act it shall not be lawful to employ any part of the Army of the United States, as a posse comitatus, or otherwise, for the purpose of executing the laws, except in such cases and under such circumstances as such employment of said force may be expressly authorized by the Constitution or by act of Congress; and no money appropriated by this act shall be used to pay any of the expenses incurred in the employment of any troops in violation of this section And any person willfully violating the provisions of this section shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and on conviction thereof shall be punished by fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars or imprisonment not exceeding two years or by both such fine and imprisonment. 10 U.S.C. (United States Code) 375 Sec. 375. Restriction on direct participation by military personnel: The Secretary of Defense shall prescribe such regulations as may be necessary to ensure that any activity (including the provision of any equipment or facility or the assignment or detail of any personnel) under this chapter does not include or permit direct participation by a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps in a search, seizure, arrest, or other similar activity unless participation in such activity by such member is otherwise authorized by law. 18 U.S.C. 1385 Sec. 1385. Use of Army and Air Force as posse comitatus Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both. Editor's Note: The only exemption has to do with nuclear materials (18 U.S.C. 831 (e)

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Jig (No verified email address)	02 Aug 2004
What a bunch of crud; this is all for sensationalism and scare mongering. You don't need an army of goofy looking cops to stop terrorists, its not like their going to run screaming into the building yelling Alluha Akbar. Security checks are the only thing that will work; all of this behaviour is useless against terrorist attacks.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Booga Booga mooseontheloose (nospam) yahoo.com (unverified)	02 Aug 2004
Booga Booga is the only way GW can get "reselected". All that stupid looking police gear...think of the money spent on it, and what that money could buy; police forces around the country short of equipment & manpower, due to The threat-Liberation-is it a new reason today? Iraq. You know...the people who end in I (Iraqi), that got confused with Saudi (the people responsible for 9/11?) One more comment on "Booga Booga", and the "terrist" threats against NY. Al Quaida HATES GEORGE BUSH. Anyone who thinks they would launch a "terrist" attack before the elections is A FOOL (to put it mildly). On second thought, maybe they should start distributing that gear across the country when GW attempts to steal another election. I think it may be needed.

Get ready.
by Prophet's_Profit (No verified email address)	02 Aug 2004
America was born from a revolution, and it will die in one. What we are seeing now in this country has gone on since long before I was born, and shall continue. For those of you who think this is merely 'scare tactics' and 'sensationalism'...well...I hope you are right. But I think, for those of us who can read and write ( which is a TRUE minority of us in America )...its fairly obvious that something disgraceful, ugly, and quite sinister is going on in the world right now. At this point, its way too late to stop anything. You can be a peaceful demonstrator, or a raging idiot. I have to agree with a few other posters above - if you have the means to get a weapon, do it...and soon. Keep it locked away. Hide it. Cause already, they are starting to force people to give up yet another constitutional right, the Right to Bear Arms. Buy it, hide it, and get ready. Cause before you know it, America is going to die the same way She was born, and probably sooner than you think. And that leaves you with two options - sit locked away in your house, or the NEW Free Speech Zone ( Guantanamo ), and cry through the final days...or make your stand with your fellow Americans. Regardless, Her days are numbered.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Joe Smo why (nospam) tellu.com (unverified)	02 Aug 2004
Do you think these guys would beat the living daylights out of thier own friends and neighbors? I do.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Boris boris (nospam) yahoo.com (unverified)	02 Aug 2004
Hitler & Stalin would have been proud of it!!

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Vladimir Stwora editor (nospam) zvedavec.org (unverified)	03 Aug 2004
Link to this site appeared on Czech language Nazi, antisemitic, rasist web. Congratulations, asshole. Osama luvs ya too !!

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Griffin (No verified email address)	03 Aug 2004
This is very true. America will, from my educated judgement, again see the glory and misery of revolution. But it will not be the end, if we are fortunate, yet a new beginning. In the paraphrased words of that great statesman, Thomas Jefferson, from time-to-time the Tree of Liberty MUST be watered... and it can only flourish on the blood of tyrants. There are far too many tyrants, as is evident from these photos from the national convention of what is supposed to be the PEOPLE's party. Perhaps the time is drawing near for the American people to re-establish their freedom.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Chris Marco Ctowndet (nospam) aol.com (unverified)	03 Aug 2004
Very nice photos......I'm sure the majority of people who participated in the rallies were in there early twenties. It would appear that most college kids attend these rallies and grow up to become exactly what they protested against. I'm sure there were some legitimate protests going on but I do feel the police showing up in full force was necessary. People comment on their black uniforms as Draconian or Darth Vader like. If they were all in white they would be the angels of death. Regardless what they were people are going to throw up road blocks. I'm sure some people were not happy but when you look at how many arrests were made (fewer than 8) for the entire week I'd say it was a success from both parties. People worry too much about other countries and what other people think rather than what's really wrong with this country. It's division and lack of morals and standards. Freedom is democracy is a good thing but despite all the gains we have made in racial equality the opposite is now happening. It appears now that having black colleges are totally acceptable while a all white college is not. We can use Morhouse for example. We have the Latin Awards, The Esence Awards which celebrates African American achievments. We certainly cannot have the White Awards because that would be going over the top. Is it only me that sees things falling apart? Forget unity people will never be satisfied with what they have. Everybody needs their own thing. It's so frustrating to see people with bumper stickers that say "Free Tibet" when you can pretty much turn on every other major city corner and see a homeless person on our own soil regardless of their color. It confuses the heck out of me because this would appear to be something we can fix but we choose to handle stuff that is out of our grasp. I'm sure I may get a few comments for this but what the fuck is wrong with us a people and a country. Lets fix what's here and then we can look elsewhere to offer aid.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by George Jimenez gjorgejimenez (nospam) aol.com (unverified)	03 Aug 2004
You'd better believe the police state started way before Dubya took the wheel. It actually started with an elitist conspiracy for world domination; to an Anglo-Saxon-American-Superiority conspiracy to bring America back under the English Crown; To Prescott Bush, his father in law, George Herbert Walker and other big names conspiring with that Aryan superiority; to George Herbert Walker Bush sleeping with the enemy, including Iran-Contra, and as well as stacking the deck by appointing numerous federal judges; to Dubya so ruthlessly riding on the Patriot Act through Rummy's connections at Abu Ghrai; and featuring all those Bush boys carrying on that same family tradition--or whether it be Marvin in charge of security at all the air ports where those passenger jets were hijacked from on 9/11/2001, or Jeb blocking e-vote regulations in Florida, or Neil's typical Bush white colar crime(savings & loan)tricks, or uncles Willian Bush and Prescott Bush Jr. making huge profits off the war in Iraq; and right along side Halliburton and uncle Dick that is. AND DON'T FORGET ALL THOSE UNANSWERED 9/11 QUESTIONS, NOR DUBYA AND UNCLE DICK BOTH CONSULTING WITH CRIMINAL ATTORNEYS REGARDING THE CIA LEAK INVESTIGATION. You'd better believe that police state started way before Dubya took the wheel.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Mister Ray wotan1 (nospam) rocketmail.com (unverified)	03 Aug 2004
Even just a few years ago, photos like these would be sluffed off as some sort of wide-eyed paranoid work of science fiction... Now it seems the only "fiction" here is in the belief that there can ever be some sort of turning back. As a nation, the United States seems to be heading down a slippery slope into becoming "a very different place". Is there anything left that the "common man" can even do at this point to reverse this trend?

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by griffster (No verified email address)	03 Aug 2004
I love mothra's comments. Ditto.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Libby Buck (No verified email address)	03 Aug 2004
George Orwell was right. You are all going to be arrested and "reintegrated" for your thought-crimes.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Libby Buck (No verified email address)	03 Aug 2004
Get over it Homeland Security - the Weather Underground broke up more than 30 years ago!

Hate to break it to you
by Brendan (No verified email address)	03 Aug 2004
but you will see the exact same thing in Canada as I have participated in demonstrations in Toronto and seen the phalanxes of black-uniformed armoured police officers (plus police on horseback) and officers filming the demonstration from buildings.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Fountainhead (No verified email address)	03 Aug 2004
Like Obi Wan Kenobi said there are other ways to fight. The powers that may be have drawn thier line in the sand, and it's high fucking time We the People draw ours. It's called a Peoples Petition for Redress of grievances regarding the governments violation of the taxing, war powers, privacy and money clauses of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Until the government responds to Petitions they are nothing more than rogue thugs and we don't have to give them a dime of our money, that is our RIGHT. Bob Shultz gave a wonderful history regarding Petition for Redress on C-span recently and his organization has just filed a landmark lawsuit against our government for this very matter. The goverment is trying to create confrontation on thier terms people so don't get sucked into it, the place to fight is in the courts not on the street. Direct your energy there and the government will be forced to fight on our terms. To learn more about Petition for Redress and this historic lawsuit visit www.givemeliberty.org

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Shmarble shmarble (nospam) baleedat.com (unverified)	03 Aug 2004
You can baleedat?

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by HERBIE BEEJ LULUOPP (nospam) HOTMAIL.COM (unverified)	03 Aug 2004
So how do they get all that stuff off to go to the toilet? Looks like a bunch of Morris dancers....

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by st just (No verified email address)	03 Aug 2004
Those are some very stupid and cowardly looking sobs they got on the BPD.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Jude Moriarty Noahshouse (nospam) adelphia.net (unverified)	03 Aug 2004
Gee I was thinking maybe after these Ninja Warriors get down putting down the attack of the puppets-placard carrying students-costumed butterflies-and grandmas singing Peac on Earth maybe they could send this body armour off to our guys in a REAL war---who are having their families having to buy flak jackets-and protect themselves with sandbags! WHAT a joke-but propaganda and a few agent provaceuteurs can work wonders in instilling fear....works everytime!! j

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by jomama (No verified email address)	03 Aug 2004
"the STATE is a threat to all LIFE!" I couldn't have said it better. What more needs to be said?

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Danilo (No verified email address)	03 Aug 2004
Very impressive

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by David sicks franklin_6 (nospam) msn.com (unverified)	03 Aug 2004
Bush job-creation plan

MIB -GALAXY PROTECTORS
by William Smith bigwilly (nospam) freshprince.com (unverified)	03 Aug 2004
They are the men in black...galaxy protectors!

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Rob robbiecochran (nospam) yahoo.com (unverified)	03 Aug 2004
"Does this body armor make my ass look fat?"

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Cathy cjc897han (nospam) hotmail.com (unverified)	03 Aug 2004
While all this is surely upsetting, remember that true freedom comes from "within". That may not seem too assuring in this scary time, but that kind of freedom can never be taken no matter how many fences or cages they build (they might take my life but they will never have my soul). Since the Bankers gained control of this country thru the enactment of the Federal Reserve (not federal or a reserve)in 1913 we have been deceived by a world of illusion, lost our land, (who actually OWNS their home? not many),and have watched as big business and our Gov't officials bed together . The U.S. will collapse quickly. Its too late to save this system, Its run its course and it ran Off Course. We can keep "writing to our congressmen", write editorials, etc, but it just doesn't seem to matter..."They" have all their ducks in a row...maybe it is time to starting making a new blueprint for our country. And I hope the first things we get rid of are: Income Taxes, Federal Reserve, and Big Business funding our gov't officials....then and only then will this country be able to work with other nations for peace.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by jim jimo0719 (nospam) yahoo.com (unverified)	04 Aug 2004
Gestapo?

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by qhaddie qhaddie321 (nospam) hotmail.com (unverified)	04 Aug 2004
Funny. I don't see anyone rioting. I guess these nice policemen are just there to make nice with the crowd

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Jason (No verified email address)	04 Aug 2004
Damn Nazi's If you see a group of masked figures looting small shops, burning cars, and endangering your children, get their badge numbers! They are cops. Hey these facist cops don't have badges?!?

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Gats (No verified email address)	04 Aug 2004
I live in the city and work as a civilian for the BPD. My friend is a cop and had to work 16 hour shifts seven days straight prior to and during the event. These guys aren't involved in some dark conspiracy. They are regular people who were ordered by the Mayor to work all week and in riot gear because 50,000+ protesters were expected on a daily basis. The cops weren't beating and shooting anyone. They were there in case any rioting or public disorder started. And the reason they are wearing that gear is because they didnt want to get hit with fecal matter or urine. What do you people want? I'm not being sarcastic, I mean that genuinely. You blame these cops as if they are part of some grand Orwellian scheme, when they are just regular guys who get absolutely no respect for the dangerous jobs they do every day. Yeah, there are some bad cops out there, just like there are some bad protesters, and bad politicians. Stop blaming the wrong people for the problems we face in society. I'd like to hear some of your suggestions as to how security should have been handled during the event. Also, on a side note, I share your frustration with the current situation. The candidate who wants to create a federal liveable wage and universal medicare isn't even allowed to debate. I've been following all the independent new sites prior to and after 9/11 and am well versed in all the lies the govt shoves down our throats. The election of 2000 was blatantly rigged, and everyone just sat on their thumbs. Absolutely nothing was done. Bush completely rigged Florida and nobody did anything. He went right into office. Where were all the protesters then? Why weren't thousands of people flooding the streets then? And where has all this anarchy/underground movement talk gotten us? Bush cheated his way into office, lied to start a war, finished his entire four-year term, and is poised to start another. All this talk has gotten the country nowhere and will get it nowhere in the future. It is frustrating, but it is fact.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by JILL ALLEN ALLENBMB44 (nospam) AOL.COM (unverified)	04 Aug 2004
I HATE GEORGE BUSH AND I AM SUPPORTING JOHN KERRY. I LIVE HERE IN BOSTON AND WAS AT THE CONVENTION, NOT INSIDE, BUT JUST OBSERVING OUTSIDE FOR ONE DAY AND ONE AFTERNOON. THE REST OF THE TIME I WAS AT HOME WATCHING CHANNEL SEVEN OUR LOCAL NBC AFFILIATE. I CAN SAY WITH ALL CANDOR THAT THE POLICE USED AMAZING RESTRAINT. I WAS VERY SURPRISED AS THE DAYS WERE HOT AND THERE WERE SO MANY DEMONSTRATORS THAT EVEN I, LONG ON PATIENCE AND SYMPATHETIC TO THEIR CAUSE WOULD HAVE LIKED TO PUNCH SOME OF THEM. I AM NOT A FAN OF MY FREEDOMS BEING CHIPPED AWAY, BUT THE POLICE WERE VERY PROFESSIONAL

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by ALICIA SIMMONS SIMMONSALICIA (nospam) AOL.COM (unverified)	04 Aug 2004
WE ARE BEING TURNED INTO A POLICE STATE........ AND MOSTLY BECAUSE OF LIES, OR MANIPULATING THE FACTS. ALICIA SIMMONS

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by floyd (No verified email address)	04 Aug 2004
I'm so sick of the lesser of two evis bullshit. Kerry and Bush are both elitist pricks. Vote for someone who isn't the lesser of evils and change will come.

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by gani gani_alonto (nospam) yahoo.com (unverified)	04 Aug 2004
They look like robotcops... Is peace and order getting worse in Boston?

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by eb notarealemail (nospam) fake.com (unverified)	05 Aug 2004
I see alot of folks saying they will vote for Kerry just cuz he is not as bad as Bush. There is very little difference between the two. Please consider voting Libertarian and maybe we can remove both the corrupt parties from the white house and give America back to the people. Please consider Michael Badnarik for President and visit badnarik.org. The only wasted vote is one for a candidate you do not believe in or trust. Do you really trust Bush or Kerry???? eb

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Dorine Pratt pratt_timothy_lee (nospam) sbcglobal.net (unverified)	05 Aug 2004
Gee...if I saw men outfitted like these...it certainly would inhibit my feelings about protesting in any way!

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by Harriet Tubman fbrown (nospam) mgm.com (unverified)	05 Aug 2004
THE WORST PART ABOUT ALL OF THIS IS THAT BUSH WILL RIG THE VOTERS AGAIN AND PROBABLY GET RE-ELECTED. THE MASSESS ARE ASSESS! WE SHOULD HAVE HIT THE STREETS THE FIRST TIME BUSH CHEATED ELECTIONS. THIS ISN'T AMERICA ANYMORE. I'M AFRAID CHANGE WON'T COME UNTIL THE MASSESS HAVE FELT SOME PAIN. MORE FAKE TERRORIST ATTACKS ON THEIR OWN CITIZENS IN AMERICA!!! DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE. BUSH IS GONNA BUSHWACK YA AGAIN. WHEN THE MASSESS ARE READY WE WILL HAVE TO BOYCOTT THE IRS AND EVERY MAJOR CORPORATION. WHAT IF WE STOPPED BUYING ALL THEIR SHIT???? WORKS FOR ME :)

Re: PHOTOS of ever expanding police state
by trodas bbone (nospam) seznam.cz (unverified)	08 Aug 2004
Holly shit! Talk about US as land of freedom once more to me! I can't believe why US peoples did keep goverment that suppresing the citisen rights (rigth to free speech mainly) so much. God bless America.

Re: MORE PHOTOS OF HOW THE POLICE STATE STARTED

by RexCurry.net
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15 Aug 2004

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It is amazing how close the U.S. came and is still coming to the socialist trio of atrocities:

The National Socialist German Workers' Party slaughtered 21 million, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics slaughtered 62 million killed; and the People's Republic of China slaughtered 35 million. (numbers from Professor R. J. Rummel's article in the Encyclopedia of Genocide (1999) also available on Amazon). And don't forget Cambodia, Cuba, etc. The Holocaust was monstrous, but it was a part of the entire socialist "Wholecaust" which killed even more.

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