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Kucinich Not as Perfect/Liberal as You Might Think...
27 Jan 2004
I was surprised to see Kucinich's voting record against ACLU... I saw one score card that only rated him 40%... I was really surprised his voting record to restrict Freedom of younger people... He voted with people like Joe Scarborough, Tom Delay and even Charles Pickering... Read the following with open mind and decide for yourself...
HR 3 -- Juvenile Justice

Criminal Justice
05/08/1997
House Roll Call No. 118
105th Congress, 1st Session
Passed: 286-132
https://ssl.capwiz.com/aclu/issues/votes/?votenum=118&chamber=H&congress
Introduced by Rep. Bill McCollum, R-FL, the bill offers a host of so-called "tough on crime"
provisions regarding underage offenders, such as trying children as young as 13 in adult
courts and then jailing them with adult criminal offenders in adult prisons. The ACLU
opposed the bill, which was approved by a vote of 286 to 132.
(1st Session of the 105th Congress, House Vote 118)
Kucinich voted for this along with Thomas Delay and Joe Scarborough...

HJ Res 54 -- Flag Desecration Amendment

Free Speech
06/12/1997
House Roll Call No. 202
105th Congress, 1st Session
Passed: 310-114
https://ssl.capwiz.com/aclu/issues/votes/?votenum=202&chamber=H&congress
Introduced by Representative Gerald Solomon, R-NY, this proposed constitutional
amendment would overturn the United States Supreme Court's ruling that flag burning
is political speech protected by the First Amendment. Specifically, the amendment would
give Congress the power to forbid "desecration" of the United States flag. The ACLU opposed
the amendment, which was adopted by a vote of 310 to 114.
(1st Session of the 105th Congress, House Vote 202)
Kucinich voted for this along with Thomas Delay and Joe Scarborough...

H.R. 3718 -- Limits on Federal Judiciary

Criminal Justice
05/19/1998
House Roll Call No. 163
105th Congress, 2nd Session
Passed: 352-53
https://ssl.capwiz.com/aclu/issues/votes/?votenum=163&chamber=H&congress
Sponsored by Rep. Tom DeLay, R-TX, this bill would continue the trend toward restraining
the role of the federal judicary by limiting the ability of federal judges to correct
unconstitutional conditions in prisons. The ACLU opposed the bill, which was approved by a
vote of 352 to 53.
(2nd Session of the 105th Congress, House Vote 163)
Kucinich voted for this along with Thomas Delay & Joe Scarborough...

HR 3682 -- Limits on Abortions for Minors

Religious Liberties
07/15/1998
House Roll Call No. 280
105th Congress, 2nd Session
Passed: 276-150
https://ssl.capwiz.com/aclu/issues/votes/?votenum=280&chamber=H&congress
Introduced by Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-FL, this legislation would make criminals out of
family members -- except parents -- who help a teenager travel to another state for an
abortion. The bill, known as the "Child Protection Custody Act," would make it a federal
crime for a person -- including a trusted friend, grandparent or minister -- who helps a
young woman travel across state lines to obtain an abortion unless she has already
fulfilled the requirements of her home state's parental consent or notification laws. The
ACLU opposed the bill, which was adopted by a vote of 276-150.
(2nd Session of 105th Congress, House Vote 280)
Kucinich voted for this as did Thomas Delay & Joe Scarborough...

H.R. 4104 (amendment) -- Contraceptive Equity for Women

Reproductive Rights
07/16/1998
House Roll Call No. 290
105th Congress, 2nd Session
Agreed to: 224-198
https://ssl.capwiz.com/aclu/issues/votes/?votenum=290&chamber=H&congress
Rep. Nita Lowey, D-NY, offered an amendment to a spending bill that would require that
federal health plans include coverage for contraceptives. The amendment represents a
major step toward eliminating the startling gender inequity in the coverage of
prescription drugs. The ACLU supported the amendment, which was adopted by a vote of
224 to 198.
(2nd Session of 105th Congress, House Vote 290)
Kucinich voted AGAINST this as did Joe Scarborough, Tom Delay, & Charles Pickering...

HR 1122 -- Ban on Abortion Procedures

Reproductive Rights
07/23/1998
House Roll Call No. 321
105th Congress, 2nd Session
Passed: 295-131
https://ssl.capwiz.com/aclu/issues/votes/?votenum=321&chamber=H&congress
Introduced by Rep. Gerald Solomon, R-NY, this proposed legislation would ban the safest
and most common methods of abortion used throughout pregnancy. Specifically, the
legislation would outlaw what anti-choice legislators call "partial-birth abortions,"
a meaningless term that federal and state courts have found to be so vague as to be
unconstitutional. By a vote of 295 to 131, the House voted to override President
Clinton's veto of this legislation. The ACLU opposed the bill and opposed the override
effort.
(2nd Session of 105th Congress, House Vote 321)
Kucinich Voted For This as did Joe Scarborough, Tom Delay, & Charles Pickering...

H.R. 2183 (amendment) -- Campaign Finance

Free Speech
08/03/1998
House Roll Call No. 379
105th Congress, 2nd Session
Agreed to: 237-186
https://ssl.capwiz.com/aclu/issues/votes/?votenum=379&chamber=H&congress
By a vote of 237 to 186, the House adopted a campaign finance measure introduced by
Reps. Chris Shays, R-CT, and Marty Meehan, D-MA. The ACLU opposed the measure
--adopted as an amendment to another campaign spending bill -- because it would
establish limits that effectively bar any individual or group from explicitly
criticizing a public official standing for re-election within 60 days of the election.
(2nd Session of 105th Congress, House Vote 379)
Kucinich Voted For This, while even Joe Scarborough/Delay/Pickering voted against it...

HJ Res 33 -- Flag Desecration Amendment

Free Speech
06/24/1999
House Roll Call No. 252
106th Congress, 1st Session
Passed: 305-124
https://ssl.capwiz.com/aclu/issues/votes/?votenum=252&chamber=H&congress
Introduced by Rep. Randy Cunningham, R-CA, the amendment would overturn U.S.
Supreme Court rulings that found flag burning to be political speech protected
by the First Amendment. Specifically, the amendment would give Congress the
power to forbid "desecration" of the United States flag. The ACLU opposed the
amendment, which was adopted by a vote of 305 to 124. (To be added to the
Constitution, proposed amendments need two-thirds votes in both the House
(290 votes) and the Senate (67 votes) and ratification by 3/4 states.)
(1st Session of the 106th Congress, House Vote 252)
Kucinich Voted for This as did Joe Scarborough, Charles Pickering & Tom Delay...

HR 1218 -- Teen Endangerment Act

Reproductive Rights
06/30/1999
House Roll Call No. 261
106th Congress, 1st Session
Passed: 270-159
https://ssl.capwiz.com/aclu/issues/votes/?votenum=261&chamber=H&congress
Introduced by Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-FL, this legislation would make criminals out of
anyone other than a parent -- including a grandmother, aunt or older sister -- who helps
a teenager travel to another state for an abortion. The bill, officially called the "Child
Custody Protection Act," but nicknamed the Teen Endangerment Act, would make it a federal
crime for a person to help a young woman travel across state lines to obtain an abortion
unless she has already fulfilled the requirements of her home state's parental consent or
notification laws. The ACLU opposed the bill, which was passed by a vote of 270 to 159.
(1st Session of the 106th Congress, House Vote 261)
Kucinich Voted For This as did Joe Scarborough, Charles Pickering, & Tom Delay...

H.R. 10 -- "Know Your Customer" Banking Regulations

Privacy
07/01/1999
House Roll Call No. 269
106th Congress, 1st Session
Failed: 129-299
https://ssl.capwiz.com/aclu/issues/votes/?votenum=269&chamber=H&congress
Introduced by Reps. Bob Barr, R-GA, Ron Paul, R-TX, and Tom Campbell, R-CA, as an
amendment to financial services legislation, the measure would have put banks out of
the business of spying on their customers for the government. It would have
prohibited regulators from requiring banks to adopt programs similar to those that
would have been required under the discredited "Know Your Customer" regulations. The
ACLU supported the amendment, which failed on a vote of 129 to 299.
(1st Session of the 106th Congress, House Vote 269)
Kucinich Voted Against this w/ Tom Delay While even Joe Scarborough & Charles Pickering voted Yes...

H.R. 417 -- Campaign Finance

Free Speech
09/14/1999
House Roll Call No. 422
106th Congress, 1st Session
Passed: 252-177
https://ssl.capwiz.com/aclu/issues/votes/?votenum=422&chamber=H&congress
By a vote of 252 to 177, the House adopted a campaign finance measure introduced by
Reps. Chris Shays, R-CT, and Marty Meehan, D-MA. The ACLU opposed the measure
because it would establish limits that effectively bar any individual or group from
explicitly criticizing a public official standing for re-election within 60 days of
the election.
(1st Session of the 106th Congress, House Vote 422)
Kucinich Voted For it...Even Joe Scarborough, Charles Pickering & Tom Delay voted Against...

HR 2436 -- Fetal Rights

Reproductive Rights
09/30/1999
House Roll Call No. 465
106th Congress, 1st Session
Passed: 254-172
https://ssl.capwiz.com/aclu/issues/votes/?votenum=465&chamber=H&congress
Introduced by three staunchly anti-choice representatives -- Lindsey Graham, R-SC, Chris
Smith, R-NJ, and Charles Canady, R-FL -- this legislation would be the first federal law
to give independent legal status not only to a fetus, but also to fertilized eggs and
pre-implanted embryos. The ACLU believes the legislation would erode the constitutional
right to choose abortion by creating a new criminal offense to punish anyone who injures
or causes the death of what its sponsors call "a member of the species homo sapiens at
all stages of development," during the commission of certain federal crimes.The ACLU
opposed the bill, which was passed by a vote of 254 to 172.
(1st Congress of the 106th Congress, House Vote 465)
Kucinich Voted For This...As Did Charles Pickering & Tom Delay...

H.R. 1646, Amendment 34 -- Global Gag Rule

Reproductive Rights
05/16/2001
House Roll Call No. 115
107th Congress, 1st Session
Agreed to: 218-210
https://ssl.capwiz.com/aclu/issues/votes/?votenum=115&chamber=H&congress
The ACLU opposed an amendment (sponsored by Rep. Henry Hyde (R-IL)) in support of
the "global gag rule." The global gag rule is a dangerous and anti-democratic
measure that denies crucial U.S. financial aid to foreign organizations that use
their own money to perform or to even discuss abortion in their countries. The
amendment passed by a vote of 218-210. (1st Session of 107th Congress, House
Vote 115).
Kucinich Voted For This...AS did Joe Scarborough, Charles Pickering, & Tom Delay...

H. J. Res 36 - Flag Desecration Amendment

Free Speech
07/17/2001
House Roll Call No. 232
107th Congress, 1st Session
Passed: 298-125
https://ssl.capwiz.com/aclu/issues/votes/?votenum=232&chamber=H&congress
The House of Representatives voted by a slim 8-vote margin to once again approve a
proposal to amend the U.S. Constitution to ban desecration of the American flag.
Although the amendment passed, it did so with less than 300 votes. Introduced by
Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham, R-CA, the constitutional amendment would be the
first to restrict the freedoms guaranteed Americans by the Bill of Rights. The
ACLU opposed the amendment, which was approved by a vote of 298 to 125. (To be
added to the Constitution, an amendment must receive a two-thirds votes in both
the House (290 votes) and the Senate (67 votes) and be ratified by three-quarters
of the states.)
(1st Session of 107th Congress, House Vote 232)
Kucinich Voted For This...AS did Joe Scarborough, Charles Pickering, & Tom Delay...

H.R. 2356 -- Campaign Finance Reform

Free Speech
02/13/2002
House Roll Call No. 34
107th Congress, 2nd Session
Passed: 240-189
https://ssl.capwiz.com/aclu/issues/votes/?votenum=34&chamber=H&congress=
By a vote of 240 to 189, the House adopted a campaign finance measure introduced by
Rep. Chris Shays (R-CT). The ACLU opposed the measure because it would establish
limits that effectively bar any individual or group from explicitly criticizing a
public official standing for re-election within 60 days of the election.
(2nd Session of 107th Congress, House Vote 34)
Kucinich Voted For This...Tom Delay & Charles Pickering Voted Against This Bill...

HR 476 -- Teen Endangerment Act

Reproductive Rights
04/17/2002
House Roll Call No. 97
107th Congress, 2nd Session
Passed: 260-161
https://ssl.capwiz.com/aclu/issues/votes/?votenum=97&chamber=H&congress=
Introduced by Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-FL, this legislation would make criminals out of
anyone other than a parent -- including a grandmother, aunt or older sister -- who helps a
teenager travel to another state for an abortion. The bill, officially called the "Child
Custody Protection Act," but nicknamed the Teen Endangerment Act, would make it a federal
crime for a person to help a young woman travel across state lines to obtain an abortion
unless she has already fulfilled the requirements of her home state's parental consent or
notification laws. The ACLU opposed the bill, which was passed by a vote of 260 - 161.
(2nd Session of 107th Congress, House Vote 97)
Kucinich Voted For This...As did Tom Delay & Charles Pickering...

Desecration of Flag resolution

On Passage
06/03/2003
House Roll Call No. 234
108th Congress, 1st Session
Passed: 300-125
https://ssl.capwiz.com/aclu/issues/votes/?votenum=234&chamber=H&congress
The House passed H.J. Res. 4, proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United
States authorizing the Congress to prohibit the physical desecration of the flag of
the United States, by 2/3 yea-and-nay vote of 300 yeas to 125 nays, Roll No. 234.
(1st Session of the 108th Congress, House Vote 234)
Kucinich Voted For This with his "Friends" Tom Delay & Charles Pickering...

School Vouchers
On Agreeing to the Amendment
09/09/2003
House Roll Call No. 490
108th Congress, 1st Session
Agreed to: 209-208

On September 9, 2003, the House accepted by a vote of 209-208 an amendment to the
D.C. Appropriations bill that would authorize the first federal school voucher
program. The ACLU opposed this amendment because it would finance discrimination
in education, undermine local control of education and force all taxpayers to
support religious beliefs and practices with which they may strongly disagree.
(1st Session of the 108th Congress, House Vote 490)
Kucinich Didn't Even Bother To Vote...While Tom Delay & Charles Pickering voted For it...

Kucinich Voted NO on reducing Marriage Tax by $399B over 10 years.
Vote to pass a bill that would reduce taxes for married people by $399.2 billion over 10
years by doubling the couples' deduction and the child tax credit. Among other
provisions, the bill would allow married couples filing jointly to claim a standard
deduction equal to the deduction they would receive filing singly.
Reference: Bill sponsored by Weller, R-IL; Bill HR 6 ; vote number 2001-75 on Mar 29, 2001


Kucinich also Voted for No Child Left Behind... Or as most call it..."Every Child Left Behind".

You might remember the case of the 12 year old kid killing the 6 year old PLaymate...
Doing wrestling moves and getting Life without parole after trial... After 3 years
served they are letting him play a Plea Bargain cuz of all the Press coverage... From
details of case I know, they didn't even test the kids mental ability fully... I heard
he had an IQ of around 90, which might be good enough to be president... Yet I am not
sure at 12 years old 80/90ish IQ gives much understanding... If anyone is at fault I
would say perhaps its parents to leave them alone for long enough for something like
that to happen...

Just keep in mind Kucinich isn't perfect or as Liberal as you might think.. I got into fight with
good friend of mine who supports him... He claims to be in 1% of the informed voter and listens
to Democracy Now, EXpert Witness Show and many others... Also reads many books and collects all
the newspaper articles he can... Sort of like something out of 1984, he claimed to know
Kucinich's voting record... Even offering money and other items in a bet against my claim that
he had voted for it... Also other voting results I told him he did not believe, claimed the
"Corporate Media" had said it... Take a look at the information and links here, look how often
Kucinich voted with Joe Scarborough, Tom Delay and even Charles Pickering...

Now some of the things ACLU was against perhaps some of you might not agree with...
Just read the information and decide for yourself about Kucinich... Personally I wouldn't vote
for any of those in congress running from Dems... Most of all Kerry, after that Edwards,
Kucinich, & the worst of the lot LIEberman... Clark's lobby record and poor debate hurt him,
also the Bush being a deserter thing... Also only 3 sitting Senators have ever won President
and none of these guys is even close to the Next Kennedy... Sharpton has too many skeletons in
his closet to ever be a real chance to Win... I think he has shot to take a State or Two though
at worse and thats more than "Corporate Media" would want you to believe... The "Special
Interests" want you to go with Kerry or Edwards... LIEberman is more honest when he talks than
Kerry and that is pretty scary. Also keep in mind Kerry voted for almost every fast track Free
trade plan I can think of...

I hope at one of the debates Kucinich forgets about his "friends" LIEberman, Kerry, & Edwards
and lashes out at them. Just don't forget Kucinich is a politician and his deal in Iowa shows
that to be even more True. Kucinich has flaws, he has voted with Joe Scarborough, Tom Delay,
& even Charles Pickering... All of them last I saw rated 0% in ACLU scoring, not the company
you want to be with... What is scary is on a few issues they agreed with ACLU while Kucinich
didn't :)...



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Re: Kucinich Not as Perfect/Liberal as You Might Think...
28 Jan 2004
kucinich has endorsed edwards, one of the candidates not even pretending to be antiwar.

kucinich was just a fishing lure to try and get people from street organizing and into campaigning for the democrats.