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Announcement :: Organizing
Flyers for March 18th - March and Rally
03 Mar 2006
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Re: Flyers for March 18th - March and Rally
03 Mar 2006
Are there any flyers made in spanish or hatian creole?
Re: Flyers for March 18th - March and Rally
04 Mar 2006
This is just another IAC/ANSWER dominated event. If you check the website, the demands are listed in the same way that the IAC always lists theirs. also, at the bottom of the site the contact info reads:
617-522-6626 iacboston (at) iacboston.org www.iacboston.org
212-633-6646 www.troopsoutnow.org

every time you hold one of these demonstrations someone from the IAC gets up on the mic and talks about how we should "make the country ungovernable." what the fuck are you talking about? practice what you preach.
also, i am so sick of the IAC's factionalism and their refusal to work with anyone who either isn't them or refuses to submit to their domination. at protests they isolate anarchists, radicals, and youth organizers from the crowd, sometimes separating them and other times pointing them out to the police.

i hope everyone who goes has fun marching behind the IAC/ANSWER truck. i hope you enjoy "making the country ungovernable" on your permitted march.
Re: Flyers for March 18th - March and Rally
04 Mar 2006
"End Colonial Occupation of Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Haiti & Puerto Rico!"

Why is it that the IAC always focuses on these countries? Why not talk about other countries where the US is militarily involved, like South Korea, the Phillipines, or Columbia just to name a few?

Also, on their ridiculously long list of demands, why isn't their any criticism of capitalism? why do they never mention any of the companies that are profiting off the war (like raytheon, bechtel, halliburton, KBR, etc)? The US dominates countries economically more than they do militarily. Why is there no resistance to the Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA) which just went into effect in El Salvador and will soon go into effect in 5 other Central American countries? Why doesn't the IAC (or UJP and other major liberal/antiwar groups) ever mention the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund (IMF), the World Trade Organization (WTO), or the Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA)?

On another note, demanding a living wage and a right to organize is completely reasonable, but why have a demand that is "Union Jobs"? That is something that people have to organize themselves, not something that can be handed down. Why is there such a reliance on making demands from those in power instead of relying on each other to actually struggle for what we want? Don't have a protest to demand union jobs, get out there and unionize if that's what you want.
Also, "Equal, Quality Education is a Right" is not a demand. Are you making demands of the people or the government? Or did it just sound better to include it?
Re: Flyers for March 18th - March and Rally
04 Mar 2006
It's unfortunate that IAC got managed to weasel their way into dominating this local observence of an international day of action against the war in Iraq. But I still plan to build for this and attend because IAC shouldn't be the only "radical voice" on the streets of Roxbury.

WWP appears to be much more reformist and opportunist than usual lately. They are Chuck Turner's new tail. Word on the street is that the whole Rosa Parks/IAC thing is a vehicle for Chuck's mayoral run.

As far as March 18 goes, I'd suggest attending with lots of literature, banners, NON-IAC placards, maybe an alternative sound system. It might be good to build for this with our own leaflets.

In short, we should save March 18th from the people organizing it.
Re: Flyers for March 18th - March and Rally
05 Mar 2006
Yeah IAC, WWP and/or ANSWER are authoritarian central planners and way whack...but you know what...they are one of the ONLY groups to reach out to and mobilize with people of color in Boston. So stop whining and start working in solidarity with Roxbury on issues that people in that community are demanding…than no one will need IAC, WWP and/or ANSWER. Don't go to support them...go and March to stand in solidarity with people of color in Boston!
Re: Flyers for March 18th - March and Rally
05 Mar 2006
no. we shouldnt attend their rally and we shouldnt reluctantly take part in their bullshit. we should organize our own things and work directly across race and class lines. the problem with your assumptions is that we do not have to have one big stupid permitted march. we should organize various actions, our own actions, so that we can have autonomy but also so that we can do something effective.
www.operationover.freeyouth.net
Re: Flyers for March 18th - March and Rally
05 Mar 2006
Unite against racism Sexism and War...join your local Jihadist islamic group...
(Islam is inherently intolerant, sexist and has been aggressively warlike since mohamed started raiding caravans and slaughtering people who didn't follow his bogus cult
Re: Flyers for March 18th - March and Rally
05 Mar 2006
hmm raiding caravans versus the crusades... oh and not to mention the invasion and occupation of the Americas, plus the genocide of the indigenous people here.... if you're going to say such stupid things at least make them on topic
Re: Flyers for March 18th - March and Rally
05 Mar 2006
At almost every ANSWER/Workers World Party demonstration for the last three years or so the fascist/white supremacists show up and stand menacingly on the edge of the demonstration (sometimes, like at the Gay Wedding Day rally, they stand right in front of the speakers platform.)

The Workers World dominated security force for the demonstration usually tells people to ignore the ‘fascists.’

Sometimes the International Socialist Organization, the Spartacist League, and Progressive Labor get together and start chanting and confronting the ‘fascists.’ But the people with the sound system do nothing to mobilize the crowd.

Hundreds of people chanting and raising their fists in the air can force the half a dozen ‘fascists’ to leave the area for their own protection. Ignoring them only encourages them to come back next time with a few more cohorts.

When we start having thirty or fifty fascists standing on the edge of leftist/progressive demonstrations we will all be in danger. The time to plan to militantly confront the ‘fascists’ is now while there numbers are small and their organizational confidence is low.

But don’t look to Workers World to prepare for this danger at this demonstration. They seek to keep things “peaceful, legal,” so that ministers and imams can call on ‘god’ from the podium and Democratic Party politicians, like Democratic City Councilor Charles Turner, can feel comfortable speaking from the stage and getting their names in the newspaper addressing a demonstration of hundreds or thousands. We must face this ‘fascist’ danger now.
Re: Flyers for March 18th - March and Rally
05 Mar 2006
I agree with "youth", but the fact it that we CANNOT work across race line unless you work in Roxbury and Dorchester and to work there you have to build trust and relationships with the people living there...which the white activist community HAS NOT DONE by and large. Unfortunately ANSWER has (one thing is they actually have their meetings in Roxbury), Yes they are whack...but to boycott one of the only marches and rallies starting in a community of color in Boston is way whack too. Go to the march and start building alliances with the groups and organizations of color than. Until we do the work on the ground, we cannot talk.
Re: Flyers for March 18th - March and Rally
05 Mar 2006
One thing that ANSWER does is actually have their meeting in Roxbury! This is key to organizing, having meetings in a place that is accessible to people. Another thing they do is to always put the issues of racism and poverty up front, along with war etc...(even if you feel they are disingenuous about it), they also mobilize in community of color around issues in those communities...now I’m not defending them as an organization, I think they are super whack and authoritarian. But damn it, they are succeeding where other (mostly white) activist groups have failed...I think these are some of the reasons why…and if we as NON-ANWSER non-authoritarian people want to start building alliances and working in solidarity with communities of color, we should take note of how they are doing it.
Re: Flyers for March 18th - March and Rally
06 Mar 2006
if there's one thing that's unpleasant is activists attacking other activists when we should be working in solidarity against the war. This event is the best effort I've seen to make the connection bt. war, poverty and race. Ego aside, I'm going to the protest...
Re: Flyers for March 18th - March and Rally
06 Mar 2006
yo 'distrust'... ever heard of the BU biolab? Ever heard of Operation: Over? Ever heard of SafetyNet? you should check out what's going on there.
Re: Flyers for March 18th - March and Rally
06 Mar 2006
if you are going to complain about factionalism and dividing "the movement" then why didn't you complain when the fucking ANSWER truck cut the youth bloc and anarchists off from the rest of the protest at the last large antiwar rally? THEY are dividing people, and us refusing to work with them is totally legitimate. Those of us who do not want to work with ANSWER are not dividing a movement because we are not part of a movement with authoritarians who believe that they have some sort of right or power to rule how things are going to happen. they are taking power away from the people and acting like the absurd vanguardist organization they are- trying to lead the masses without the people's consent. Just because we refuse to follow them doesn't mean we are being factionalist, it means we seek autonomy- the power to make our own decisions.
Re: Flyers for March 18th - March and Rally
07 Mar 2006
Eric I think your critique of ANSWER is correct. However I do not think boycotting the event is a solution. I think it is possible to attend the march in solidarity with people of color and their issues and not me "following" answer, this can be the first step in building strong trusting coalitions with groups like safety net, BWA and D7 Roundtable that are, yes, already working in their own communities. The fact that when I work with these groups I see zero anti-authoritarians in attendance or involved for the most part is a huge problem I’m sure we can agree.
Re: Flyers for March 18th - March and Rally
07 Mar 2006
My personal experience w/the local anarchist community has been really negative so far. Every protest that I've been to, they do nothing but complain about how the "iac" the "WWW" the "socialists" the this and that leaves them out the game... It's quite sad, really.

And the truth is, I don't hear those groups complaining about you... So what's up with that?

Adam, I have no idea why you bring Operation: Over to this conversation. I think they're doing a great job, but they don't work PERSE with the black community. Their focus is BU, which is fine by me. Safety Net does...

But when was the last time that the Boston anarchists organized an event in Roxbury, reached out to the community there to publicize it? Where were they during the Rosa Parks march?

Solidarity, please!!
Re: Flyers for March 18th - March and Rally
07 Mar 2006
Eric,
You (and everyone) have some valid criticisms of IAC but the gripe about Oct 29 and the yputh bloc is just plain wrong.

When the youth bloc cut the corner at Tremont and Park and then proceeded to move faster than the rest of the march, you cut yourselves off. You also committed the offense that IAC is so often accused of- being a vanguard.

IAC does lots of fucked up shit but as far as Oct 29th goes, you might as well blame Cindy Sheehan and everybody else behind the youth bloc who didn't keep up with the vanguard.

I'm not trying to attack you on this but that's what happened. A better example of IAC using the truck to divide would be the March 2003 demo that they hijacked in Copley Sq.
Re: Flyers for March 18th - March and Rally
07 Mar 2006
i waited and waited for an "antiauthoritarian" anti-war movement and it never came. antiauthoritarianism is for people with "daddy issues"