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20 May 2005
Wake Up. Iraq wasn't the only lie George told. 911 was carried out by the Mossad with U.S. high governmental Zionist, Talmudic help. NOT THE ARABS. Congress is so dominated by THEM, they passed a resolution claiming the Noahide laws are the founding principles of the U.S. , without even knowing what the Noahide laws are. Evidence is presented that ties this to the Oklahoma bombing. ADL had a hand in this. Read for yourself the wrenching story of a Veteran. Topping it off is Ariel Sharon saying Israel controls the US, Maybe not D. Pipes?and his Council of Foreign Relations??? Maybe not..
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Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 11:16:55 -0700


Subject: Re: C-Span to rebroadcast historic Griffin UW-Madison speech Saturday at 2:30 ET

To: "Kevin Barrett"

Thank you for sending this through... Also, take a look at how Ken Auletta (of the New Yorker magazine) cowardly avoided answering the question/comment (in the 'Q & A' of the following panel discussion) about the Likudnik (JINSA/CSP/PNAC) Neocons and how they took us to war in Iraq for Israel as conveyed in James Bamford's new book ('A Pretext for War') and in Pat Buchanan's 'Whose War?' article ( http://www.amconmag.com/03_24_03/cover.html ) as both were mentioned (this panel discussion on the media with Ken Auletta and Arianna Huffington - who also was too cowardly to even answer the question/comment - will also repeat broadcast this coming Saturday - May 7th, 2005 - on C-SPAN 2 at 7 AM on the west coast of the USA and at 10:00 AM on the east coast and can be viewed via computer as well using the C-SPAN 2 broadcast link near the bottom of www.c-span.org ):


http://www.booktv.org/General/index.asp?segID=5722&schedID=362&category=

Be sure to watch the 'Get Iran' propaganda spewed by Jerome Corsi this Saturday as well (see the following schedule URL for times as simply subtract three hours for broadcast time on the west coast of the USA):

http://www.booktv.org/schedule/index.asp?schedID=362


http://gorillaintheroom.blogspot.com/2005/04/sales-pitch-begins-iran.htm


A Zionist War:

http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=33993

Kevin Barrett wrote:

MUJCA-NET is pleased to announce that C-Span will rebroadcast
David Ray Griffin's Madison, Wisconsin lecture again, this Saturday,
May 7th, at 1:30PM CST (2:30 PM East Coast, 11:30 AM
West Coast). Here is the announcement directly from C-span's website.

http://www.booktv.org/General/index.asp?segID=5677&schedID=362

This rebroadcast of the show at a more accessible time slot by a major
cable
network may indicate the tide is turning for 9/11 truth. Prior to this
Madison,
Wisconsin event organized by MUJCA-NET, no major national media outlet
had been willing to air the evidence and interpretations presented by
the
9/11 truth movement during the past four and a half years. If this
C-Span broadcast
causes ONE mainstream journalistic outlet to devote significant
investigative resources
to the massive anomalies in the official account of 9/11, it will be
seen in
retrospect as a a history-steering event.

If you didn't get a chance to see it the first time around, and you
can't wait until Saturday, you can watch it here online (WMV video):

http://www.911blogger.com/2005/04/proper-release-of-griffin-in-
madison.html

Or listen to the audio here (mp3):
http://www.septembereleventh.org/documents/drg_cspan.mp3

And lastly, here is sone mainstream news coverage the original event:
http://www.septembereleventh.org/newsarchive/2005-04-19-
GriffinWiStJrnl.php
http://www.septembereleventh.org/newsarchive/2005-04-19-
GriffinCapitalTimes.php

Thanks to Emanuel at septembereleventh.org for the above urls.

Sincerely,

Kevin Barrett
Coordinator, MUJCA-NET: Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11
Truth: http://mujca.com

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You might be interested in watching/listening to how Thomas Friedman replied to the mention about that media panel (referenced above) and the Likudnik Neocons by the first viewer telephone call for him during his 'In Depth' appearance on C-SPAN 2 this past Sunday:

http://www.booktv.org/feature/index.asp?segid=5669&schedID=343

Also, it was interesting to see Los Angeles Times ('War on Terror') reporter Terry McDermott affirmed comments during the 'Covering War' panel that US support for Israel was the primary motivation for the tragic 9/11 attack:

http://www.booktv.org/misc/la_festival_043005.asp#saturday


Los Angeles Times Reporter (Terry McDermott) courageously admits that US Middle East Policy Motivation for 9/11 Attack (on C-SPAN 2 this Saturday - tomorrow):

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=33754

Also, take a look (if you would like to via the above URL) how the Panel: Lies, Deceit, & Cover-ups also ignored comments/question about the Likudnik (JINSA/CSP/PNAC) Neocons.


Here is a link to the Eric Alterman article (from 'The Nation') which was made reference to:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=33428

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Excellent. Pass that speech on. We all need more people like this fellow to tell it like it is......

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Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 10:24 pm Post subject: Odigo says workers were warned of attack

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http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=77744&contras




Odigo says workers were warned of attack

By Yuval Dror

Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen, and the company has been cooperating with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the FBI, in trying to find the original sender of the message predicting the attack.

Micha Macover, CEO of the company, said the two workers received the messages and immediately after the terror attack informed the company's management, which immediately contacted the Israeli security services, which brought in the FBI.

"I have no idea why the message was sent to these two workers, who don't know the sender. It may just have been someone who was joking and turned out they accidentally got it right. And I don't know if our information was useful in any of the arrests the FBI has made," said Macover. Odigo is a U.S.-based company whose headquarters are in New York, with offices in Herzliya.

As an instant messaging service, Odigo users are not limited to sending messages only to people on their "buddy" list, as is the case with ICQ, the other well-known Israeli instant messaging application.

Odigo usually zealously protects the privacy of its registered users, said Macover, but in this case the company took the initiative to provide the law enforcement services with the originating Internet Presence address of the message, so the FBI could track down the Internet Service Provider, and the actual sender of the original message.

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Nothing to see here, move along now......

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There are some other interesting links to the Israel Mossad complicity and high Talmudic US Zionist officials in carrying out the 911 attack:

Bush lied about Iraq and 911!
by researcher Thursday, May. 19, 2005 at 1:51 AM


Bush lied about Iraq and 911. High U.S. Talmudic Zionist Officials were complicit with Israel's Mossad and worked together to create the New Pearl Habor for Zionist expansion. They dominate the Congress which recently celebrated that the Noahide laws were the basis of this country's independence.(see C. Valentine) for more on that.


Bush lied about reasons for attacking Iraq!
by researcher
(No verified email address) 15 May 2005
If you ask the question why, now that evidence is out that he did so, it will lead to a nightmare that I pray America can wake up from.
By researcher:

Many writers at Common dreams are outraged by the President cooking the facts on the reasons for invading Iraq. http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0513-20.htm

"He lied" Go one step further and ask yourself why?
This will take you to a nightmare. Hopefully we'll all wake up.

So why did he do this? It really does go all the way back to Iran's revolution. Iran shut the pumps on Israel's source of cheap oil. Israel's agents tried to get Argentina to take over the Falkland islands, but Britain wouldn't let go of a field that might be 10 times larger than the Middle East. (See reference 1 at bottom)
It's amazing that Army theorists crafted a Model plan of 9/11 attack in 1976 while Bush Senior was Central Intelligence director, and Rumsfield and Cheny held high office. (2) It amazing that they were in high office in 2001. The economy was slipping and there was much talk of voter fraud following the election.
In the summer of 2001 our government got warning from Israel that Bin Laden and Sadam Hussein were planning something big. Supposedly the Mossad were watching them inside this country. (Note from which country this warning came from!) Now who would benfit from an invasion of Iraq? (3)

President Bush, Jr. is admittedly born again and under the strong belief that Israel is the Holy land to be protected and defended at all costs. Instead of pressing Israel to let us know more about the upcoming attacks (by stopping all the billions in foreign aid), and thereby preventing them, he goes fishing. (4)

By now other high ranking officials friendly to Israel dominate the Bush administration. (5) And most major media outlets are strong supporters of Israel.(6)

When the attack came President Bush was listening to the children in school. Nobody moved him out, pdq, instead they acted as if there was no threat to him or the children, even though there were an undetermined number of hijacked planes in the air. Therefore I sadly say he knew and approved of what was going on.And so did many others in high places that failed to take action. NORAD.(7)

There are millions of independent internet investigators who show 911 inconsistences with the Official verson. David Ray Griffin summarizes them, and conlcudes in his book The New Prael Harbor that there was US government complicity in the attacks. (9) Recently C Span presented his ideas on tv.They can be seen at
http://www.911blogger.com/2005/04/proper-release-of-griffin-in-madison.h

=> http://911blogger.fileburst.com/videos/griffin_madison_full_155.wmv

=> http://911blogger.fileburst.com/videos/griffin_madison_full_25.wmv
It is my view that the Mossad were impersonating Arab hijackers, left a phony paper trail with the complicity of U.S. high ranking officials on the ground, and there are many others who support this view. (10) There were the cover up of the coverups, and FEMA was in NYC the night BEFORE it happened. There were warnings given by Odigo to Israeli citizens hours before the attacks, and only three Israelis died in the Trade Center. There was a missing number of high level executives invited to a bash by Warren Buffet out west at an Airforce base where the President was finally taken that day! There was an attack on the Pentagon that targeted the personnel offices of Army and Naval Chiefs who were responsible for uncovering the Pollard spy case and questioned the loyalty of dual based American Israeli officers, and the FBI took over the destruction of thier offices. There were controlled demolitions of the Trade Center buildings, Larry Silverstein admits building 7 was pulled. That crime scene was cleaned up and the steel shipped out before any determinations could be made of explosives. (12)



See http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/05/316611.shtml
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/04/315848.shtml
911-I trust the fireman who said they heard bombs going off in the towers
author: researcher
I beleive 911 was a conspiracy of high level administrative Zionists and the Mossad. I trust the firemen who were willing to lay down their lives to save others, and those that escaped said they heard bombs going off.



Evidence points to 911 was executed by Mossad, with High governmental Pro-Zionist help!
author: researcher
The Mossad carried out 911, with high governmental Pro Zionist help and Cover-up!
LEASE take the time to read this in its entirety!!

For years I believed the Official version of 911, including the Arab hijackers but now I believe the Arab hijackers were Mossad imposters, and they had Zionist high governmental help.

Mossad attacked on 911 with U.S. ProZionist Official Help 15.Apr.2005 04:57

,Zionists are the enemy. Not all Jews, especially the relatives of those killed in the 911 attack!!!

A few days ago http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ Aaron Klein reports that EU is calling Hamas, "freedom fighters."Mr. Sharon is reacting to this negative attention and U.S. pressure by trying to create a Palestinian state in Gaza, so that the Zionist" war on terrorism," war on Israelis neighbors, will continue, not withdraw, as there are so many rumors The US wants to pull out troops from Iraq. He's trying to buy time to get a US draft going, so the US will effectively help fight Iran.

Israel's had no reservations in sacrificing its own citizens in the past, the Israelis who dressed as Arabs not only killed British rulers, but also Israeli citizens. Israel also killed American allies in their attack on the U.S. Liberty.

Sharon thinks he can buy off the settlers with compensation, as Israel did with the survivors of the Liberty murders. Congress never investigated the case, nor demanded further explanation from Israel, despite the fact that Israelis have admitted to trying to sink the ship.

Given the fact that "terrorist" was coined by the British press to refer to the Israelis who dressed up as Arabs and bombed the King David hotel and given the long history of Mossad and Zionists even turning against their own allies (US Liberty) for the sake of the Israeli State I can understand Hamas saying they're freedom fighters, and that Israeli carried out 911.

Two books http://www.the7thfire.com/9-11/Pastore_Investigation_of_%209-11/chapter_

pieces the puzzle together, by showing how there were active Mossad agents in this country then, and many false flag operations. Other 200 Mossad agents were found with explosives in the Mexican Parliament, some with videos of the Sears Towers, some with nuclear U.S. Power plant plans, some posing as art students checking out Defense buildings.

Other glaring in discrepancies of the official 911 version ::Attars' passport was stolen and found blocks away from the Towers, the extremely impossible behavior of the "doubles in Florida, and Las Vegas, the demolition of building 7 by its owner Silverstein, the warnings to Odgio and only three deaths of Israelis in the disaster, one of which Daniel Levin , a member of Israel's top commando team, as a cover to throw suspicion away from Israel,(CNN doesn't have his name on thier list of those killed in the attack) shot with a gun brought through Logan airport owned by Israeli businessmen. The Pentagon was hit (probably a missile, (see for yourself the photographs in this book and on other 911 sites), to cover Pentagon involvement, no stand down action, the fact FEMA was in NY the night before, the put options showing somebody knew in Israel.

And http://www.antichristconspiracy.com/HTML%20Pages/AntichristConspiracyHTM
explains how infiltrated the government is with pro Zionist leaders. These 200 found Israeli Mossad agents were deported with the help of Michael Chertoff, an American with dual citizenship, born to first stweerdas of El Al. Seven of the so called highjackers from Saudi Arabia are alive. Someone else was doing this, someone who knew about remote control, and these planes were guided to their targets. Then the trade center was demolished with controlled demolitions and the evidence carted off pdq to do away with the evidence, by another Israeli company.

Other cases lead support, the imprisonment of Lt. Veerland, the Navy Lt who wrote down most of the attack sites three weeks before it happened, stating he didn't think Bin Laden was responsible, but "our brothers in faith." He noted the World Trade Center, Pentagon, Sears Towers?, Malaysia, Haidar among others.

Given the sex scandal of child abuse in Washington, many Congressmen and many higher ups in the administration, might have traded their votes and loyalties out of fear of blackmail. This even included the former President Bush. And how do you explain their perversion to visit Bohemian Grove and go through rituals like "The cremation of care"? Donning hoods and robes the elite jetsetters burn a body to throw away their cares before a tall Owl Statute. What about Trance Formation in America? All fiction?

All this was very convenient for Plans already under way to attack Afghanistan and Iraq. By duping Americans into fighting Moslems the Washington heads now have a green light to achieve Full Spectrum Dominance = World Control.

Zionists and Jesuits have entered into a plan to make Jerusalem the city of the earthly ruler, and Zionists may yet even double cross American interests by creating another financial depression through the manipulation of the privately owned Federal reserve banks who pay for the printing of money and then lend it back to the U.S. and other governments, thereby driving up the national debt, and through calling in foreign debtors to demand collateral, Western lands, signed by President Nixon)or carry out attacks to get American Jews to move back to Israel and having the President imitate martial law in this land.

They've placed the expansion of the State of Israel higher that the religion they profess. History shows the Mossad will kill innocent people, even their own.

The recent Tsunami may have prematurely started with a nuclear device, thereby getting rid of millions of their enemies, even Veerland's note mentions Malaysia.( see Joe Vialis) Veerland is now locked up in solitary confinement for child prostitution charges in Colorado and his interview notes says he knows some people who knew George Bush personally. (KNEW?)

Knowing Ariel Sharon blocked the escape of thousands in a massacre in the state of Israeli's interest, it's not impossible he'd ok the Mossad to act by deception to draw America in to fight Israel's greatest enemies( as it did in WW1. and WW2) We're now being told by him something has to be done about Iran. Latest I've read, a business man, Sarfraz Haidar was killed for selling 6 Russian KH-55 cruise missiles to Iran. These missiles are said to have a nuclear 200 killoton warhead and can travel 3000 kilometers.


about Zionist complicity: Zim International vacates WTCs 15.Apr.2005

Another point that has slipped off the collective 'map' of 9-11 is that the shipper/trader organization, Zim International, broke its lease in the days before 9-11. It vacated rather quickly.

What is interesting about Zim International is that it is a corporation half owned by the Israeli Government.

Another point that is interesting is that despite the cover being "rent was high," why loose $40,000 right then and there for breaking your lease? And is money really all that important when you are half owned by a subsidy-based state like the State of Israel?

EIGHT OTHER ZIONIST/MOSSAD SIGNS OF THEIR IMPLEMENTATION OF STRIKES OF 9-11

just grouping the posts: more here:

1. ISRAELIS were 9-11 short sale stock buyers, betting on WTC terror strikes, story killed...
00:40 Apr-11 (19 comments)
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/04/315296.shtml

2. Israel Honors Lavon Affair Terrorists Who Attacked U.S. in '54, attempted to blame "Arabs"
21:20 Apr-03 (2 comments)
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/04/314824.shtml

3. 9-11 False Flag Operation
author: Vicky
Link to a video This is a must see video.
"9/11 is an _Expression of a Deep and Abiding Crisis in the Capitalist
World Order: 9/11 a CIA- MOSSAD False Flag Operation," by Ralph Schoenman
911 PEOPLE'S INQUIRY SF, 2004, http://www.globalresearch.ca/ 18 February 2005
The URL of this article is:
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/SCH502A.html CLICK TO VIEW VIDEO
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/02/312329.shtml

4. newswire article reposts united states 11.Feb.2005 18:39
9.11 investigation
DID ISRAEL ATTACK THE UNITED STATES WITH CHERTOFF'S AID?
author: Phillip Yardley
It is a little known, but historical fact that Israel has attacked the United States several times. Yet, we now know that our New Homeland Security Chief helped Israel to do so.
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/02/310503.shtml

5. newswire article coverage united states 11.Feb.2005 18:24
9.11 investigation
NEW HOMELAND SECURITY CHIEF IN ALLIANCE WITH 9-11 TERRORIST
author: Dr. David Duke
There is hard, factual evidence that Michael Chertoff, the new Homeland Security Chief, has ties with the financiers of 9-11.
As incredible as this news may seem, it has now been revealed that the nominee of President Bush for the new Secretary of Homeland Security, Michael Chertoff, has ties with a man suspected of financing the 911 attacks, Dr. Magdy Elamir. There is also convincing evidence that Chertoff as head of the Criminal Division of the U.S. Justice Department shielded this financier of 911 from prosecution in a terrorist case.
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/02/310501.shtml

6. newswire article reposts united states 11.Dec.2004 05:05
9.11 investigation
Silverstein admits PRE-RIGGING WTC7 to "pull it" on 9-11; & 1 BLOCK OVER,collects insur.?!
author: pink elephant in the room watch
Price of false cover story on 9-11 getting bigger and bigger...as it frays thinner and thinner.
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/12/305694.shtml

7. newswire article announcements global 10.Nov.2004 06:43
9.11 investigation | media criticism | police / legal
Censored Fox News series available: MOSSAD trails/helps[?] false flag terrorists of 9-11
author: repost
Fox News Series On Israeli Spying NOW AVAILABLE INSTEAD OF ORIGINALLY CENSORED AFTER 9-11-01.
To rewrite history, the 4 part series that aired in December 2001 was even removed from Fox News so-called archives!
However, the documentary is still available from another source, below:
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/11/302926.shtml
and
FASCINATING THAT FOX NEWS EVEN HAD THIS WEBSITE REMOVE CARL CAMERON'S STORY, EH?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/spyring.htmll


the 1983 marine barracks bombing. They had foreknowledge then too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/By_Way_of_Deception
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Even some Israelis think their own government is in a Conspiracy 19.Apr.2005 00:02


Israel Clears Officer of Killing Journalist Who Had White Flag
By Donald Macintyre
The Independent UK
Friday 15 April 2005
The British government formally protested to Israel after the army officer who opened fire when the film-maker James Miller was shot dead in Gaza two years ago was acquitted of disciplinary charges.
The decision by the head of Israel's Southern Command to clear the officer overturned a recommendation by the military advocate general that he should be severely disciplined. Mr. Miller was killed in Rafah in 2003 while walking back to his lodgings displaying a white flag and clearly identifying himself to troops as a journalist.
The officer acquitted yesterday has admitted opening fire and a 79-page report by Brigadier-General Avihai Mandelblit, the advocate general, held that the first lieutenant in the Bedouin Desert Reconnaissance Battalion had fired in clear breach of army rules of engagement.
Mr. Miller's widow Sophy said the decision "makes a mockery of Israeli claims that they follow due process where IDF soldiers have acted criminally and outside their own rules of engagement".
Mr. Miller's family had been bitterly disappointed when they were told at a meeting with General Mandleblit in Tel Aviv last month that the officer would not be prosecuted because of a lack of ballistic evidence proving the bullet which killed Mr. Miller came from the officer's weapon. But they - and British officials - were assured that the advocate general was recommending a stiff disciplinary sentence.
Baroness Symons, the Foreign Office minister, has summoned Zvi Heifetz, the Israeli ambassador in London, on Monday to protest at the decision and urge that it be reversed, a message also strongly conveyed in a letter last night by Simon McDonald, the British ambassador in Tel Aviv, in a letter to Shaul Mofaz, Israel's Defence Minister.
Yesterday, Baroness Symons said she was "shocked and saddened" by the decision by the Brigadier-General Guy Tzur, the Southern Command chief of staff. The Israeli army said General Tzur decided that under the conditions then - including "frequent terrorist attacks; thick darkness and earlier that same day the soldiers were fired at by anti-tank missiles" - the shooting was "reasonable". The family's lawyers are seeking reversal of the decision. .
Mr. Miller, an award-winning documentary maker who had been working on a film about Palestinian children caught up in the conflict, was shot while walking openly with two colleagues to their apartment.
They were carrying a white flag with a torch shone on it, their helmets were clearly marked "TV" and they called out that they were British journalists as they approached an armoured personnel carrier to ask permission to leave. Israeli claims of heavy fire between Palestinians and Israeli troops at the time were disproved because an Associated Press cameraman filmed the incident.
Mrs. Miller said the family believed there had been no "genuine will" to uncover the truth because the site of the shooting had not been secured for forensic investigation. It was bulldozed three days later and Israeli authorities took 11 weeks to impound the guns involved in Mr. Miller's death for ballistic examination.
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Apr. 19, 2005 3:32
We've lost our way
By GERSHON BASKIN

On April 10, three Palestinian youths aged 14 were killed by Israeli troops in Rafah. The two sides presented very different reports regarding the circumstances of the killings.
Israeli sources reported that the youths were smuggling weapons, that warning shots were fired before they were shot and killed. Palestinian sources reported that they were playing soccer and were shot for no reason. A later Palestinian report stated that they may have been trying to steal surveillance cameras.
Regardless of which of the stories is correct, I fail to see why three 14-year-olds were given a death sentence. Beyond the anger of such a senseless and ugly loss of life, I am amazed and distraught about why there was absolutely no discussion of these senseless killings in the Israeli body politic or press. The only part of the story that made the media and political debate was the Palestinian reaction to the killing - the shooting of tens of mortars into Gush Katif and Israel.
I am outraged by these youths' killing. Was there no other way to respond? Couldn't the army have arrested them? The boys were only a few hundred meters away - within the soldiers' gun sights and in clear range of the lethal bullets. Couldn't our soldiers have called the Palestinian police to arrest them?
Why was there no public outcry over these senseless killings? Do we simply not care about Palestinians who are killed? Have we lost our humanity?
As if a script had been prepared and played out, just as Prime Minister Ariel Sharon was off to Texas to meet with President George Bush at his Texas ranch, the Palestinians could be accused of breaking the cease-fire. Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) could be described as not doing anything to fulfill his road map commitments - just look how the Palestinians are shooting mortars and Abbas is doing nothing.
How convenient for Sharon. How manipulative can we be?
Abbas is in trouble. Everyone shares this assessment. On the streets of Palestine, people give him weeks, perhaps months, before he disappears from the scene. His supporter-critics in Palestine say he is not decisive enough, that he should immediately fire all the senior officers who are not implementing his policies - beginning with Musa Arafat, who recently threatened to kill Interior Minister Nasser Yousef, should he come to Gaza.
Abu Mazen should have immediately launched a corruption investigation; many people should already be standing trial. They say he should have fired the attorney-general and brought in a more serious senior prosecutor, one with clean hands. They say he should have arrested all the Fatah gunmen who have paraded around the Palestinian cities threatening to use their weapons against the Palestinian Authority.
This is all true. There are many other issues that also must be immediately addressed by Abu Mazen. The new political parties law is long overdue. The election law and the shape of the elections must be decided and legislated without delay. The list of what Abbas must do is almost endless. But if he falls, the blame will not lie on his own shoulders only. We must also ask ourselves: What has Israel done to support Abu Mazen and advance his chances of success?
Perhaps we should first ask ourselves if Israel is really interested in Abu Mazen's success. I do not have a definitive answer to this question. Unfortunately, I cannot say categorically that Israel is working to ensure Hamas does not replace Abbas and the Palestinian Authority. I cannot say Sharon would not prefer to have the Palestinians run by people who really cannot be viewed as partners.


Apr. 19, 2005 3:32
We've lost our way
By GERSHON BASKI

(Continued from page 1 of 2)
Isn't it easier for Israel to continue its expansionist settlement policies when the Palestinians are led by Islamic extremists? What could be a better situation for Israel's right wing than a Palestinian public that democratically elects a Hamas leadership?
Imagine a scenario where, after Palestinian legislative elections in July, Hamas emerges the victor. What is the future of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations for the creation of a Palestinian state, according to Bush's vision, when Islamic fundamentalism is on the other side of the negotiating table?
There would probably be no negotiations at all. It is completely likely that Hamas would not even participate in negotiations with Israel - at least at anytime in the near future.
Some Palestinian analysts state that Hamas is afraid of the upcoming elections because it may win a majority of seats. That would place it in the position of having to confront the question of negotiating with Israel, something it is not yet ready to accept.
Wouldn't that be convenient for Sharon? Increasing support for Hamas in Palestine is not only because it is presenting clean hands to a public fed up with corruption. Its members are also asking themselves, every day, what has Abu Mazen and his moderation brought us? There are still 7,500 Palestinians in Israeli prisons. New arrests take place everyday. Jericho and Tulkarm have been turned over to Palestinian control, but Israeli roadblocks continue to surround them. What about the rest of the cities?
Every day Palestinians witness more land confiscation, more olive trees uprooted and more walls constructed, putting them in ghettos and enclaves. More Palestinians are being killed, albeit far fewer than this time last year, but there is supposed to be a cessation of violence - at least the violence controlled and directed at the official levels.
What has changed in Israel's policies since the election of Abu Mazen? In the eyes of the Palestinian public, nothing.
I don't usually believe conspiracy theories. But in light of the reality we witness every day, what else is there left to believe? If Israel really wanted Abbas to succeed, there is a lot that we could be doing to increase his chances. Instead, it seems to me, we are doing almost everything possible to ensure his failure.
I do not believe this is acting in the interests of Israel, and I cannot understand our obtuseness.
The writer is the Israeli CEO of the Israel/Palestine Center for Research and Information. http://www.ipci.org/


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CHAPTER 20 - FOLLOW THE PHONY TRAIL AND DEDUCTIVE LOGIC

REVEALS THE TRUE CULPRITS

AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION OF 9-11 AND THE WAR ON TERRORISM by: Dr. Albert D. Pastore Phd.

LOGICAL CONCLUSION #1: 9-11 WAS CARRIED OUT BY EITHER ONE OF TWO GROUPS.

GROUP #1: MUSLIM TERRORISTS seeking to avenge U.S. policies in the Middle East..

OR............................

GROUP #2: ZIONIST TERRORISTS seeking to frame their enemies as a pretext for involving the US in a war against Arab/Muslim states.

THERE ARE NO OTHER LOGICAL SUSPECTS OTHER THAN THESE TWO

WHICH LEADS US TO...

LOGICAL CONCLUSION #2: THE TRUE CULPRITS WISH TO REMAIN UNKNOWN.

We know this because Bin Laden strongly denied any involvement in 9-11 and suggested that the Zionists were behind it. (1) It is widely believed throughout the Arab and Muslim world (and even much of Europe) that Israeli and U.S. elements staged 9-11 as a pretext for a war against the Islamic world.

The Zionists and the U.S. scoff at this idea and insist that Muslim terrorists carried out 9-11.

IN SHORT, GROUP 1 CLAIMS GROUP 2 DID IT, AND GROUP 2 CLAIMS GROUP 1 DID IT.

WHICH LEADS US TO...

LOGICAL CONCLUSION #3: TO ESCAPE PUNISHMENT FROM AN OUTRAGED USA, THE TRUE CULPRITS WOULD NEED TO PLANT A FALSE TRAIL OF "EVIDENCE" AWAY FROM THEMSELVES AND TOWARDS THE OTHER GROUP.

Given that both Group 1 or Group 2 would be in serious trouble if it were discovered to be responsible for 9-11, and given the fact that each group blames the other, we would therefore expect the true culprit to attempt to divert the investigation towards the innocent group and away from itself. This trick is as old as crime itself. As surely as night follows day, a phony evidence trail would had to have surfaced following the 9-11 operation.

WHICH LEADS US TO...

LOGICAL CONCLUSION #4: IF WE FIND WHAT APPEARS TO BE A FALSE EVIDENCE TRAIL, WE WILL HAVE FOUND THE TRUE CULPRIT.

By simply reversing the direction to which the phony trail points towards, we can logically deduce who the true culprits were. Whichever group has phony-looking evidence directed towards it must therefore be the innocent group. Find the phony trail and you will find the guilty party.

WHICH LEADS US TO...

LOGICAL CONCLUSION #5: THE ONLY TRAIL THAT APPEARS TO BE OF SUSPICIOUS ORIGIN POINTS TOWARDS MUSLIMS. CONSIDER THESE VERY STRANGE PIECES OF "EVIDENCE" THAT SURFACED IN THE DAYS FOLLOWING 9-11.

1. A few weeks before 9-11, Israeli Mossad officials flew to the U.S. and met with leaders of the FBI and CIA. The Mossad claimed that a major terrorist attack was imminent and that the culprits would be Osama Bin Laden and Iraq's Saddam Hussein. They gave no other details.(2)

2. After the attacks, there were widely publicized reports that the government had a tape recording of Bin laden calling his mother just a few days before the attacks and telling her: "Something big is about to happen and you won't be hearing from me for a while." This claim was broadcast repeatedly on every news network and convinced many people that Bin Laden was indeed guilty.

Weeks later, CNN corrected itself and revealed that the story turned out to be baseless. Although the story is now UNIVERSALLY repudiated by even the mainstream media, far fewer people ever heard the repudiation than did the original hyped-up claim. (3)

3. Hours after the attacks, investigators received a report of a suspicious car left behind at Boston's Logan Airport by a group of belligerent Arabs. Inside the car, investigators find an Arab language flight manual. (4) HOW CONVENIENT!

4. Investigators then find a suitcase supposedly "forgotten" by Mohammed Atta, "ringleader" of the suicide hijackers (why would someone pack a suitcase for a suicide mission?) Inside the suitcase they find a Koran, a fuel consumption calculator, a suicide note, and more Arab flight manuals. (5) Why would they need a suicide note? Do they need to justify anything to those who find it? HOW CONVENIENT!

5. At the crash site in Pennsylvania, investigators find an incriminating letter written by one of the hijackers. (6) The destruction at the crash site was so complete that the largest piece of human remains found was an 8-inch piece of spine. (7) Yet the letter survived the awesome crash and incineration unscathed. HOW CONVENIENT!

6. Days after the attacks, a slightly burned passport belonging to one of the "Saudi hijackers" is miraculously found just a few blocks away from the rubble of the World Trade Center. (8) HOW CONVENIENT!

7. FBI Director Mueller even admitted that identity thefts were used in connection with 9-11. (9) As many as 7 of the 19 "Arab hijackers" are alive and well and some had reported their passports stolen in 1999. (10)

8. Weeks after 9-11, Anthrax letters killed 5 people. The wording of the letters was designed to implicate Muslims. "Death to America. Death to Israel. Allah is great" It has long since been established that the anthrax came from a US army lab and was not mailed by Muslims. (11)

9. The Zionist run Pentagon claimed to have found a "confession video" from Osama Bin Laden. How convenient that the man who was clever enough to pull off 9-11 would suddenly become so careless and leave a self - incriminating video laying around Afghanistan. Independent translations of the barely audible video later exposed the US translation as "manipulative and inaccurate" (12). Other analyses of the video raises even more questions of fraud and doctoring.

10. It is then revealed that investigators also found a business card belonging to one of the hijackers at the Pennsylvania crash site. On the back of this miraculous business card is a telephone number linking one of the hijackers to the "20th hijacker" Zaccarias Moussaoui. (13) HOW CONVENIENT!

11. Also at the Pennsylvania crash site, another miracle passport belonging to "hijacker pilot" Ziad Jarrah was found. (14) HOW CONVENIENT!

Why were these hijackers carrying passports for internal domestic flights anyway?

12. The Friday before the attacks, three loud mouthed, drunken "hijackers" ( Mohammed Atta and the Al-Shehhi brothers) make a memorable scene at a restaurant in Hollywood, Florida. (keep the name Hollywood, Florida in your mind for a moment) The London Telegraph (and many other sources) tells us:

"Mohammed Atta, 33, who almost certainly was the Florida-trained pilot who rammed American Airlines Flight 11 into the north tower of the World Trade Centre, his cousin Marwan al-Shehhi, 23, and an Arab believed to be a brother of al-Shehhi, appeared to have been in a bibulous celebratory mood last week.

Tony Amos, the manager of Shuckums Oyster Bar and Restaurant in Hollywood (Florida) just north of Miami, was interviewed by the FBI and he and his barman and a waitress all identified Atta and his cousin as some hard drinkers who propped up the bar last Friday.

Atta's bill for three hours of vodka drinking came to $48. When he drunkenly disputed the charge, Mr Amos intervened. "Of course I can pay the bill," Atta told him. "I'm an airline pilot." (emphasis added) (15)

Devout fundamentalist Muslim "martyrs" drinking vodka for three hours? And notice how "Mohammed Atta" purposely goes out of his way to tell the manager he was "an airline pilot". This is very similar to the way in which he purposely told his flight school instructor he was "leaving for Boston".

13. The night before the attacks, three loud-mouthed "hijackers" (one of them again being the "ringleader" Mohammed Atta) visited a Florida strip club where they again cause a scene and make a deliberate point of telling people about a pending terror attack. They then conveniently "forget" yet another Koran at the bar! CBS News reported on September 14, 2001:

"The three men spewed anti-American sentiments in a bar and talked of impending bloodshed the night before the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, a Daytona Beach strip club manager interviewed by the FBI said Thursday."

"They were talking about what a bad place America is. They said 'Wait 'til tomorrow. America is going to see bloodshed,"' said John Kap, manager of the Pink Pony and Red Eyed Jack's Sports Bar. Kap said they made the claims to a bartender and a patron. Kap said he told FBI investigators the men in his bar spent $200 to $300 apiece on lap dances and drinks, paying with credit cards. Kap said he gave the FBI credit card receipts, photocopied driver's licenses, a business card left by one man and a copy of the Quran - the sacred book of Islam - that was left at the bar. (16) (emphasis added)

This one takes the grand prize! Devout, fundamentalist Muslim "martyrs" not only getting drunk, but fondling naked dancers just hours before they were scheduled to meet with God! These highly skilled secret operatives then jeopardize their mission by drawing attention to themselves while publicly bashing America and boasting about pending bloodshed, to take place the following day? And what on earth were they doing in Florida instead of Boston the eve of 9-11 anyway? Didn't they realize that if either of their two early morning connecting flights (first to Maine, and then to Boston) were a bit delayed the next morning, their whole operation would have been at risk? And finally, they oh-so-conveniently forget their business cards and Koran at the bar!

This Mohammed Atta character sure is an absent-minded fellow isn't he? He "loses" his passport in 1999, he "forgets" how to speak German when his flight school instructor tries to make small talk with him (see Chapter 11 ), he "forgets" his suitcase before the 9-11 attacks (or perhaps he remembered at the last moment that he wasn't going to need a suitcase for a suicide mission! ), he "forgets" a Koran in a Florida strip club, and then "forgets" yet another Koran in Boston, and also "forgets" his Arabic language flight manual and "forgets" his fuel consumption calculator! How did this guy ever get to be an electrical engineer?

My dear reader- no disrespect intended- but if you can't see through these little stunts as the obvious work of a team of "false flag" imposters, then you are either truly stupid or willfully blind. So who, if not Mohammed Atta and his friends, could these drunken, womanizing, Koran-toting, "Muslims" in Florida actually have been? An excellent May 7, 2002 story written by Christopher Ketcham of Salon Magazine provides a clue. Ketcham writes about the Israeli "art student" spy ring that was uncovered in 2001. In an article entitled "The Israeli Art Student Mystery", Ketcham informs us:

"For almost two years, hundreds of young Israelis falsely claiming to be art students haunted federal offices...... No one knows why -- and no one seems to want to find out.

"In HOLLYWOOD, (Florida) several students lived at 4220 Sheridan St., just down the block from the 3389 Sheridan St. apartment where terrorist mastermind Mohammed Atta holed up with three other Sept. 11 plotters. Many of the students, the DEA report noted, had backgrounds in Israeli military intelligence and/or electronics surveillance; one was the son of a two-star Israeli general, and another had served as a bodyguard to the head of the Israeli army. (emphasis added) 17

Need I connect these dots for you too, or are you now seeing the picture? How appropriate that these Israeli actors should stage their stunts in a town called "Hollywood"!

These are just a few of the highly suspect pieces of "evidence" that have turned up in the wake of 9-11. ON THE OTHER HAND, Nothing resembling such a phony, transparent, and ridiculous trail has been found to point towards Israelis and Zionists. No Jewish skullcaps left behind at the airport, no Jewish Torahs found in "forgotten" suitcases, no six-pointed Stars of David found at crash sites, no mysterious videos of rabbis taking credit for 9-11, no Israeli passports turning up at the WTC or other crash sites, etc

BUT THERE DOES EXIST AN ENORMOUS BODY OF REAL EVIDENCE THAT POINTS TO AN ISRAELI CONNECTION TO 9-11 AND OTHER ACTS OF TERROR AGAINST THE USA.

WHICH LEADS US TO..

LOGICAL CONCLUSION #6 THE MUSLIMS WERE FRAMED FOR 9-11 BY THE ZIONISTS

Zionists and allies within the U.S. government carried out 9-11 and the anthrax mailings. They then planted a phony evidence trail designed to frame Arabs/Muslims. Is there any other logical explanation?

Anti-Semitism you say? Then perhaps you prefer to hear it from a Jewish scholar instead. In an article entitled: The Zionist Roots of the War on Terror, Dr. Henry Makow, (inventor of the board game Scruples) writes:

"Until recently I accepted Israel's self-image as a beleaguered, peace-loving nation in a sea of blood thirsty Arabs. The idea that this tiny state had imperialist designs seemed ludicrous. But what if, unknown to most people, including Israelis, the world's power elite were using Israel to advance their plan for New World Order?... Israel's image of vulnerability is a ruse. Israel has always planned to become the dominant power in the region, and "invented dangers" in order to dupe its citizens and provoke wars. ...The Mossad's fingerprints are all over 9-11."(emphasis added) (18)

According to Abe Foxman's and the ADL's dubious logic, Makow must therefore be a "self-hating" Jew.

1. http://www.joevialls.co.uk// Fortress America1,2
2. http://www.reopen911.org/9-11%20plan%201976.htm
3. http://www.joevialls.co.uk// Fortress America1,2
In August 2001, the Israelis handed over a list of terrorist suspects , on it were the names of four of the September 11 hijackers
4. http://www.michaelmoore.com//
http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2004/06/141355.php
5. http://www.nogw.com/warforisrael.html#neocons
6. http://www.nogw.com/warforisrael.html#neomedia
7. http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/sidelines.html
8. 911 Commission results
9. http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2004/06/141355.php
10. http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/buffett.html
"Stranger Than Fiction: An Independent Investigation of the True Culprits Behind 9-11
By: Dr. Albert D. Pastore Phd. http://www.voxfux.com/features/stranger_than_fiction.htm.
Published by Dandelion Books: http://www.dandelionbooks.net/.
Israeli spies impersonating Egyptian terrorists - in 1954:
The Jews of Iraq, by Naeim Giladi
April - May 1998 The Link - Volume 31, Issue 2
http://middleeastinfo.org/article2595.html
also at http://www.inminds.co.uk/jews-of-iraq.html
"In 1954, it seemed that America was getting less critical of Nasser. Then during a three-week period in July, several terrorist bombs were set off: at the United States Information Agency offices in Cairo and Alexandria, a British-owned theater, and the central post office in Cairo. An attempt to firebomb a cinema in Alexandria failed when the bomb went off in the pocket of one of the perpetrators. That led to the discovery that the terrorists were not anti-Western Egyptians, but were instead Israeli spies bent on souring the warming relationship between Egypt and the United States in what came to be known as the Lavon Affair."
For up-to-date analysis of 9-11 and the war against Islam, please see the following sites:
AntiWar.Com: http://www.antiwar.com/
No War For Israel: http://www.nowarforisrael.com/
The attack on the Pentagon: "Damage pattern has no relationship to profile of 757": http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/pentagon/
Photos - evidence of demolition: http://vancouver.indymedia.org/print.php?id=56715
Feral News: http://www.feralnews.com//
911 WTC War Without End: http://www.itszone.co.uk//
The Complete 9/11 Timeline: http://www.cooperativeresearch.org//
Feral News Weblog: http://www.feralnews.com/weblog/index.php
The Information Clearing House: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/
Scientific Panel Investigating Nine Eleven (SPINE): http://www.physics911.org/
9-11 Visibility Project: http://www.septembereleventh.org//
Dick Eastman: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/77_deastman1.htm
Within one week of 9/11, Jared Israel of Emperor's Clothes was denying the possibility that Mossad might have been behind 9/11. He wants to pin all blame on the "Empire". (these from http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/wtc.html)"
11.http://www.public-action.com/911/rescue/nfpa.html
12. http://www.prisonplanet.com/011904wtc7.html


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Watching an infomercial.Feed the Children... Why are Americans going without food and this country ( to help 1 800-942-5696)is using 5% of our income to support Israel, who sent spies who cheered, luaghed and danced at the destruction of the World trade center?

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How could Mossad agents found with explosives been deported in Mexico? Bush must really want a Fortress America by his lack of sealing the Mexican border. Citizens are willing to keep terrorists out, but Bush says we need their services!!! It's beyond belief! They're filling up our jails and hospitals and taxpayers are paying for them!!!
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This truly is a nightmare. Are you saying our own government killed its own people?

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There is a difference between Zionists and Judaism. Zionists are usually Socialists, and want the expansion of Israel. The delay in resettling the settlers is an exampe of Arial Sharon's unwillingness to give up an inch into the incursion of Plaestine's land. He has been a butcher! He ought to resign and let someone else lead the true Israel!
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My taxpayer's money is going to kill Americans?
The top heavy Zionist loving administration is using my money to finance Israel's wars? This is so devious that I don't have words for it!
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This is definitely headed to World War III. Iran is out there. Now that the media supports the official version, and after all our bombing of Iraq, there is a real jihad going. It's only months away, and President Bush will become DICTAOR BUSH under martial law. I did read there are being constructed Concentration Camps in this country. Look it up on the web!
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If Bush gets impeached, look who's next. Cheney. He's in it. Then if he gets impeached, ... we'll have to make the dog catcher president...
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When his aid came into the classroom he told Mr. Bush, "everything is going as planned"
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The Secretary of State said today, "this war came to us".. implying IRAN would be next. Yes it was planned years before 911, and so is the coming WWIII, unless Americans wake up!
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THIS ARTICLE IS HIDDEN BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS THE TRUTH OUT! This is what happened and we're worried that the private bankers who own the Federal Reserve will screw the economy. Most of them are proZionist.

I'd rather have an honest, nonalien run government that truly protects US Citzens than this one who sacrifices nearly 3000 citizens for its own ends!!!
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God Bless America. We've given our taxpayer money to every country we warred with. America has never had a crisis as this before. Our leaders get paid by Israel's lobbies who've received our foreign aid. And Israel is looking for the US to fight Iran? That means fighting China, and they outnumber us 8 to 1.

Get rid of this foreign policy, before you're told to have one child only.
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The writer spent some time composing this article, and must have been motivated by loyalty to America and those who suffered from 911 and the coming suffering of the fighting between Moselems and Protestants and Catholics. The above writer is gleefully applauding this.

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Notice the Israeli look alike mentioned by Timothey McV. Notice the government did not persue the Middle Eastern man.
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Last month I was out in the desert with Frank, shooting and relaxing. Then up rushes this guy in
a pickup, hauling a big camp trailer. He jumped out and said we'd nearly hit him and his family
with our bullets! But he came from the opposite direction than we'd been shooting. I'm a very
safe and careful shooter but I apologized anyway. Then he said he had his wife and four
daughters out here and he really needed to park where he could have a water supply. Maybe
they were all in the trailer, I thought. The next day he rolls up in my yard uninvited, trailer and
all. He invited me to see the inside of the thing and there were several TV monitors and other
fancy equipment, including a satellite antenna on the roof. He told me that he was monitoring al-
Jazeera TV in the Middle East! But there were no children or wives in the trailer. He said he'd
come to Golden Valley (!) to get involved with the patriot movement there. I said, "What patriot
movement?" I finally asked him to leave.
Then, while I was away from the house for a day or so, I returned to find it broken into and my
lock ruined. Nothing was missing however. Bruce told me to make a police report. He said,
they've already got the serial numbers of your guns and they obviously want you to have them.
He gave me a bunch of old Spotlight newspapers for something to read. I was shocked to read
in a 1999 edition that the Jewish Anti-Defamation League had had an informant next to Tim for
at least two years before the bombing! It was the ADL which tipped off the government that
Tim had allegedly placed an ad in the Spotlight under the name "T. Tuttle." How did they know
that? They also told the government that Tim had supposedly bought a telephone calling card
from the Spotlight under the name of "Daryl Bridges." Again, how could they know this? This
card was supposedly used by Tim to call the mysterious ex-Special Forces soldier and FBI
informant Dave Hollaway at Kirk Lyons' law office just before Tim left for Kansas and
Oklahoma. Hollaway says that he advised Tim to rent a Ryder truck near an army base so he
could use cash instead of a credit card.
Bruce learned that Dave Hollaway had arranged for Andreas Strassmeir to live at the federal
rest camp known as Elohim City in Muldrow, Oklahoma. Carol Howe told her federal handlers
that Dennis Mahon and Tim McVeigh stayed with Strassmeir frequently at Elohim City, which is
run by the Reverend Robert Millar, identified by FBI agents in the OKC grand jury as a long-
time confidential informant. The ARA bank robbers all stayed there, too. Strassmeir styled
himself as Chief of Security and would storm around, yelling that they better bomb something or
he was going to leave!
After the bombing it was Dave Hollaway who drove Strassmeir from Elohim City to the
Mexican border where he was met by an associate who baby-sat the German on the Mexican
side until his colleagues in GSG-9 flew in to take him back to Berlin. Strassmeir's father is quite
wealthy and was Helmut Kohl's secretary of state.
But this Spotlight also had a picture of an Israeli named Svi Toval who is a dead ringer for Tim.
In fact, Toval looks more like the drawing of John Doe 1 than Tim does. The suggestion was
that Tim was being run by the Mossad and had at least one double.
Tim said when he was arhttp://www.apfn.org/apfn/okc-911.htmrested that he was mind-controlled. Many people who knew him have
said that he often acted in a mindless, robotic manner. And there was that strange episode
when he moved from our house in Golden Valley into the motel in Kingman for ten days or so.
The manager said he never came out the whole time. I couldn't figure why he would do that or
how he could afford it, since he had a house to live in five miles away. Now I'm wondering,
based on my experience, if he wasn't getting the same treatment in the house as I was? Maybe
he was just trying to get away from the strange phenomena that I experienced there. Or maybe,
as it has been suggested, he was receiving instructions at the motel.
There is no question that I have been mind-controlled for many years by VA doctors and what I
now suspect to be a microwave generator in one of the houses near mine. Bruce and Dr. Robbi
have pointed out that I am only comfortable in my house and that I experience anxiety when I
am away from it. Dr. Robbi says that one's mood can be manipulated by microwaves, giving
one either anxiety or euphoria or anything in between. She came to my house last week to treat
my shaking and nervousness and was suddenly stricken with complete paralysis and nausea.
She couldn't move for over twelve hours. She recovered some time the next day but persuaded
me that we were being microwaved from a close source and that we must leave. Bruce himself
had stopped by two weeks earlier and then came down suddenly with acute appendicitis, which
Dr. Robbi successfully treated without surgery, but it took about ten days of considerable pain.
I believe that he, too, was zapped in some way.
The two of them persuaded me three days ago to leave Golden Valley and
After the bombing it was Dave Hollaway who drove Strassmeir from Elohim City to the
Mexican border where he was met by an associate who baby-sat the German on the Mexican
side until his colleagues in GSG-9 flew in to take him back to Berlin. Strassmeir's father is quite
wealthy and was Helmut Kohl's secretary of state.
But this Spotlight also had a picture of an Israeli named Svi Toval who is a dead ringer for Tim.
In fact, Toval looks more like the drawing of John Doe 1 than Tim does. The suggestion was
that Tim was being run by the Mossad and had at least one double.
Tim said when he was arrested that he was mind-controlled. Many people who knew him have
said that he often acted in a mindless, robotic manner. And there was that strange episode
when he moved from our house in Golden Valley into the motel in Kingman for ten days or so.
The manager said he never came out the whole time. I couldn't figure why he would do that or
how he could afford it, since he had a house to live in five miles away. Now I'm wondering,
based on my experience, if he wasn't getting the same treatment in the house as I was? Maybe
he was just trying to get away from the strange phenomena that I experienced there. Or maybe,
as it has been suggested, he was receiving instructions at the motel.
There is no question that I have been mind-controlled for many years by VA doctors and what I
now suspect to be a microwave generator in one of the houses near mine. Bruce and Dr. Robbi
have pointed out that I am only comfortable in my house and that I experience anxiety when I
am away from it. Dr. Robbi says that one's mood can be manipulated by microwaves, giving
one either anxiety or euphoria or anything in between. She came to my house last week to treat
my shaking and nervousness and was suddenly stricken with complete paralysis and nausea.
She couldn't move for over twelve hours. She recovered some time the next day but persuaded
me that we were being microwaved from a close source and that we must leave. Bruce himself
had stopped by two weeks earlier and then came down suddenly with acute appendicitis, which
Dr. Robbi successfully treated without surgery, but it took about ten days of considerable pain.
I believe that he, too, was zapped in some way.
The two of them persuaded me three days ago to leave Golden Valley and Tim's old house.
They said it would only get worse and that there was no reason to stay in Tim McVeigh's house
in any case. I insisted that I was not important enough for the government to try to manipulate.
Bruce asked if Lee Oswald, Jack Ruby, Sirhan Sirhan, James Earl Ray or Tim McVeigh
seemed important enough to manipulate? They were nobodies whom the government set up to
bring great and sweeping change to this country. Bruce insisted that I dispose of my guns,
which he said were identified during visits known and unknown and which the government was
apparently quite happy for me to own. "Does Mannlicher Carcano mean anything to you? And
that wasn't even Oswald's!" And, he pointed out, if you're not going to use them, then those
things are just a liability to you now. This from the guy who started the militia. But he was right
and I sold them legally two days ago. Dr. Robbi especially believed that I was going to be the
next McVeigh and kept asking me if I wanted to be the poster boy for martial law and
disarmament? No, I did not.
A pickup truck hauling a technical-looking fifth wheel trailer with antennas and solar panels on
the roof pulled up in front of my house, which is really in a rather desolate location with a
number of double-wides and such scattered around. The house directly across the street from
me isn't bad but the new occupant is the local FEMA chief, which I admit did alarm me. Next
to him is the lady with the binoculars. Two guys in matching outfits, complete with black
baseball hats, got out of the truck and went a few yards up and down Hunt Road calling, "Here,
kitty kitty!" Now, these guys had never been in the neighborhood but they're searching for their
lost cat

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