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Commentary :: Environment
Vote for Nader, go to jail
18 May 2004
Activists sent to detention camps in say 2007, won't be able to vote for ANYONE!
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Word that the Reform Party has recently endorsed Ralph Nader's ill-advised bid for the presidency has this observer wondering just what sort of "reform" this particular party has in mind. If it's the same effort to overcome the duopoly many of us supported last time around that's all well and good, but will that laudable goal be any closer to being realized in a second Bush regime? We don't think so!

A further entrenchment of the dangerous neo-con cabal in the White house will not in any way be about further democratization of the U.S. electoral system; in fact, quite the opposite. Voters in the U.S. will be fortunate to move into 2008 with their mandate still in tact. But the right to vote may be the least of it. How about the right of the people to be secure against unwarranted search and seizure? How about the right of the people to peaceably assemble? I could go on, but I think you get the picture. If the past few years are any indication, a second Bush regime could well spell disaster for all our constitutional rights. The 15th Amendment is only one of many. Are you willing to risk all the others?

As a former Nader supporter, one who made all the arguments that are presently being made for Nader's 2004 run, i'm perfectly comfortable in stating that THIS TIME none of those arguments hold water. Supporting Ralph in 2004 is not altogether unlike the political machinations between the Socialists and Communists just prior to the rise of Nazi Germany. It's a recipe for disaster. Anyone who buys into the Nader candidacy is, in effect, one of the ingredients that will make that disaster more likely.

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Re: Vote for Nader, go to jail
18 May 2004
Ignore the Kerry propaganda, made by people who won't even leave a name. They're both the same corporate parties, and when you strip away the rhetoric, and look at their sponsors, and their voting records, they both serve big buisness, and not the American people.
Re: Vote for Nader, go to jail
19 May 2004
In a swing state I agree that voting for Nader isn't great. In Massachusetts though, hell yeah. Kerry just ain't gonna lose here so vote your conscience. That said, its time people wake up to the fact that third parties are not viable in the US for a good reason. It's the constitution. The way we vote for our president and legislature is designed for winner take all by plurality. This combined with the way the Senate determines the Electoral College weights and messes up the proportion of voters to candidates has created a system where anyone who wants to win must appeal to the largest crowd possible. This strategy means simple slogans, lots of money, a strong obedient political machine, and no substance. Therefore the only parties who can win are those either just to the left or just to the right of center. The only variable is the peoples whim. If they feel lefty or righty that year. How else can you explain the fact that we have had only two viable parties for the entire duration of our history save an election or two early on?
Re: Vote for Kerry, go to hell
19 May 2004
Kerry/McCain 2004
Vote for Bush?...Go to Concentration Camp!
20 May 2004
Any one of us...Who speaks out against this administration? Could end up in a political prison if Dubya wins this fall...
Nader isn't the answer.
I'm NOT rich. Not a corporate whore lover. (Like Bush...)
Time to think rational.
4 years of Kerry...Then Jesse Ventura? Or some other third party canidate.
Believe me...This election smells of corporate dung.
Bush is on another planet. All he cares about is covering up all of his lies.
That should send a message to all peons, like myself.
Register to vote.
Vote this self-centered, oil drone OUT!
Then? Bring the soldiers HOME!