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Commentary :: DNC
Hacktivism Does Us More Harm than Good
26 Aug 2004
If you are going to throw rocks, don't use radical publishers as shields.
Recent calls have gone out encouraging activists to join cyber attacks against websites associated with the RNC. As any of us with radical websites knows, right-wingers have been waging cyber warfare against our websites since 9/11. While it may seem logical, reasonable and even just to return the fire, I’d like to point out some major flaws in the notion that hacktivism benefits us.

Most hactivists do not host radical online journals, newsources and magazines. The same is true for the right-wing cyber vigilantes attacking us. Calls ostensibly aligned with one political facet that call for attacking the websites of another political facet are nearly always met with retaliation. Dealing with retaliation is what one should expect, however the targets of the retaliation are not the sources of the attacks. The targets are the owners of radical online journals who are usually unpaid for their online work and who donate their time to keep their journals electronically available to the public. These hacktivists, by calling for attacks against right-wing online publications provoke vigilante attacks, in “return”, upon left-wing online publications. Since the left-wing online publications (and I’m not talking about IndyMedia), have not put out any such call, they become innocent targets of better financed, FBI protected online attacks. Meanwhile, the hacktivists that put out the call to start the cyber war, do absolutely nothing to assist the left-wing publications suffering the “retaliation.”

All of this adds up to pure annoyance and childish games.

From a philosophical perspective, an online publication is often the ONLY solid copy of a publication. When it is taken town, it is as if all copies of a book were burned at once. This kind of act against an online publication is no different than Hitler’s book burning tirades. If we believe in an open society where all people are free to read what they choose, why to we support attacks upon publications we disagree with? It is one thing to attack the state – it is another to attack free speech.

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Re: Hacktivism Does Us More Harm than Good
26 Aug 2004
BRAVO!!!! Zapata always followed a simple rule. Never openly attack an opponent untill you are utterly convinced that you will prevail.

And aside from tactical considerations, WE enjoy free speech on the internet and everywhere in the USA, we must respect this right of everyone to speak their minds or we run the danger of becoming perceived as the censors ourselves, and they the oppressed.
Re: Hacktivism Does Us More Harm than Good
27 Aug 2004
Hack HAARP! Hack the government. DON'T HACK NEWS SITES!
I get more worms, trojans and viruses from news sites! (Norton catches them.)
Get a real job. Shit, if you can write code? You can make real cash! And give it to a good cause!
Re: Hacktivism Does Us More Harm than Good
27 Aug 2004
Retaliation and backtracing of all hacking activity is already underway. Data is being compiled and the repurcussions of publishing the call to hack right wing sites and publications will result in the closure of sites which supported it.

Steve is right in saying that those "Hactivists" dont have anything to lose. It has been determined that they do not have a base from which to launch their attacks, and the only ones left are online sites such as the IMC network and other sites. He is also right that those retaliatory attacks are being protected by the FBI. It would have been proven more prudent to censor those calls for hacking than to censor the warnings against them, and the coming weeks will demonstrate the folly of the censors.


Pete, cant you be more specific with your reason for hiding this little response? I dont see anything disruptive in it, nor does it "violate the principles of unity". Does "other" mean that you are simply unable to justify your censorship? If you hide it again, I will simply repost it over and over and over again.
Re: Hacktivism Does Us More Harm than Good
27 Aug 2004
Sorry persistent. I guess I jumped the gun on that one... your reputation precedes you. I will try to be more careful in the future
Thanks, Pete. I will try to be less abrasive in the future.
27 Aug 2004
Im really not a troll, but Im definitely a right wing (your expletive here). Thank you for letting the message remain. You gotta train this old dog, dude!
Re: Hacktivism Does Us More Harm than Good
27 Aug 2004
I am not an anonymous cyber thug. I get emails from IMC all the time. My email is verified. I routinely post my web address which also has my facial picture. I hand out Haters Magazine at local protests and then I tell people where I have been.

This is beside the point. The point is you are using a computer, which makes being a Luddite void. No thesis can serve as its own refutation. Why would I oppose hacktivism If I were a hacktivist? Before you think up a Rube Goldberg Machine answer, remember Ockham's Razor.

Technology is good. Technology is useful. It also serves as a prosthesis for the mentally inept, as you know. It is good to maintain the functionality of the web. Those "companies" you are always attacking provide things like Internet Web Page protocols. Things you hold so dear.