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Indymedia is WORSE than mainstream media!!! (english)
11 Mar 2003
Modified: 12 Mar 2003
Something needs to change fast!
Look at what Indymedia has become. A forum dominated by rightwing reactionaries.

Some of us worked very hard in establishing IMC's all around the world, because we had a vision of independent media that would serve the international progressive community. Since then, liberal "free speech" advocates have run Indymedia into the ground by arguing against editorial standards and allowing rightwingers to use the service to promote their reactionary trash.

Something needs to change, and fast. It may be in order to abandon the Indymedia project, learn from the mistakes and start fresh. Everyday this project is becoming more and more unsalvagable.
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unsalvageable? NOT (english)
11 Mar 2003
While there is a problem to be sure, I'd say faith in our collective imagination on how to improve the system is best. It's *not* unsalvageable. Period, end of report.
I agree with the commentor prior to this (english)
11 Mar 2003

I agree with the commentor prior to this...
either you want to reach the "masses" or preach to the
choir (sp?)

If the opposing views are invalid, what do you fear?

If this forum is just a place to "organiz" yourselfs.. then password protect it and preach - teach to each other.

I may not agree with what I read heere but respect the collectives wisdom to allow it to be a truely open forum.
They may, as a whole, be less insecure about what you
may perceive as a threat.


Just a MicMac
I had to repost... (english)
12 Mar 2003

There was something that stood out - but was not evident
when I replied initially...

You said: "Since then, liberal "free speech" advocates"

I would like to know what you meant by that?

If you were in power - would you douse free speech?

Not allow the common person thier say?

Do you realize how damaging your comment was?

You need to drop down and give the collective a
100 push ups.

You should not divulge future policy of a proletariot
dictatorship in public.

Though I will say, wou will have to pry my gun from my
cold dead hands before I see free speach taken from my
people. You alrady stole our land. Put on reservations,
and prospered at mother earths expense... thats
how you got what you have - dontchaknow?

Just a MicMac
This is just the FREEPER factor. (english)
12 Mar 2003
Don't worry about. I encourage IndyMedia to delete them with gusto. In the end, this pathetic regime will fall and, if IndyMedia does a good job at archiving the Freeper posts, we'll know whose heads to shave and who to parade as "collaborators of the Fourth Reich" through the streets.
Hey, a Wannabe Author (english)
12 Mar 2003
come_shave_our_heads.jpg
Hey a wannabe author of the left posts to MicMac
he is going to shave an indians head..

Stephen De Voy
8760a Research Blvd. #513
Austin, TX 78748
US
Phone: 5126533260
Email: sdevoy (at) austin.rr.com

Some grunts know all about you...& a KOBE says howdy pard.

We be making a list, chcking it twice
we know the ones who are naughty alright
the real revolution is coming to town.

Just ain't gonna go Osamma's way..
BIG HEADS UP (english)
12 Mar 2003
Here is your macho man.. all groups no matter what
political view held should be aware:

Brothers watch this flake
------------------------------------------------------

Dear FBI,
I am writing this open letter to you because you have ignored reports filed to your office online and a report filed during a visit to your Austin, Texas office in September of 2002. A pattern of criminal behavior, including death threats, hate crimes, illegal access to computer systems, and fraud has been undertaken by a group of individuals that have now formed an organization. This organization, the KOBE Organization, meets the legal definition of an entity that could be prosecuted under the RICO act. I have come to the conclusion that your failure to investigate the KOBE Organization demonstrates and implicit sanction of their criminal organization by your bureau.

Let me describe the KOBE Organization to you. The KOBE Organization maintains a website at http://www.kobehq.com. Since, according to my weblogs, you visit my websites frequently, and all of my websites have included information about the crimes of the KOBE Organization, I must conclude that you have already visited their website too. The KOBE Organization exists to harass Americans of Islamic faith. The KOBE Organization also exists to harass opponents of the policies of the Bush Administration. The KOBE Organization, in pursuit of its goals, emails electronic viruses to individuals that it opposes. KOBE posts specific death threats on Internet forums and emails death threats to individuals. The KOBE organization has called for the death of all Muslims, called for the assassination of members of the US Congress, and has called for my assassination as well.

The KOBE Organization obtained their Internet domain through fraud, obtained the services of an ISP through fraud, and has called for their members to engage in check forgery and crimes via the US Postal service. KOBE has launched denial of service attacks against Internet forums, proclaimed publicly that it has hacked the systems corresponding to this website, and has claimed publicly that it obtained private Internet information through corrupt processes.

The KOBE Organization has, on many occasions, claimed to have the support of the United States Government. One member of the KOBE Organization claims to be an Israeli intelligence asset. Another member of the KOBE Organization claims to be a member of the United States Air Force. Finally, one KOBE member has issued death threats from the IP address of a law firm.

Given that we have contacted you directly we can only assume that you are aware of these activities. Given the brazen and public illegal conduct of the KOBE Organization, it seems that they are certain that you will not act against them. In fact, they have stated this multiple times.

It is reasonable to conclude, therefore, that given the political nature of KOBE's targets, the KOBE Organization is either a COINTELPRO operation sponsored by you, or the KOBE Organization is an independent organization under your protection.

The KOBE Organization claims to be represented by the law firm: Christensen, Miller, Fink, Jacobs, Glaser, Weil & Shapiro. The KOBE Organization claims that their lawyer has indicated that their activities are legal. The activities of KOBE are clearly illegal. I suspect that any law firm supporting their activities courts disbarment.

Given your lack of action on this matter, I intend to seek counsel in order to expose the KOBE Organization and get to the root of the reason why you have failed to take action.

Sincerely,

Stephen DeVoy