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News :: International
17 May 2006
Modified: 06:53:04 PM
It reviews recent events and opinion polls in Israel.
Many Israeli Jews celebrated Israeli Independence Day (according to the Hebrew calendar) not long ago. Many more Israeli Jews had fun a couple of weeks later, on Lag B'Omer, while thousands of Israel's Arab citizens decried the "Nakba" (The Catastrophe), namely the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948 (according to the general calendar) with a day of mourning among Israel's Arab community. That says everything...

So while the Jews were happy and dancing, first on Independence Day, then on the anniversary of Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochi's death (over 300,000 near his grave in Meron alone), the Arabs were crying over the tragedies that befell them. Isn't that just the way it should be?

Well, Happy Nakba Day!

For example in Lod, a Jewish city with Arabs living there, over 1,500 Arabs attended a "Nakba Day" rally. So did some Arab Knesset members, such as Azmi Bishara. "This is a day of mourning for the Palestinian people," MK Jamal Zahalka said. "Lod is a special place for us, because it is here that the massacre [?] of 1948 took place at the Great Mosque, and that is why the city has become a symbol for us. Our message is that we will never forget and never forgive for what happened. We have come here to say that the Arab population will remain in Lod forever."

Several major attacks by Arab forces occurred in the Lod area during Israel's War of Independence. Lod and Ramle were counter-attacked by the IDF because they were on the Tel Aviv-Jerusalem road and convoys attempting to resupply and reinforce Jerusalem had to travel through the streets of the two towns, routinely under fire. The IDF could not afford to allow Jerusalem to be cut off from the rest of the country.

Yitzhak Rabin, then a commander involved in the operation, later said he agreed with Ben-Gurion's order to expel the Arabs of Ramle and Lod. The Arabs in Lod were "armed and hostile," Rabin said, presenting a danger, and they had to be driven away. Fighting with Arab gunmen took place, but no massacre occurred, the enemy during wartime was dealt a heavy blow.

Lod is a town where till this day; the Arab population has been consistently harassing the Jewish population. See my article, "The Jewish Struggle Against Arabs in Israel".

"This is our memorial day," National Democratic Assembly member Gabi Tanus said in Lod. "It is more important to us than the Holocaust is to the Jewish nation."

Notice the Arabs suffered more than the Jews did from the Holocaust...

Happy Nakba day!

Lag B'Omer by the way, also marks the end of a period of deaths, of thousands of Rabbi Akiva's students. Tradition tells us that 24,000 died during a plague. Rabbi Akiva was an arms smuggler during Bar Kochba's revolt against the Roman occupation of Judea (according to Maimonides). Others surmise, they died in the battles to liberate Judea from the Roman occupation. Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochi (one of Rabbi Akiva's top students), was forced to flee for his life and hide in a cave. There, he and his son studied Torah night and day for 13 years, till the "secrets of creation" were revealed to him. His teachings were later written down as "The Zohar," the Book of Splendor, the "Bible" of Jewish Mysticism.

So just as the Jews of Judea fought and gained independence from the "super-power of their time" the Roman Empire, for 3 and a half years, Modern Israel finally gained independence, over 1,800 years later.

And the Arabs? They sit and weep, just as Jews did for those intervening 1,800 years. The only difference is that the Arabs are a recent settler population, who came to the Land of Israel only in the last hundred years or so, and have no real connection to this place, in spite of their weeping (and terrorism). See my article, "Who is a Palestinian Refugee".

Notice they are not mourning the loss of the 1967 territories, but all of "Palestine". Coming up in a little over a week is Jerusalem Day. Jews the world over will celebrate the liberation of Eastern Jerusalem, with it's Temple Mount and Western Wall. Hebron, Judea, Samaria, and the Golan Heights were all delivered out of the hands of the Arab occupiers and into the hands of their rightful Jewish owners.

Israeli Arabs were never a happy bunch even though they have full civil equality. But in recent years, there has been growing active involvement from their community with "Palestinian" terrorists from the Palestinian Authority. Combined with their recent (since Oslo) vocal repudiation of Israeli Independence Day as their "Catastrophe;" it has been proven to many Israeli Jews, what they always suspected, Israeli Arabs are not trustworthy.

According to the Israel Democracy Institute's recent study, the "2006 Democracy Index," only 14% feel that relations between Jews and Arabs are good in Israel and 62% of Israelis would like to see the government actively encourage Arabs to leave Israel through financial incentives (the poll includes Israeli Arabs, so the figure for Israeli Jews must be even higher).

Professor Asher Arian (who conducted the survey), said he was not surprised by the support expressed for encouraging the Arabs to leave. "This has been a stable sentiment in the Israeli Jewish public for many years," he said. "The public is both cynical and very Zionist." He pointed out that if the survey were carried out right after a terrorist attack, the numbers would have been even higher in support of encouraging Arabs to leave.

The Tami Steinmetz Center for Peace Research of Tel Aviv University, found in their latest, "Peace Index: March 2006" (conducted on April 3-4, 2006, after the Israeli elections), a clear majority of Jews are against expelling more Jewish "settlers" from their homes. When questioned whether Israel should act unilaterally to set its final borders (Olmert's Convergence/Expulsion Plan) or continue the existing situation (leave the Jewish settlements alone) and wait until conditions are ripe for renewing contacts with the PA, 44% said they were for maintaining the status quo, whereas only 41% favored acting unilaterally to expel Jews from their homes. Don't forget this poll too included about 20% Arab respondents.

Maybe Israel will one day soon, decide to solve its "Arab security and demographic problem," the way most Jews in Israel would it like to, not by expelling Jews from parts of their ancestral homeland, but by removing "the thorns in our side," (Numbers 33:55).

I just want to wish all of Israel's "good Arab citizens," Happy Nakba Day!

Ariel Natan Pasko is an independent analyst & consultant. He has a Master's Degree specializing in International Relations, Political Economy, and Policy Analysis. He also has a degree in Jewish History & Thought. His articles appear regularly on numerous news/views and think-tank websites, in newspapers, and can be read at:

(c) 2006/5766 Pasko

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You Ain't Seen Nothin Yet, Naaaakbaaaah
17 May 2006
Soon Israel will declare its borders. It will be another Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaakbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

17 May 2006
Feller, you do realize that you come off sounding like a complete idiot, right?
17 May 2006
Independance??? From whom? Thier chosen Palestinian victims??? The English who supported the Zionist's invasion of Palestine like nazis aided Hungarian invadors of Slovakia???

"Ancestral homeland"??? Herews were 1 of many foriegn invadors of the land. How does the fact that Hebrews were murderous thieves of the land make Palestine a Jewish homeland any more than an italian homeland, or a Turkish homeland, or a greek homeland, or even a Brittish homeland??? Hebrews being murderous thieves of the land is a piss poor pretext for ZIonists to ALSO be murderous thieves of the land.

Palestinians are not Arabs. It took the locals 200 years to adopt Arabic as thier own language. Sorry, but the only Arabs who need to learn Arabic are babies. genetics shows that palestinians are the same as jews. So, either Palestinians are descended from the cannanite slave girls who were raped by Hebrew invadors for 1200 years, or they are the lost tribes of Israel returned (with sleep in thier eyes and knowing NOT of thier past) as the Bible says they would return, or a combination of the 2 groups. Either way, they were NOT murderous thieves of the land as the ZIonists ARE.

But this clown saying "Arabs" don't have a claim to the land is a vacant attempt to marginalize the Palestinian's basic human right not to be destroyed by Zionist invadors who's ONLY claim to the land is that Hebrews were ALSO murderous thieves of the land

That joker packo is real good at parroting out vacant propaganda. It is a good thing his rant is so transparant and easy to trash. Only braindead idiots still buy into such crap. And they do that out of thier own vile selfserving prejudices
Existential Reality
17 May 2006
Israel is Real. Palestine is Not. One is There. One is Not.
18 May 2006
wouldn't it be amazing if teh people on this god damned site stopped seeing their axes and started seeing the everyday PEOPLE who live in that area of the world? Isrealiis, Palestinians, forgotten Christian sects, people from all over the world? do we have to hate palestinians OR israeliis? can't we just hate policy(whichever side of teh debate you ar eon) instead of all the thousands upon thsouds upon thousands of people who happen to have been born palestinian or israelii that none of us could ever possibley meet all of even if we spent every day for the rest of lives trying?

man it sure is easy to hate people when they are far away, isn't it? Poor god damned people over there, all fucked up and no one has any idea how to solve the problems so everyone- and i do mean EVERYONE- can land somewhere decent. . . . . isn't it just a fucking shame? Do you hate all the six year olds, all the little old ninety year old women, ALL the people of the side of teh conflict you happen to be against? ALL Palestinians? ALL Jews? How sad. . . how sad. . . how sad. . . . . .

is there, was there ever, some way taht everyone in the region could have been served? before all these horrors?
18 May 2006
What you call "Israel" is Zionist occupied Palestine. Just because ZIonists ARE murderous thieves of the Palestinian's homeland is a piss poor pretext/rationalization for appeasing or enabaling the murderous thieving Zionist crusaders who continue stealing palestinian lands and continue murdering Palestinains who resist the theft as well as palestinains the ZIonist crusaders define as being in the wrong place.

Recognize "Israel". Recognize it for what it is: Zionist occupation AND destruction of Palestinian lives.

Your idea that because ZIonists are murderous thieves of palestinian lands that ZIonists have a birthright of murderous theft of Palestinian lands really shows how limited your rant is becoming. But when all you got is the Zionist's tired old propaganda, what else could we expect from you?
18 May 2006
Pasko is a hatefreak. So are all the usual suspects who turn out every time there's a remotely Israel-related article on Indymedia.

All you need to do to turn "Feller" into "the troll" and vice versa is to swap the hate-object between their screeds. The Arab-haters and the anti-Semites are truly brothers under the skin.

And the fact that this article is still on the newswire is yet another example of how prostrate moderation on this site has become.
The Troll Ain't Heavy He's My Brother
18 May 2006
I love you man.
18 May 2006
Anti-semites??? Since when do you need to be anti-semetic to respect the Palestinian's basic human right NOT to be destroyed by Zionist invadors???

What, I trash the vile propaganda of Zionist enablers and I get labled anti-semetic??? Either add substance to your offensive allegation, or keep looking like a flacid prick.
19 May 2006
Even if Germans once ruled Bohemia and Moravia and even if ethnic Germans lived in the Sudaten Mountains, Nazis had no right to be murderous thieves of Czechoslovakian lands. There, does saying that make me anti-German??? Zionists use the same BS rationalizations in thier bloodsoaked invasion of palestine that the Nazis used to invade Czechoslovakia.

If you choose to appease the offenses of Zionists for peace in our time (though it doesn't mean peace for palestinians any more than Chamberlands appeasment ment peace for Czechs),then that is your business. If you choose to be an enabler of murderous thieving Zionist crusaders, again, that is your sin. But as long as Democraps and Republitrash use public taxes to finance the offense of Zionism and sell out America's peace for thier own political gain, then I got something to say about that. And you are an asshole if you try to suggest I, or any American, is somehow (?, never NEVER explained) offensive for doing so.

Do you know what your problem is? Your problem is that you are a troll. name calling? Shit, anyone could do that much.
19 May 2006
Boston IMC is hacked. Now that this article is off the scroll, hackers have loaded moronic posts on just about every article Boston IMC ever posted to make it difficult to check out recent comments. it really showcases how some people with lots of time on thier hands, probably being paid, hate HATE free discourse and try to prevent you from having an opinion in public. It is a form of bookburning and it is Boston IMC and people who might learn something who are the victims.

It really shows you how pathetic and sad and manipulative some people really are. They can't deal with open discourse, so they try to muddy the waters and HIDE. they run away from the real and HIDE. Pathetic.
19 May 2006
How do we know this is the article they are trying to hide is a sea of moronic crap??? It is the only article not also getting the moronic crap. I'm sure there are others that are ALSO not included in the crap fest. But I bet they also have something to do with the ZIonist's bloodsoaked crusade. I could be wrong, but that is my bet