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SUPPORT FREE SPEECH! BUY DANISH PRODUCTS!
04 Feb 2006
Radical-religious thugs are trying their best to intimidate political speech in the name of religion - please join me in supporting Danish journalists and their right to free speech!
Syrians Torch Embassies Over Caricatures

By ALBERT AJI, Associated Press WriterSat Feb 4, 4:06 PM ET

Thousands of Syrians enraged by caricatures of Islam's revered prophet torched the Danish and Norwegian embassies in Damascus on Saturday — the most violent in days of furious protests by Muslims in Asia, Europe and the Middle East.

In Gaza, Palestinians marched through the streets, storming European buildings and burning German and Danish flags. Protesters smashed the windows of the German cultural center and threw stones at the European Commission building, police said.

Iraqis rallying by the hundreds demanded an apology from the European Union, and the leader of the Palestinian group Hamas called the cartoons "an unforgivable insult" that merited punishment by death.

Pakistan summoned the envoys of nine Western countries in protest, and even Europeans took to the streets in Denmark and Britain to voice their anger.

At the heart of the protest: 12 caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad first published in Denmark's Jyllands-Posten in September and reprinted in European media in the past week. One depicted the prophet wearing a turban shaped as a bomb with a burning fuse. The paper said it had asked cartoonists to draw the pictures because the media was practicing self-censorship when it came to Muslim issues.

The drawings have touched a raw nerve in part because Islamic law is interpreted to forbid any depictions of the Prophet Muhammad.

Aggravating the affront, Denmark's Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen has said repeatedly he cannot apologize for his country's free press. But other European leaders tried Saturday to calm the storm.

Germany's Chancellor Angela Merkel said she understood Muslims were hurt — though that did not justify violence.

"Freedom of the press is one of the great assets as a component of democracy, but we also have the value and asset of freedom of religion," Merkel told an international security conference in Munich, Germany.

The Vatican deplored the violence but said certain provocative forms of criticism were unacceptable.

"The right to freedom of thought and expression ... cannot entail the right to offend the religious sentiment of believers," the Vatican said in its first statement on the controversy.

British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, who has criticized European media for reprinting the caricatures, said there was no justification for the violence in Damascus.

"We stand in solidarity with the Danish government in its call for calm and its demand that all its diplomats and diplomatic premises are properly protected. It's incumbent on the Syrian authorities to act in this regard."

But Denmark and Norway did not wait for more violence.

With their Damascus embassies up in flames, the foreign ministries advised their citizens to leave Syria without delay.

"It's horrible and totally unacceptable," Danish Foreign Minister Per Stig Moeller said on Danish public television Saturday.

No diplomats were injured in the Syrian violence, officials said. But Swedish Foreign Minister Laila Freivalds — whose country, along with Chile, has an embassy in the same building — said she would lodge a formal protest over the lack of security.

In Santiago, the Chilean Ministry of Foreign Affairs said the Chilean Embassy in Damascus was also torched but nobody was injured.

The demonstrations in Damascus began peacefully with protesters gathering outside the building housing the Danish Embassy. But they began throwing stones and eventually broke through police barricades. Some scrambled up concrete barriers protecting the embassy, climbed into the building and set a fire.

"With our blood and souls we defend you, O Prophet of God!" the demonstrators chanted. Some removed the Danish flag and replaced it with a green flag printed with the words: "There is no god but God and Muhammad is the messenger of God."

Demonstrators moved onto the Norwegian Embassy about 4 miles away, also setting fire to it before being dispersed by police using tear gas and water cannons. Hundreds of police and troops barricaded the road leading to the French Embassy, but protesters were able to break through briefly before fleeing from the force of water cannons.

In Gaza, masked gunmen affiliated with the Fatah Party called on the Palestinian Authority and Muslim nations to recall their diplomatic missions from Denmark until the government apologizes.

In the West Bank town of Hebron, about 50 Palestinians marched to the headquarters of the international observer mission there, burned a Danish flag and demanded a boycott of Danish goods.

"We will redeem our prophet Muhammad with our blood!" they chanted.

Mahmoud Zahar, leader of the militant Palestinian group Hamas, told the Italian daily Il Giornale the cartoonists should be punished by death.

We should have killed all those who offend the Prophet and instead here we are, protesting peacefully." he said.

Hundreds of Iraqis rallied south of Baghdad, some carrying banners urging "honest people all over the world to condemn this act" and demanding an EU apology.

Anger swelled in Europe, too. Young Muslims clashed briefly with police in Copenhagen, the Danish capital, and some 700 people rallied outside the Danish Embassy in London.

A South African court banned the country's Sunday newspapers from reprinting the cartoons.

Iran's president ordered his commerce minister to study canceling all trade contracts with European countries whose newspapers have published the caricatures, the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported.

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said the caricatures showed the "impudence and rudeness" of Western newspapers against the prophet as well as the "maximum resentment of the Zionists (Jews) ruling these countries against Islam and Muslims."

The leaders of Indonesia, Malaysia and Pakistan denounced the publication of the caricatures. Pakistan's Foreign Ministry summoned nine envoys to lodge protests against the publication of the "blasphemous" sketches.

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Associated Press writer Ibrahim Barzak in Gaza City, Gaza Strip, contributed to this report.

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Re: SUPPORT FREE SPEECH! BUY DANISH PRODUCTS!
04 Feb 2006
Free speech or hate speech?

Since only a tiny fraction of a percent of Muslims have resorted to terrorism as a responce to the offenses of others against them, labaling Mohamad as a terrorist is obviously ment as vacant insightment, which we have laws against right here.

Vacant libal against mohamed clearly is an offense to the 99.999999% of muslims who have chosen a differant responce to the offenses of others against Islam. The cartoons are clearly hate speech that would be against the laws banning insightment.
Free Speech
04 Feb 2006
There is no such thing as hate speech. "Hate speech" is just free speech when it offends or exposes the impotent ridiculousness of some uppity racial, religious, or gender group. (One that can't compete in a modern civilization).

The word is "incitement." Don't go claiming we have socialist laws on our books if you can't even spell past a 5th grade level. It just makes you look like a hack.

How can somebody take you seriously as a law expert if you don't have the signs of education?
Re: SUPPORT FREE SPEECH! BUY DANISH PRODUCTS!
04 Feb 2006
Attacking the messanger (my spelling) just showcases how you FAILED to attack the message. Which is why I never use the simple spell checker. Now that you attacked the messanger, you can't get away from attacking the message without looking like a dink.

"Incitement", well, you obviously got the point I made. Running away now will only further proove my supposition. And don't tell me it isn't a law. I beat those charges hands down in court. A real court, not the court of public opinion, where you idiots used to rule.

"uppity" ? Against WHAT exactly?

"can't compeat"? Like when the media can't compeat with the web? Like when western interloapers NEED to controle media and FEAR the web? Tribalistic propaganda can't compeat with the truth and the forces of evil run away from the light of day, like when you ran away from my post above by attacking my SPELLING. Wow, you are much man.

"can't compeat"? Poles couldn't compeat with nazis either. Does that mean nazis were something other than offensive and that Nazis had a right to invade Poland? Just what are you suggesting tha Muslims are in competition for? The right not to be villified by tribalistic westerners?
Re: SUPPORT FREE SPEECH! BUY DANISH PRODUCTS!
04 Feb 2006
Troll,

Free speech should never be abridged so as to not offend a religion. If we allowed physical intimidation every time someone said something offensive or idiotic, there'd be a lot of goons waiting in front of the front door of your apartment.
Re: SUPPORT FREE SPEECH! BUY DANISH PRODUCTS!
04 Feb 2006
As an aside, Troll, you're 100% incorrect on the "insightment" law in the US. This cartoon would be very clearly protected by the First Amendment. To be illegal, "insightment" must be concrete (e.g. "go kill person X") and it must be immediate ("and do it now"). If you have any questions, you can consult the leading US Supreme Court case on the topic, R.A.V. v. City of St. Paul (holding cross burning in constitutionally protected).

I hope your other statements are more accurate than the one about "insightment" laws in the US. Fool.
Re: SUPPORT FREE SPEECH! BUY DANISH PRODUCTS!
04 Feb 2006
"And don't tell me it isn't a law. I beat those charges hands down in court."

Where'd you go, Troll? You've been outed as a blowhard liar. Is the rest of the information you spout on this website as accurate as your data on First Amendment law in the US? Do you even realize that the Constitution governs "insightment" law?

Fool - you've been outted for what you are: a pathetic guy who, when the facts don't fit his argument, makes them up. "Insightment" law my @ss. You joke. You fraud.
Re: SUPPORT FREE SPEECH! BUY DANISH PRODUCTS!
04 Feb 2006
Flopside, what kind of eugenic nonsense are you talking about. The game is rigged.
Support ALL Free Speech
05 Feb 2006
-><-


‘Insightment’ I like this word. Let us use this term as the act of revealing insight.


The cartoons are clearly hate speech that would be against the laws banning ‘insightment’. As Martha would say, that’s a good thing. Let us do some more artwork.


These marches did not just occur randomly. I would like to know which individuals appealed to the public in order to organize them. They are obviously influential in their neighborhoods. Which leads me to conclude that they are either popular political or religious leaders.


“Religious fundamentalists heap bigotry upon themselves. They are so prohibitionist and suppressive. They march and shout death to liberalism, and have the nerve to say ‘to hell with free speech’ even though they cannot deny that their religiously inspired brethren blow themselves up, purely for the reason of speaking to the world about a place that welcomes those who enter in through horrible acts of INDISCRIMINATE violence.”


It just sickens me now, in this crucial day and age, to see thousands of sheep now twisted into despising the very free speech that this mixed up oppressive world of politics and religion has always lacked in its defiance of democratic order and justice.


https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2006/01/332645.html?c=on#c141282


Until the established religionists speak against those of their flocks who promote scapegoats and violence, we will see an exponential rise in violence, like the Skinheads in Russia who swarm and savagely beat anyone who does not look like one of them but looks like ‘one of them’, or like the Aussie riots, among others.


You mark my words; the Vatican will still not yield. She needs Her scapegoats, and She is now determined to call the shots with Her five Justices on the Supreme Court.


[‘PIPE’ DREAM: Many cameras will prove that we have no concealed weapons when we all get naked, hold our hands in the air, and march on Washington. Anyone wearing even a belt will not be counted as part of our march. This will be made known beforehand. We will do this because meaningful marches - unlike Islamic marches to stifle free speech - require government provocateurs to distort our image and grievances, which fail to receive mainstream focus.


This time we will only ask the US Government to stay out of our way, as we, in the spirit of Martin Luther King Jr., question those religious groups which exercise a ‘democratic’ advantage over individual First Amendment rights. At this time we will only ask that established religious leaders speak for the oppressed and suppressed scapegoats that are being driven to violence. We will refrain from questioning their tax-exempt worthiness.


This time the world will determine if the Capitol Police made a mistake. This will happen on the Eleventh of March – one half year away from September 11.]


You mark my words though; the Vatican will not yield to such a march. She needs Her veil and scapegoats too, and I see that She is now determined to call the shots with Her historically rapid (since John Paul II) accumulation of five Justices on the Supreme Court. Brace your tushies non-believers, here is something historically believable… (You read it here.)


~ Richard Kobzey February 5, 2006
You Read It Here
05 Feb 2006
You remember my name, Richard Kobzey, and you watch the US government come to extradite me with some frivolous charge that will only give credence to my message.


I am sick of lame people with lame excuses who listen to lame people with lame condemnations who lame society. There is no innocence in ignorance - damn it!


~ A lion of the Tribe of Scapegoats
Re: SUPPORT FREE SPEECH! BUY DANISH PRODUCTS!
05 Feb 2006
Liar? Maybe.

Master baiter? Right on the money.

Now, YOUR arguments that it is NOT incitment but just offensive hate speech speeks volumes. Lets continue from this point where you have already disagreed with YOUR OWN original suppositions that Muslims are over reacting with thier boycott and the cartoons are NOT inflamitory because they acuratly present a (YOUR) prejudiced viewpoint.

Yuk yuk yuk, this is too easy. I high balled you and you gave me what I was hoping you would. I sure don't mind looking like a fool for a few hours as long as you end up stating your oh so predictable mind. Now isYOUR chance to look like the fool IF you don't run away from your own contradictory suppositions (plural) and figure out what your REAL position is. Well, which one is it?

How do you think I beat the incitment rap? With the same arguments you presented? Duh. And they tried, and failed, to bait me the same way I baited you.
Re: SUPPORT FREE SPEECH! BUY DANISH PRODUCTS!
05 Feb 2006
Are you new at Boston IMC? Everyone else knows that I am a master baiter.
Re: SUPPORT FREE SPEECH! BUY DANISH PRODUCTS!
05 Feb 2006
My point was to refute your incorrect statement about "insightment" law in the US. In contrast to what you said, cartoons insulting religious people aren't illegal. By contrast, burning down a building to protest it would be. These are not my opinions - they are those of the Supreme Court interpreting the First Amendment.

Kapeesh, you lying clown?
Re: SUPPORT FREE SPEECH! BUY DANISH PRODUCTS!
05 Feb 2006
And my point was to get you to admit it was hate speech all along. Check out my first sentance." Free speech or hate speech?" You admitted it is both. The fact that I employ "artistic license" as bait doesn't change that fact.

Thousands protest in syria. Yep, and even if it were 17000, which it wasn't even close to, that would still be only 1/10 of a percent of Syrians protesting. And of the much less than 1/10 of a percent of Syrians protesting, what percent actualy started fires??? Come on, you can see the video, can't you? Can't you tell us? But there you are, suggesting that the thousands of Syrians protesting and the millions of muslims boycotting Nordic products (the jist of your original article) were lighting fires. Thats a mighty wide brush you are using to villify Muslims, ain't it???

For all we know, that handfull of "Syrians" lighting fires could have been mossad false flag agents. A proZionist rag prints inflamitory cartoons. Much later (obviously, the Muslim's responce had to be nurtured and pushed by someone or it would have been spontanious), Muslims respond . And you end up comparing Muslims boycotting nordic products to a handfull of people lighting fires. You are as predictible as the Muslims were to hate speech.

Reponses are limited in number. Look at how Americans around here responded to Nazi marches. And why did they respond thus??? Because neo-Nazis also employ hate speech. Why, many anti-Nazis were openly calling for a violent responce to neo-Nazi "free speech" just as we see in Musim lands today.

And I prefer "strategicly misleading bafoon".

Yep, just google TheTroll + IMC and you can see many times when I emloy lowballing and highballing tactics. But these are not the dark ages. People have every oportunity to varify everything I write. if they are prejudicialy inclined not to learn the truth on thier own, there isn't much I can do about thier prejudices.

But I sure know how to bust you out for your prejudices, don't I??? Yep, your responces are as limited, and thus, as predictible as everybody else's responces are.
Re: SUPPORT FREE SPEECH! BUY DANISH PRODUCTS!
05 Feb 2006
Support free speech. Buy neo-Nazi CDs, posters, t-shirts, flags, etc.

Good luck to anyone who tries to sell you on that idea. It ain't gonna fly is it???
Re: SUPPORT FREE SPEECH! BUY DANISH PRODUCTS!
05 Feb 2006
"Support free speech. Buy neo-Nazi CDs, posters, t-shirts, flags, etc. "

Are you selling them new, or do are you selling your used ones?
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com
Re: SUPPORT FREE SPEECH! BUY DANISH PRODUCTS!
05 Feb 2006
Where did I use the term "hate speech?" I knew you couldn't spell, but am surprised that you can't read either.

Furthermore, I 100% support peoples right to buy neo-Nazi stuff if they want. I think they're idiotic, but they are certainly welcome to buy it.

Additionally, I didn't blame all muslims as you'd like to believe - I simply said that we should support Danes, never that we should blame all muslims.

You're so full of sh!t, you wannabe. You sit behind your computer and type and type. I guarentee that you are a lame, nerdy little dude with a pathetic life who hasn't the nuts to ever leave the TV and computer and actually attend a protest. I am 100% positive that you'd never even share your views with another person face-to-face. You sucker, fake, fraud, pathetic human.
Re: SUPPORT FREE SPEECH! BUY DANISH PRODUCTS!
05 Feb 2006
"I guarentee that you are a lame, nerdy little dude with a pathetic life who hasn't the nuts to ever leave the TV and computer and actually attend a protest."

Your just mking fun of me because i have s small penis. Well I'll tell you, thats the Zionists invadors fault.
Re: SUPPORT FREE SPEECH! BUY DANISH PRODUCTS!
05 Feb 2006
The pigs of Denmark have no free speech
as they are held in cages and murdered
Re: SUPPORT FREE SPEECH! BUY DANISH PRODUCTS!
05 Feb 2006
OK, now the Muslims revenged themselves. They can stop burnig embassies now. But seriously, these types of images appear daily in the Arab press.

Dutch Islamists post cartoons depicting Anne Frank, Hitler in bed (as "revenge")
Haaretz ^ | 5 Feb 2005 | News Agencies

Posted on 02/05/2006 11:39:31 AM PST by indcons

A Belgian-Dutch Islamic political organization posted anti-Jewish cartoons on its Web site in response to the cartoons of the prophet Mohammed that appeared in Danish papers last year and offended many Muslims.

The cartoons were posted on the Arab European League's site on Saturday. It was not working Sunday morning because of exceeded bandwidth.

The cartoons depicting Mohammed wearing a turban-shaped bomb were first published in Denmark, and then in newspapers elsewhere in Europe in a show of solidarity with press freedoms.

The Islamic site carried a disclaimer saying the images were being shown as part of an exercise in free speech rather than to endorse their content - just as European newspapers have reprinted the Danish cartoons.

One of the AEL cartoons displayed an image of Dutch Holocaust victim Anne Frank in bed with Adolf Hitler, and another questioned whether the Holocaust actually occurred.

Dyab Abou Jahjah, the party's founder and best-known figure, defended the action on the Dutch television program Nova Saturday.

"Europe has its sacred cows, even if they're not religious sacred cows," he told the program.
Re: SUPPORT FREE SPEECH! BUY DANISH PRODUCTS!
05 Feb 2006
Call people names as you sit back and enjoy your Jolly Cola. I don't mind. All my points were made, some by you, even if you don't have the nads to use certain words.
Re: SUPPORT FREE SPEECH! BUY DANISH PRODUCTS!
05 Feb 2006
Troll: Please define hate speech.
Re: SUPPORT FREE SPEECH! BUY DANISH PRODUCTS!
05 Feb 2006
When iZonists say thay want to defend their citizens who are Invadors and bloodsoaked.

This is hate speech and it upset the poor palestinians and their land and theft and things
Re: SUPPORT FREE SPEECH! BUY DANISH PRODUCTS!
05 Feb 2006
Ok, then. You failed the quiz. Go back to school...or madrassa.
Re: SUPPORT FREE SPEECH! BUY DANISH PRODUCTS!
05 Feb 2006
Troll,

I would be $1 million that you live a really pathetic life. I'd give odds too. You are pathetic.
Re: SUPPORT FREE SPEECH! BUY DANISH PRODUCTS!
05 Feb 2006
http://www.zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/
Controversy over the publication of images depicting Mohammed in the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten has erupted into an international furor. While Muslims worldwide are calling for a boycott of Denmark and any other nation whose press reprints the cartoons, Europeans are trying to stand up for Western principles of freedom of speech and not cave in to self-censorship in the name of multiculturalism and fear.

While the debate rages, an important point has been overlooked: despite the Islamic prohibition against depicting Mohammed under any circumstances, hundreds of paintings, drawings and other images of Mohammed have been created over the centuries, with nary a word of complaint from the Muslim world. The recent cartoons in Jyllands-Posten are nothing new; it's just that no other images of Mohammed have ever been so widely publicized.

This page is an archive of numerous depictions of Mohammed, to serve as a reminder that such imagery has been part of Western and Islamic culture since the Middle Ages -- and to serve as a resource for those interested in freedom of expression.
Re: SUPPORT FREE SPEECH! BUY DANISH PRODUCTS!
05 Feb 2006
Sid, you responded to a false flag The Troll. And kiss my ass. You always run away like the big nothing you present yourself as. Why should I bother with a punk ass nothing like you?

pathetic as it is or isn't, you still made my points better than I could ever hope to. I guess you never heard of jolly cola? In denmark, they don't sell Coke or Pepsi as they have been boycotting US brands to promote thier own products. The reason that I know this is that I have spent 3 pathetic summers in Europe. 90% of that pathetic time in Amsterdam.

But I really do enjoy busting out people's offensive prejudices. It doesn't take long and is a real treat to rip someone's soul out, toss it on the ground, stomp on it, piss on it, and then hand it back to them while I am laughing my ass off. And it is a major treat for me when the prejudiced piece of trash actualy helps me in doing so by making my point for me. Thanks for the memories.
Polish Much?
07 Feb 2006
I did attack the message: It is the product of a retarded messenger feigning legal expertise. Therefore it is spurious.

You spell like Ted Kaczynski, the insane Pole.

You even talked about Poland.
Re: SUPPORT FREE SPEECH! BUY DANISH PRODUCTS!
12 Feb 2006
Please send me online addresses where I can purchase danish products. We support you.