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News :: GLBT/Queer : Politics
Stand Up To Anti-Gay Bigotry in Boston! Protest Fred Phelps!
01 Jun 2005
STAND UP TO ANTI-GAY BIGOTS AND DEFEND GAY MARRIAGE!

PROTEST FRED PHELPS!

FRED PHELPS WANTS TO BRING HIS ANTI-GAY HATEFUL MESSAGE TO BROOKLINE HIGH'S GRADUATION ON JUNE 5, 2005. WE HAVE TO ORGANIZE TO STOP THIS DISGUSTING NUT JOB WHO PROTESTED MATTHEW SHEPARD'S FUNERAL AND IS NOW ON A MISSION TO DISTURB HIGH SCHOOLS ACROSS THE COUNTRY WITH PROMINENT GLBT GROUPS WITH HIS HATE-FILLED PREACHING. HE TARGETS MASSACHUSETTES BECAUSE ONLY HERE HAVE SAME-SEX MARRIAGES BEEN LEGALIZED.

IF LEFT UNOPPOSED, PHELPS' HATEFUL WORDS CAN ONLY INSPIRE HATE CRIMES AGAINST GAYS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND BUILD CONFIDENCE IN THOSE WHO WANT TO HARM AND SILENCE THOSE WHO WANT EQUALITY FOR ALL. IN ORDER TO PREVENT THIS AND DEFEND THE GAINS WE WON THROUGH THE LEGALIZATION OF GAY-MARRIAGE, WE URGENTLY NEED TO ORGNAIZE NOW.

PROTEST PHELPS: SUNDAY, JUNE 5, 11:30am, BROOKLINE HIGHSCHOOL

FOR MORE INFORMATION: e-mail protestphelps (at) yahoo.com or 781 551 6649

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Re: Stand Up To Anti-Gay Bigotry in Boston! Protest Fred Phelps!
02 Jun 2005
Please, don't forget about Lexington, Lowell and Dracut. We're needed there most, because our numbers will most likely be smaller.
Re: Stand Up To Anti-Gay Bigotry in Boston! Protest Fred Phelps!
02 Jun 2005
Here are two other Anti-Gay protests taking place in this part of Mass.

June 5 in Lowell Ma.
At 3:30 to 5:oo pm the, Lexington High school graduation, At 300 Arcand Ave Lowell Ma

June 6 in Dracut Ma.
At 9:00 am At Englesby Intermediate school,
1580 Lakeview Ave Dracut Ma.
Re: Stand Up To Anti-Gay Bigotry in Boston! Protest Fred Phelps!
02 Jun 2005
Before you reflexively counterprotest, you should take a look at what they are protesting. It's a very graphic and objectionable pornographic booklet that they are handing out to middle school kids. Moreover, they are telling these kids where to go to meet older homos. It's basically facilitating pederasty.

I know that Boston Indymedia reflexively jumps to the side of anything gay, person of color, feminist, etc., but sometimes you just have to step back, evaluate the situation, and pick your battles.

Do you really want to be on the side of NAMBLA?

The great Roman leader, Marcus Aurelius, praised his father for, among other things, "suppressing pederasty." The great and wise Marcus Aurelius, who wrote "Meditations," believed that pederasty was a bad thing that needed to be suppressed.

Maybe he had a point, eh?

Rob
Re: Stand Up To Anti-Gay Bigotry in Boston! Protest Fred Phelps!
02 Jun 2005
if they are protesting a packet that is being handed out to middle school kids, then WHY are they protesting at a high school graduation?
prove to us that they are encouraging pedophilia, you've provided no evidence.

Regardless, this is Fred Phelps. He says thank god for AIDS, and he protested at Matthew Shepard's funeral. That's one of the most disgusting things I've ever heard of. Phelps doesn't have a shred of legitimacy.
Word to what chip and Ed said, let's try to get out for these other towns too!
Also, this counterprotest should not be confrontational... this is very different then resisting big burly white guys who are neonazis and think they are tough and would beat you up. this is a scrawny old preacher who would love more than anything to be able to sue and win money for being beaten up. it would be best to keep him and his goons away from the graduation and to block them from sight (bring sheets to block them from view). nobody wants any sort of violence here, and if you do, keep it away from the school. let's steer clear from the black masks and chants and instead take an approach more similar to the radical cheerleaders or a kiss-in.
Re: Stand Up To Anti-Gay Bigotry in Boston! Protest Fred Phelps!
02 Jun 2005
http://www.article8.org/docs/news_events/glsen_043005/black_book/black_book_inside.htm

Check your facts Rob. I see nothing about older men. Also it wasn't haded out to middle school kids. Less than 10 were handed out to adults at a conference held on the HIGH SCHOOL grounds on a saturday. I think I should know. I go to BHS.
Re: Stand Up To Anti-Gay Bigotry in Boston! Protest Fred Phelps!
02 Jun 2005
BIG UPS TO WHAT THE ARTFUL DODGER SAID! Phelps thrives on conflict. If your gonna do something make it creative and keep it posi.
Re: Stand Up To Anti-Gay Bigotry in Boston! Protest Fred Phelps!
03 Jun 2005
As a glbt resident of the area, I'm happy to see so much concern about Fred Phelps on here. I want to urge people not to come to Lexington (or Lowell, where our high school graduation is being held) to counter-demonstrate, though. Our community through its various organizations -- including the glbt-affirmative Respecting Differences Coalition -- has decided a non-response is the best response. (This is also what we did when the Neo-Nazis came to town recently.) Phelps wants to make us mad and get lots of media attention, and we have decided not to give ten sick people from Kansas what they want! The faith communities have organized a silent witness to give people a friendly face as they go to their church services on Sunday, but these people have all had a 2.5 hour training in silent non-violent witness, and we ask everyone else to stay away, or go to church with the church goers to be in solidarity. The school and police have done a great deal of planning to try to keep things as normal as possible for the students, and counter demonstrators at the school events would not help that effort. The rest of our town is very much behind this. So if you want local people and local gay people like myself to feel supported, know that our town has been great, and that what we want is to deny Phelps what he wants -- more media attention through conflict with counter demonstrators, etc.
Re: Stand Up To Anti-Gay Bigotry in Boston! Protest Fred Phelps!
03 Jun 2005
if only pepole had ignored Hitler in the beginning...oh wait
To ignore to not to ignore?
03 Jun 2005
Fred Phelps publicly celebrates the murder of gays and lesbians. This is a far-right position, but also dangerous, given that hate crimes in Boston against gays and lesbians has increased by 30% over the past year. We can't let him inspire more bigots to act out. We have to publicly humiliate and confront him. I don't think it will give Phelps more press -- i think it will give the anti-bigot movement more press. And it will let people know that there are two sides to this debate. Nationally, all people hear is bigotry from the Democrats and Republicans (think: "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" "Defense of Marriage Act," etc) People need to hear the anti-bigot, pro-gay rights side of the equation if we are going to defend our rights.

Hope to see you all Sunday at Brookline High at 11:30am!
Best of luck to those organizing against Phelps elsewhere!
Re: Stand Up To Anti-Gay Bigotry in Boston! Protest Fred Phelps!
03 Jun 2005
I have been sitting on the fence of this whole gay thing, but after looking at the Article 8 link I was wicked grossed out, and don't want these people anywhere near my kids.

It seems kind of crazy to be taking the side of people who are pushing homosexual pornography on schoolkids, and yes, I agree with Rob above, that they are setting up schoolchildren with gay adults.

I'll be on the Fred Phelps side. I don't agree with killing anyone, including gays, but trying to lure schoolkids into the gay milieu is very dangerous and harmful.

Right thinking homosexuals should oppose these sick pedophiles who have infiltrated the schools. Go Fred Phelps!

Straight Up Mom
Re: Stand Up To Anti-Gay Bigotry in Boston! Protest Fred Phelps!
03 Jun 2005
^ same troll as before
editor's note
03 Jun 2005
The person who posted the claim that Phelps was actually protesting pedophiles followed it up with another (now hidden) post that was both virulently racist and homophobic and acknowleged that he himself was on the far right. I would use that in evaluating his claims.

And, mother of school kids, I hardly think it's fair to judge most gay people by NAMBLA--yes, NAMBLA is repulsive, but NAMBLA is an organization of pedophiles with which the vast majority of gay people want nothing to do with.
Re: Stand Up To Anti-Gay Bigotry in Boston! Protest Fred Phelps!
03 Jun 2005
margaret, you said you used nonresponse when the nazis came to town, and what do you think that accomplished? we who came out on the other hand, embarrassed them, kept them from the holocaust memorial, and forced them to leave early. I don't care if they were on every major news station, that isnt how they gain support. and guess what? i was on all those stations too! ignoring these people only emboldens them. we gave the nazis nothing to be proud of. and we should be careful to handle phelps the same- we wont disrupt the graduations (and will handle him much differently then the nazis) but we will keep him from spreading his message and we'll get ours out too. also, do not claim to speak on behalf of the gay population, my friend and i who have been working on this really don't appriciate that.

about getting nonviolent training- why? we aren't going to attack anyone... are you going to be keeping them away from us, or us away from them? how is this going to be a normal day if there will be police there? how come you want phelps to be the only one spreading a message? let's get out there and outnumber them at least 10 to 1. Phelps getting media attention won't help his cause if we are in the same picture presenting ourselves much more reasonably. if you don't want a protest then fine, lets have a festival to celebrate who we are and our resistance to such hatred. plus i don't know about the rest of you, but i'm not so interested in attending a church service instead, nor am i deterred because the police don't think we should come. thats a surprise, isnt it?
Re: Stand Up To Anti-Gay Bigotry in Boston! Protest Fred Phelps!
04 Jun 2005
For those whining about the pamphlets handed out:

They were not, in fact, handed out in classes. They were handed out at a GLBT conference held at the school. Biiig difference. They can twist the words to say that they were handing them out in school, which implies something different than the truth.
Re: Stand Up To Anti-Gay Bigotry in Boston! Protest Fred Phelps!
05 Jun 2005
I thought this went incredibly well.
Re: Stand Up To Anti-Gay Bigotry in Boston! Protest Fred Phelps!
06 Jun 2005
Some of those Mass Equality folks were just as bad, if not worse than ANSWER's "peace police." In Dracut today, not only did they immediately try to take control of the counterdemo, they harped on anyone who said something negative, or even LOOKED in the direction of the WBC people. This is probably one of the main reasons gays and lesbians aren't treated better in this country...Because the so-called leaders of their organizations would rather turn away from ignorance and hatred than stand up to it.
Re: Stand Up To Anti-Gay Bigotry in Boston! Protest Fred Phelps!
07 Jun 2005
There was 200 people at the Dracut protest.It was cool accept for some of the control freaks of the left. All I know is im not taking any from the left at any demo!!!