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Come On Out And Sing
11 Apr 2005
Sit-in planned.
I've been preaching to the choir, now it's time for the choir to get out there and sing.

Sit-in for peace!

Calling all anarchists, socialists, liberals, commies, hippies, progressives, atheists, and others. No republicans or democrats, please.

Saturday, April 16, at Boston Common. 2-4 pm.

Between the two entrances to the Park St. Station on the green line.

Bring signs, T-shirts, and friends.

I'll be there. If anybody wants to help, feel free to join me. If not, I'll still be there; a voice calling out in the wilderness.

If more than one person shows up, we'll make this a recurring event. We can meet every saturday. If more than 1,000 people show up, we will take it into the streets.

Stand up for what you believe in! Don't be afraid to speak your mind, even if your voice shakes.

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Re: Come On Out And Sing
11 Apr 2005
1. what kind of songs are you singing?
2. how in the world is this a sit in?
Re: Come On Out And Sing
11 Apr 2005
1. We're not singing any songs. It's a figurative expression. Everyone is accusing me of preaching to the choir, so I'm inviting the choir to come out and "sing". i.e. Make themselves heard. If the concept of figurative expressions eludes you, then you are either a republican or a democrat.

2. It's a sit-in because I will be sitting in between the two entrances to the Park St. Station in order to call attention to my cause.
Re: Come On Out And Sing
12 Apr 2005
how to organize a public protest:

1. don't actually talk to anyone and don't actually do any initial planning.
2. post a call on boston IMC instead.
3. in the subject line, say you're gonna "sing," even though you secretly know this is figurative. this will ensure that only people who are looking for people to sing with will click on it.
4. say that you are using a specific tactic (in this case, a sit-in) that you will not be using. then triviliaze the tactic if confused people ask you about it ("It's a sit-in because I will be sitting").
5. be rude to people who make the effort to understand what the fuck you are saying (best simpsons comic book store guy voice: "If the concept of figurative expressions eludes you then you...")
6. make completely random accusations ("...then you are either a republican or a democrat.")
7. let people know that it might just be you and them, and you're tactless enough to sit around shouting at people in public.
8. explicitly invite hippies.
Re: Come On Out And Sing
13 Apr 2005
oh (at) shalom.com
I thought you were really menaing lets get together and sing!

will u really be doing this (sitting down by park street)? where else are you posting/ asking for help in gathering people? the above writer "Um" is a tad harsh on yer ass, but right in that you will need to get the discription and point clearly articulated in a few sentances so folks can get engaged by your idea... re-write? re-post? ask around..

be well, be in touch
yer sister
in Peace
Re: Come On Out And Sing
13 Apr 2005
Um,
1. This is not an officially organized protest, this is one individual acting up and inviting others to join him.
2. I've posted this in quite a number of places, IMC is lucky enough to be one of those.
3. "People with whom to sing." Prepositions are not used to end a phrase.
4. So what is the official, Webster-authorized defintion of sit-in?
5. I'm a cynical old man, I'm rude to everyone. Don't take it personally.
6. I apologize. What are you?
7. I won't be shouting. In fact, I won't be saying anything. I'll just be sitting there.
8. I'd rather hang out with hippies than SUV-driving, machiatto-sipping, "troop-supporting", rich Americans.

Amatul,
I'll be there. I don't know if anyone else will.
Re: Come On Out And Sing
13 Apr 2005
Sholom,

"This is up one individual acting." Doesn't sound right, does it? The prepositions rule, as well as the split-infinitives rule, were actually grafted onto formal English grammar by scholars in the Middle Ages because they decided that the language would be somehow higher or more elite if if followed more of the rules of Latin. Languages always grow and evolve--it's why we're not writing this in Old English--and they evolve through usage, tending toward ever greater communicative efficacy. The thou-shalt-not-end-phrases-with-prepositions edict, which has held on as the language evolves around it in part due to that rather arbitrary codification by self-appointed language elites, is finally being slowly bulldozed under the progress of the living tongue. On the level of deep structures, what's happening is that those prepositions are becoming more and more directly incorporated into the verb of which they are modifying the meaning (act up; sing with; show up; shit upon; think of), and thus that's the position they're showing up in. I mean, the position in which they're showing up. Errr... the position up in which they're showing. See what violence the masters have done to our languages?

That all said, it is nice to know right off the bat that it's one person inviting others to join; given the context (IMC) and certain conventions you used (Calling all...; Bring signs...; Sit-in...) it did seem like you were trying to organize a "protest" and were hoping to get numbers of people to show up. I mean, you were hoping to get numbers of people up to show. That was why I criticized your methodology so harshly.

As for "sit-in," I don't care much about the Webster-approved definition, but as far as the living tongue goes, by using the word "sit-in" you're calling up a specific history in which that tactic was developed and deployed in popular struggle: the sit-down strikes of the auto industry from the 30s on, the public-space struggles against racial segregation that chose to adopt the same tactic, and all the other times and places people have "sat in" and called it that.

And really, when you use phrases like

"I've been preaching"
"get out there and sing"
"a voice calling out"
"Don't be afraid to speak"
"even if your voice shakes"
"Make themselves heard"
"call attention"

it's going to come as a big surprise to, oh, about 99% of your readers when you say

"In fact, I won't be saying anything. I'll just be sitting there."

Good luck I guess. Sorry for the harsh tone before.