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houston IndyMedia Org CENSORS story's and comments by removing (english)
07 Mar 2003
Modified: 08 Mar 2003
While browsing http://houston.indymedia.org and reading some articles
that appeard to ask some valid questions, the page refreshed and the
comments were gone. The only thing that remained was the original
storuy on one, and comments that opposed what the author proposed.
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While browsing http://houston.indymedia.org and reading some articles that appeard to ask some valid questions, the page refreshed and the comments were gone. The only thing that remained was the original storuy on one, and comments that opposed what the author proposed.
Here is one thread that disappeared entirely..

I posted it to our list of over 5000 Vets, Family & Friends Nationally
so I was lucky I had copied before they removed, What are they affraid of? What happened to the click word TOLLERANCE, open minded,
among other politically correct jargon????

Pro-War Rally Dwarfs Anti-War Rally
by Bo Diddly Saturday March 01, 2003 at 11:53 PM

By ALLAN TURNER
Copyright 2003 Houston Chronicle

Buster Dean / Chronicle
A Houston Police officer stands by while U.S. Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Houston, gives an interview after the 'Rally for America,' today downtown.

Cheering, chanting and waving flags, thousands jammed shoulder to shoulder into downtown Houston's Jones Plaza today to hear politicians, soldiers
and
entertainers praise God, America and President Bush's firm stand against Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.

The ostensibly nonpartisan "Rally for America," sponsored by talk radio station KPRC, quickly turned into a spirited affirmation of Bush's policies.
Speakers
included House Majority Leader Rep. Tom DeLay, House Deputy Whip Kevin Brady and City Councilman Michael Berry.

The only speaker who opposes military intervention in Iraq, Houston U.S. Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, was greeted with boos as she stepped onto the
stage
midway through the two-hour rally. She and her party later were led from the plaza under protective police guard.

KPRC spokeswoman Melissa Brezner said 8,000 to 10,000 people attended the event. "This is not anti-war and it's not pro-war. It's not leaning either
way," she
said as the event began at noon.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/special/iraq/1800861

and here this dipshit states he was successful in disrupting the Pro USA/TROOP Rally.. Not in HIS lifetime.
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Yahoo! ID: edix2001
Real Name: Edwin Johnston
Location: Houston, TX
Age: 43
Marital Status: Long-term Relationship
Gender: Male
Occupation: Slacker


Pro-War rally downtown
by Edwin Johnston Saturday March 01, 2003 at 04:50 PM
edi (at) hal-pc.org

Dittoheads

The right-wingers held their rally downtown today at Jones Plaza. Indeed they had a larger group than the anti-war rally on Feb. 15th. This is no doubt due to the
fact that it was promoted over KPRC radio, which has a much larger listenership than KPFT radio, which was the only station to promote the Feb. 15th rally.
It was the usual fare of God, guts and country that we've seen before, featuring Rep. Tom "the Hammer" DeLay and Houston City councilmember Michael Berry,
who had voted against the "peace resolution" this past week in city council. (NB - the local Republicans have drafted their own resolution for city council to adopt.

I don't know if a councilmember will propose it to the mayor.)
Also on hand for the event today was Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, an outspoken opponent of Bush's war, who was horribly booed at the rally. Some people had
signs opposing her.
Several counterdemonstrators showed up, including a man who burned copies of the Confederate flag. I was dressed conservatively and managed to disable
the sound system several times. What a hoot!
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But what do these anti-US-Anti-war--anti-troops people do in thie spare time?
Well Edwin was trounced by his own...
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Pacifica Foundation Executive Director, Bessie Wash, interrupted the regularly scheduled broadcast of Democracy Now! this morning to personally attack and
libel me in regards to an incident at KPFT in Houston on Friday night. This broadcast went out nationally to all the Pacifica stations; NYC, LA, Berkeley,
Washington, DC and Houston as well as many other affiliated stations across the US and over the internet worldwide. Ms. Wash, falsely claimed that I violently
assaulted KPFT employee Molly O'Brien and praised a KPFT volunteer for stepping in to help her. The fact of the matter is that O'Brien assaulted one of the
protestors with me at KPFT, then her husband, Garland Ganter, who is the manager at KPFT, assaulted me twice. Then I was assaulted by the same volunteer
that Ms. Walsh had praised. I was later arrested and charged with two counts of assault based on false reports to police by Ganter and O'Brien. For more info
and partial audio of Ms. Wash's personal comments, see my post on Houston Indymedia below. The audio link (1/2 meg download) is listed just below my initial
post on the topic, as a secondary comment.
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watch for him at the next rally in support of Nation & Our Troops.

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Some comments :

Rally for America
by CougarCajun Saturday March 01, 2003 at 06:38 PM

Yeah. That's right. Two police estimates had the crowd at 10,000 people. More than twice the "anti-America" rally on Feb 15th, and we didn't have to bus people

in. At least we were able to have a little humor at the power problem, and the speakers still completed their speeches.

Go back to Florida, Eddie - and find some more Gore ballots to count. Waaaahhhhhh.

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Edwin the censor
by Oz Saturday March 01, 2003 at 08:26 PM

Quoting the EGO: EDWIN>>>"I was dressed conservatively and managed to disable the sound system several times. What a hoot!"

Considering how you squealed to the FCC to shut down Montrose Radio, this comes as no suprise. It is not that the message is right wing or left wing, only so
long as you disagree with it is it worthy of censoring.

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Rally For America
by CougarCajun Saturday March 01, 2003 at 08:42 PM

10000 people. Channel 26 and two police estimates can this figure. Even the Houston Chronicle gives an estimate between 8000-10000.

BOO-YAH

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Cheap Trick
by Connie Saturday March 01, 2003 at 09:49 PM

I find it amusing that you must resort to cheap tricks to silence your perceived opponent.If you are as right as you think you are..wouldn't substance be
enough?Keep on with your adolescent pranks and don't forget to thank our military and president for saving your sorry ass!

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Your in my crosshairs
by plainoleamerican Sunday March 02, 2003 at 08:08 AM

Your antics have won you a spot on my most wanted antiwar freak list. I will make sure you are never gainfully employed anywhere at anytime. The business
class world is compiling the photo shots of people at the anti-war rallies and are circulationg them to employers for the next cycle of attrition. Pray you disguised
your self enough. And companies who actively promote these pro communist anti-american positions will have to shut their doors down due to lack of business.
You have your VOICE, and I will give you that, but we have ours. Welcome to the real world

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Edwin Johnson's a fucking moron
by Randy Jackson Sunday March 02, 2003 at 05:40 PM

Move to Baghdad you stupid fucking liberal. I know for a fact you didn't touch the sound system jackass. But if it makes you feel better to say so, then by all
means, who am I to stop your lies, you are afterall a leftist commie prick. Lies come naturally.

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Mr.
by TBone Monday March 03, 2003 at 08:40 AM

Reasons why this rally bothers him, and others like him.

1) It was a rally in support of America. Not a rally to support Saddam the murderer.

2) We allowed ALL views to be expressed at the rally. Nobody was denied the right to speak.

3) Former Iraq citizens to pointed out the FACTS about Saddam at the rally.

4) It was a peaceful rally. Not one single inccident reported by police.

5) The rally was 100% honest and accurate. That's what bothers the liberals the most. Facts and honesty are not part of their agenda.

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Great Rally
by Peter Monday March 03, 2003 at 09:06 AM

It was a terrific rally, and I would agree that there were approximately 10,000.

The sound gliches were just gliches. The America-hater lying about his sabotage is just full of crap. Lying is part of their lack of morality, and it really is
no
different than all the other lies they tell.

I didn't see any counter-protesters, probably due to the lack of drug availiblity.

I noticed how clean the participants left the facility and how respectful and well behaved everyone was, but you must take into account the kind of
people who
attended.

I'm just amazed that the America-haters haven't made any Nazi references. They tend to resort to name calling (moron, idiot, etc), scare tactics
(destroying the
environment, starving children, etc) and of course negative association (Enron, Nazi's, evil, etc), because their agruements are not factual and/or sound.
This is
one reason their are almost no leftist talk show hosts. They would have no means to back their positons when challenged, and who would listen to name
calling for 3 hours a day.

I wish these people would grow up and live in the real world instead of we-can-defeat-anything-with-love (and weed) fantasy world.

Great job Pat and Chris.
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John_P_LSU
by John Plauche Monday March 03, 2003 at 10:15 AM
JNPlauche (at) inorbit.com

"There are risks and costs to a program of action. But they are far less than the long range risks and costs of comfortable inaction" - John F. Kennedy
Saddam Hussein is a vicious, evil, murdering, torturing, raping dictator who must be stopped. He has killed over 1- million people, and IS KNOWN
to have
chemical and biological weapons. He must be disarmed. Peace rallys will not make the region safe, force will. WAR NEVER SOLVED ANYTHING!!
Oh wait, it
ended: Slavery, Fascism, Tyranny, Communism, Oppression, Subjugation, The Holecaust, etc. THANK YOU to those nations doing the RIGHT
THING: United
Kingdom, Spain, Bulgaria, Denmark, Italy, Portugal, Mexico, Pakistan, Czech Republic, Cyprus, Hungary, Slovenia, Slovakia, Romania, Poland,
Lithuania, Latvia,
Malta, Estonia, & United States of America

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Good to see so many are with us!
by Carpetbaggers For Carpetboming Monday March 03, 2003 at 11:19 AM

We're pleased with the results of Saturday's Contract on America. Everyone of you is a patriot. Even the women. I may be in the minority here, see, we
have
minorities among us too, just not the usual kind, but I for one think that a woman can be a patriot if they put aside the liberal stuff like voting and
speaking before
their man and you know.

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this is not inclusive of all the comments........

To all stay L&Led...

till next situation report...

The Patriot Spirit Lives - Houston, TX
WE SUPPORT OUR COUNTRY
WE SUPPORT OUR TROOPS
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The LEFT?

WHY ARN'T THEY MARCHING TO DISARM IRAQ, IRAN, N. KOREA?
WHY ARN'T THEY MARCHING TO END GENOCIDE IN COUNTRIES HEADED BY
DICTATORS LIKE IRAQ?
WHY ARN'T THEY MARCHING WITH "WE SUPPORT OUR TROOPS" SIGNS ASA
SOME CLAIM THEY DO?

Because the Communist Groups that setup these front groups that go by many KEWL names
can't allow that. They need these folks DUPED so they can use them to foster their hidden
agend... To take over the USA and set it up as a communist dictatorship.
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Edwin Johnston (english)
07 Mar 2003
I'm anti-war, but I'll throw you a bone. Edwin Johnston is famous in Houston. Do a search on Houston IndyMedia. Look for the word "snitch." Edwin, refered to in your post, has very curious reputation and a long history of calling law enforcement against others. He's even tried to get people's children taken away from them just because he doesn't like their politics.
Is that a BONE or a Rattle? (english)
08 Mar 2003
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1st: Most I know are not for WARS, you'd have to be one sick puppy to want war... so in fine many of the "labels"
attached to a different view on this sitrep are misnomers.

This is a unique set of facts where war was declared on america by Radical Muslims ( this is NOT a condemnation of
all muslims in the USA or abroad ) and we as a nation have
choices... to wait and see if we are NUKED by suit case bombs, or if suicide bombers are going to strike our schools and hospitals, etc.. as they claim.. or bio warfare ensues.. among other things... aimed at our total destruction..

The facts are they already made the trip on 9/11 taking out
non-military civilians, women and children. ( and it's
very interesting those who march against the US have never
once marched against the terrorist acts of that date nor their sponsoring nation(s).. nor for any other country in the world to "disarm" among other things.. Why do you think this is?)

Wherefore, The President and we as a united people have
a choice.. to do preventive "maintenance" or wait and
see if a new major attack will occur.

Sadahm who could be using the resources of his nation ( Oil)
to enhance every one in Iraq's life has made his choice..
to hoard as much as he can, maintain a power thats hell bent on seeing the US and other nation(s) destroyed,and killing his own people, specially if you speak OUT like you can in our country.

I hear the holler that the war is for controll of the oil.. in essence it is, it needs to be taken out of the mad mans hands and given back to the people of Iraq.. wherefore no one should be without in that country. If left in SH's control he will build weapons of MD and you or your children will probably be a target.. Do these folks who
march on his behalf feel they would be spared death by him or al q., or any other anti-american muslim group? Harhar
if you do.. that is most definately lala land.

Then........there is another end result.....
Allowing individual rights to prosper among the Iraqcitizens
as those who have left for the USA and live here
enjoy is another end result of removing this person from power.

I personally stand behind our President for many reasons
within the issue. He has the most sofisticated resources in the world available to help him guage his decisions. We elected him to perform the tasks he performs.

A long time ago a president wrote some words that hacve helped me as an individual keep things in my life in perspective.. specially when the critic's abound..

IT IS NOT THE CRITIC WHO COUNTS

"It is not the critic who counts;
not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles,
or where the doer of deeds could have done them better.
The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena,
whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood;
who strives valiantly;
who errs, and comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming;
but who does actually strive to do the deeds;
who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions;
who spends himself in a worthy cause;
who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement,
and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly,
so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid
souls who know neither victory nor defeat."

-- Theodore Roosevelt
Citizenship in a Republic;
Speech Delivered at Sorbonne, Paris
April 23, 1910

God Bless America
God Bless Our Troops