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A Police Provocateur's Dream, HR 1955 & S.1959 |
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by Ross Stone
(No verified email address) |
05 Dec 2007
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"The Violent Radicalization and
Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act" |
Rep. Jane Harman's "Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act" is not written exactly like the Nazi 1933 Discriminatory Decrees that suspended the Reich Constitution, but it can bring America to the same place by trashing America’s civil liberties. Harman’s bill has the potential of driving lawful political and other activists underground into American cell groups. Perhaps expectantly creating the domestic terrorists the Bush Administration has said we need to be protected from.
The Nazis were dead serious when they outlawed specific types of dancing, singing, artwork; any act of expression the Government said "might" cause public unrest in the German State. German Citizens got arrested for dancing the Jitterbug. On February 28, 1933 Hitler signed the Discriminatory Decrees banning free association and speech that might cause public disturbance or adversely affect the peace and security of the German State—according to police. Rep. Jane Harman's "Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act" when closely examined, defines "homegrown terrorism" as "any planned act" that might use force to coerce the U.S. Government or its people to promote or accomplish a "political or social objective." No actual force need occur. Government need only charge that an individual or group thought about doing it.
The Harman bill may extend to "planned acts" in America against foreign governments that are "U.S. alleys." See "planned acts" covered under Patriot Act. Under the Harman bill, environmental organizations in America are at risk when they coordinate activities with or support foreign activist groups in some countries. American environmental organizations can’t control what might happen overseas at a "planned" environmental demonstration or control the "planned acts" of foreign activists they network with.
Under the broad language of the Harman bill, anyone attending a "planned anti war rally" could be charged with trying to coerce a government and its people. Government need only charge that an individual in a group "thought about coercing a government or its people." Labor demonstrators that block or intimidate shoppers from entering a store could be charged with "coercing people" under Harman's "Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act." The Nazi’s used similar provisions found in the Harman bill to charge labor leaders as communists.
Under the Harman bill, should violence breakout at a "planned" demonstration, the government can charge that everyone attending was "ideologically based toward violence." The individual activists who set up web sites promoting their "planned activities", wrote, emailed or handed out "flyers" promoting "that planned" demonstration could also be charged with Violent Radicalization or Homegrown Terrorism, depending on the violence that occurred at the demonstration. It is foreseeable that "information flyers" not intended by the author to be distributed at a particular event but were somehow distributed, could under the Harman bill open the door for government to charge the author with promoting "Violent Radicalization and/or Homegrown Terrorism, if that subsequently results. Such concerns by writers will crush free speech and written dissent.
The broad language of the Harman bill gives the government the power to bully and charge Americans with terrorism when Citizens exercise their Constitutional Right to Association. Lawful Americans that attend public meetings, demonstrations and other group public events should not be charged with Violent Radicalization, Homegrown Terrorism, or labeled "ideologically based toward violence" because of what another person said or did at a "planned" meeting. Of course, under such circumstances millions of Americans would become afraid to support or attend political and other public meetings out of concern someone might do something that violates Rep. Harman's "Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act." Attendance by an American at a "political or environmentalist' meeting" could put a U.S. Citizen on the government's "no fly list."
Should the current provisions in the Jane Harman bill HR 1955 or S. 1959 pass in its present form, the U.S. Government, federal and state police will have no difficulty legally terminating American Citizens and activist organizations that exercise their Constitutional Right to free association, free speech, expression, assembly and writings. Once the Harman bill passes, Police Provocateurs can easily destroy any anti-war group, person or organization that supports or attends a "planned" meeting or demonstration. Police Provocateurs need only join a crowd of protestors at a demonstration, then throw rocks toward uniformed police to criminalize an entire demonstration. Or covertly contact a group’s participants before, at or after a "planned" demonstration, then lie and claim the person(s) the Provocateur spoke with were ideologically bent toward violence; "Violent Radicalization; or Homegrown Terrorism.
Uneducated police provocateurs and informants, which there are many, are more apt to misinterpret intellectual discussion at a political meeting as being ideologically bent toward violence, "Violent Radicalization or Homegrown Terrorism. |
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A Police Provocateur's Dream, HR.1955 & S.1959 |
by Steve Goldberg
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05 Dec 2007
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HR 1955 & S.1959 if passed, will give a “new government commission” the power to determine which Americans and Organizations are "ideologically based toward violence" and or promote or support "Violent Radicalization or Homegrown Terrorism.”
No U.S. Government commission should be allowed to “label” an entire organization, group or person as being based toward violence or homegrown terrorism because of what another person at a group meeting or demonstration said or did, without convincing evidence the organization itself supports violence to achieve a purpose.
It is foreseeable millions of Americans under such circumstances would be afraid to donate money to or attend numerous organization events out of concern someone might say or do something that falls under to Rep. Harman's "Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act." Joining an organization that is subsequently deemed by the “new government commission” as "ideologically based toward violence" could get you on a government list prohibiting getting a federal job or government contract. |
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From the river to...D.C. |
by We're all Palestinians now!
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11 Dec 2007
Modified: 03:54:43 PM |
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"Uneducated police provocateurs and informants, which there are many, are more apt to misinterpret intellectual discussion at a political meeting as being ideologically bent toward violence"? "Uneducated" provocateurs are not more apt to "misinterpret", they're more apt to deliberately lie because that's what they're "educated" by their superiors to do! A draconian bill like this is not about "interpretation" it's about silencing all serious, anti-establishment opposition to America's neo-nazi government. It's the most alarming piece of legislation since Patriot 2, which is temporarily on hold at the moment. But this is the future for us all and may well signal an even more virulent foreign policy by seeking to preempt any activist dissent before it even arises through a climate of domestic fear, intimidation and no doubt, a few notorious 'show trials'. And this fascist initiative, note, is brought to you by a Democrat! And a woman! Wonderful! An 'inclusive', non-sexist, multi-cultural fascism! But the most intriguing angle is the ongoing investigation of Harman and her close ties to AIPAC, the infamous zionazi lobby. Seems sweet Jane may have enlisted her favorite lobby's help in getting that other female closet fascist Nancy Pelosi to reappoint her (Harman) to the House Intelligence Comm. and subsequently to chairwoman. It all fits doesn't it: Pelosi, Harman, Democrats, AIPAC, fascism... call it the Israelization of Amerika! |
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We are all Palestinians? |
by What if we don't want to be?
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12 Dec 2007
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We are all Palestinians?
What if we don't want to be?
I'd like to live in an open, pluralistic culture that welcomes all , no matter what religion. I'd like to live in a culture where a women determines her life's course- not her father or her husband.
I'd like to give in a culture thats is accepting of differences and that values peace not pride, justice not honor.
Me a Palestinian? No thank you. |
