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News :: Human Rights : International
Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
27 May 2004
BOSTON- 5/26/04- A group of people got together to do an action at the Tremont St Armed Forces Career Center (AFCC) in Boston. JP and CW met NF and JM at the location. (11:00 am) JP donned a black hood, a loosing fitting black shawl, sandals and two black cords hanging from his hands. He was standing on top of a plastic milk crate. (11:25 am)

    This was a visual approximation of the infamous torture photos from Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison.

 
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        After standing in front of the Armed Forces Career Center for about 10 minutes someone came out to talk to us about the action. (11:35 am) The man that spoke with us was quite angry. He made several statements such as: (11:40 am)

     "Hey, you need to go away." , "You should go." , and "This is federal property… You are damn right… in front of the building."

    "This is a public building, it is federal property." The protestor responded.

    "I will call the police, don’t worry about it." During this exchange the man grabbed JP by his shoulder in an attempt to remove him. This incident was clearly videotaped. The man seemed to discontinue his actions when he became aware that he was being videotaped. Just as the man went back into the AFCC, SP arrived. (12:00 noon) At one point someone who seemed to be in the employ of the AFCC came out with a Poloroid instant Camera and took a picture of the action from the door. (just after noon)

    Several law enforcement officials (Park Rangers, State Police, and MBTA Police) passed by the event. None of these people took any note of the event as being offensive or terribly disturbing. None of the law enforcement officials talked to or questioned any of the individuals involved in the action.

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    Also during this time an individual inside the AFCC pointed to JM, who was taking photographs and made a fist and clearly mouthed the words "I am going to fuck you up". While doing this he pointed at his fist and pointed at JM.

    A Boston Police cruiser arrived in front of the Military Career Center. Some short time later another cruiser arrived and then a third. For at least twenty minutes, perhaps more, the officers who arrived in the cruisers said nothing. They did not question or ask individuals to move along. They seemed to assume a posture of 'wait and see'. (12:30 pm) That was all dispelled when a ranking Boston police officer (lieutenant?) arrived. He entered the AFCC with at least two, possibly more, Boston Police officers. After a brief time inside (10 mins?) they exited the building and along with other Boston Police officers started to clear the sidewalk of onlookers who had gathered to watch the action and response. They started taping off the area with yellow "police line" tape. When this started CW approached JP (who could not see due to the black hood over his head). CW asked JP if he wanted to leave the area, CW further suggested that it might be a good idea at the time considering the attitude of the police. JP stepped down from the milk crate and removed the shawl and the hood. As he started to walk away, two Boston Police hurried over to prevent JP from leaving and separated him from his fellow activists. (12:40 pm)

     JP was not handcuffed. He was questioned at length. Sometime during this a Black Boston Police van arrived. Someone of the onlookers mentioned that this was the "Bomb Squab". No one from the "Bomb Squad" immediately inspected JP. At one point one of the black clad "Bomb Squad" officers casually looked at the shawl JP had been wearing and then picked up one of the cords and turned it in his hands for 2 or 3 seconds before tossing it to the ground.

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    Soon afterwards, JP was handcuffed and arrested. He was placed into an Area A-1 Boston Police Cruiser. Boston Police repeatedly refused to respond to NF and JP when they asked what JP was being arrested for. And one must mention that it seemed at the time the Boston Police didn’t know why they were arresting JP themselves. The police cruiser drove off with JP in it, presumably to Area A-1 holding. (12:55 pm) Boston Police approached the remaining activists, SP, CW, NF and JM. All of these people were made to give ID to the police. (1:00 pm) CW remarked,

    "I am aware that I do not have to give you my ID, but I am going to anyway. I am sure you are aware of this as well."

     To which the officer replied, "I am aware of that." Then one-by-one all of the activists were questioned by a rather large and tattooed Boston Police officer. CW was asked "How tall are you?", "What do you weigh?", "What do you do for a living?", and "Where do you go to school?" The last question CW refused to answer by stating, "I do not have to answer your questions, I want a lawyer present." With this statement the tattooed officer became visibly upset and began to raise his voice.

    When SP was questioned, the police officer asked for her social security number. She asked, "Why do you need that information?" The officer did not answer the question but repeated the question. SP gave him her SS number. He asked her "What is your work?" She replied: "I am a volunteer. I don't get paid for my work." He said: "What do you do?" "I work at a soup kitchen," she replied. He asked: "So how do you make your money?" SP replied: "I don't see how any of this is relevant." He repeated the question. SP answered that she had money saved from college jobs. When the officer finished questioning her, she started walking away and one of the remaining officers also questioned her. "So how do you know these guys? What group are you with?" SP replied: "We are friends." "Yea but how did you meet each other?" SP replied: "I met JP at school." "What about the rest?" "We are just friends," she replied.

     After questioning them, SP, CW, NF and JM were allowed to leave. The 4 activists left the scene and went to the office of the National Lawyers Guild. After several calls CW found out that JP was being held at Area A-1. While on the phone an officer at Area A-1 said that JP was going to be taken to Boston Municipal Court to be arraigned. Several activists went to the court to see the arraignment. With the help of a friendly public defender they found out that JP was not at the courthouse but at Area A-1. (between 1 and 3:30 pm)

     CW, NF, SP and NP then went to Area A-1 to see if JP wanted to be bailed out. Upon arrival CW asked the Desk Officer if JP was in holding and if the desk officer could ask JP if he wanted bail. (4:00 pm) While the desk officer was checking with JP about the bail, a Boston Police officer asked CW

    "Was he [referring to JP] the one over there at the military center?"

     "Yes." CW replied

     "Well you know those Marines and the Navy there shudda' came outta' the office and beat the shit out of him."

     "Umm, wouldn’t that be like assault?" CW asked.

     "I don’t give a shit. Look I just got back from the Air Force Reserves and … look … grrrr … assholes!"

     "I think he (JP) just got back from the Middle East."

    The Officer then said: "Yea, I don’t care ….ggggggrrr… scum!" (around 4 pm)

    The desk officer returned and told the activists that JP didn’t want to be bailed out. It is assumed that JP was making a statement of solidarity with poor and oppressed people.

     JP, full name Joe Privetera, has since been charged with a felony for exercising his freedom of speech.

See: "Arrest, felony charges for protester at Boston military recruiter" at this link: "http://boston.indymedia.org/newswire/display/21879/index.php

For the video of this event go to:
http://boston.indymedia.org/media/all/display/4486

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See also:
http://boston.indymedia.org/newswire/display/21879/index.php

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Re: Photos of army recruiting action and arrest
26 May 2004
R.I.P. Bill of rights
Re: Photos of army recruiting action and arrest
27 May 2004
i'm kind of wondering what happened between #5 and 6
Re: Photos of army recruiting action and arrest
27 May 2004
"Freedom of Speech! A Right of Every American!"

Everybody see that in the window? I wonder if the political science majors that put that up were the same people who called the police.
Just the Facts ...
27 May 2004
A set of people got together to do an action at the Tremont St Armed Forces Career Center (AFCC) in Boston.
JP and CW met NF and JM at the location. (11:00 am)
JP donned a black hood, a loosing fitting black shawl, sandals and two black cords hanging from his hands. He was standing on top of a plastic milk crate. (11:25 am)
This was a visual approximation of the infamous torture photos from Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison.
After standing in front of the Armed Forces Career Center for about 10 minutes someone came out to talk to us about the action. (11:35 am)
The man that spoke with us was quite angry. He made several statements such as: (11:40 am)
"Hey, you need to go away."
"You should go."
"This is federal property… You are damn right… in front of the building."
"This is a public building, it is federal property."
"I will call the police, don’t worry about it."
During this exchange the man grabbed JP by his shoulder in an attempt to remove him. This incident was clearly videotaped. The man seemed to discontinue his actions when he became aware that he was being videotaped.
Just as the man went back into the AFCC, SP arrived. (12:00 noon)
At one point someone who seemed to be in the employ of the AFCC came out with a Poloroid instant Camera and took a picture of the action from the door. (just after noon)
Several law enforcement officials (Park Rangers, State Police, and MBTA Police) passed by the event. None of these people took any note of the event as being offensive or terribly disturbing. None of the law enforcement officials talked to or questioned any of the individuals involved in the action.
Also during this time an individual inside the AFCC pointed to JM, who was taking photographs and made a fist and clearly mouthed the words "I am going to fuck you up". While doing this he pointed at his fist and pointed at JM.
A Boston Police cruiser arrived in front of the Military Career Center. Some short time later another cruiser arrived and then a third. For at least twenty minutes, perhaps more, the officers who arrived in the cruisers said nothing. They did not question or ask individuals to move along. They seemed to assume a posture of 'wait and see'. (12:30 pm)
That was all dispelled when a ranking Boston police officer (lieutenant?) arrived. He entered the AFCC with at least two, possibly more, Boston Police officers. After a brief time inside (10 mins?) they exited the building and along with other Boston Police officers started to clear the sidewalk of onlookers who had gathered to watch the action and response.
They started taping off the area with yellow "police line" tape. When this started CW approached JP (who could not see due to the black hood over his head). CW asked JP if he wanted to leave the area, CW further suggested that it might be a good idea at the time considering the attitude of the police. JP stepped down from the milk crate and removed the shawl and the hood. As he started to walk away, two Boston Police hurried over to prevent JP from leaving and separated him from his fellow activists. (12:40 pm)
JP was not handcuffed. He was questioned at length.
Sometime during this a Black Boston Police van arrived. Someone of the onlookers mentioned that this was the "Bomb Squab". No one from the "Bomb Squad" immediately inspected JP. At one point one of the black clad "Bomb Squad" officers casually looked at the shawl JP had been wearing and then picked up one of the cords and turned it in his hands for 2 or 3 seconds before tossing it to the ground.
Soon later, JP was handcuffed and arrested. He was placed into an Area A-1 Boston Police Cruiser. Boston Police repeatedly refused to respond to NF and JP when they asked what JP was being arrested for. And one must mention that it seemed at the time the Boston Police didn’t know what they were arresting JP for. The police cruiser drove off with JP in it, assumedly to Area A-1 holding. (12:55 pm)
Boston Police approached the remaining activists, SP, CW, NF and JM. All of these people were made to give ID to the police. (1:00 pm)
CW remarked, "I am aware that I do not have to give you my ID, but I am going to anyway. I am sure you are aware of this as well." The officer replied, "I am aware of that."
Then one-by-one all of the activists were questioned by a rather large and tattooed Boston Police officer. CW was asked "How tall are you?", "What do you weigh?", "What do you do for a living?", and "Where do you go to school?" The last question CW refused to answer by stating, "I do not have to answer your questions, I want a lawyer present." With this statement the tattooed officer became visibly upset and began to raise his voice.
When SP was questioned, the police officer asked for her social security number. She asked, "Why do you need that information?" The officer did not answer the question but repeated the information. SP gave him her SS number. He asked her "What is your work?" She replied: "I am a volunteer. I don't get paid for my work." He said: "What do you do?" "I work at a soup kitchen," she replied. He asked: "So how do you make your money?" SP replied: "I don't see how any of this is relevant." He repeated the question. SP answered that she had money saved from college jobs. When the officer finished questioning her, she started walking away and one of the remaining officers also questioned her. "So how do you know these guys? What group are you with?" SP replied: "We are friends." "Yea but how did you meet each other?" SP replied: "I met JP at school." "What about the rest?" "We are just friends," she replied.
After questioning them, SP, CW, NF and JM were allowed to leave. The 4 activists left the scene and went to the office of the National Lawyers Guild. After several calls CW found out that JP was being held at Area A-1. While on the phone an officer at Area A-1 said that JP was going to be taken to Boston Municipal Court to be arraigned. Several activists went to the court to see the arraignment. With the help of a friendly public defender they found out that JP was not at the courthouse but at Area A-1. (between 1 and 3:30 pm)
CW, NF, SP and NP then went to Area A-1 to see if JP wanted to be bailed out. Upon arrival CW asked the Desk Officer if JP was in holding and if the desk officer could ask JP if he wanted bail. (4:00 pm)
While the desk officer was checking with JP about the bail, a Boston Police officer asked CW "Was he [referring to JP] the one over there at the military center?" CW replied "Yes." The officer then said: "Well you know those Marines and the Navy there shudda' came outta' the office and beat the shit out of him." CW said: "Umm, wouldn’t that be like assault?" The officer replied: "I don’t give a shit. Look I just got back from the Air Force Reserves and … look … grrrr … assholes!" CW said: "I think he (JP) just got back from the Middle East. The Officer said: "Yea, I don’t care ….ggggggrrr… scum!" (around 4 pm)
The desk officer returned and told the activists that JP didn’t want to be bailed out. It is assumed that JP was making a statement of solidarity with poor and oppressed people.
Re: Photos of army recruiting action and arrest
27 May 2004
Clap Clap!!!
Awsome action you guys!
Very creative, and well put together.

Tell JP that we in the Northwest are watching what's going on. In solidarity...
Re: Photos of army recruiting action and arrest
27 May 2004
awesome action! the whole incident is fucked up starting when anyone gave you trouble...
one note:
when the cops start questioning you about ANYTHING (even if it's your height), it's best to not answer or say that you would like to a lawyer before answering said questions.

solidarity!
Re: Photos of army recruiting action and arrest
27 May 2004
Great action! Was there any literature being passed out alongside to explain things better to people. Not that this visual needs much explaination, but obviously people could take it out of context (like the angry response below), like you are some privileged kid railing against everyone who joins the army for financial reasons.

Recruitment stations should absolutely be targetted, but it is important to remember the dynamic of who these institutions are trying to recruit: working class youth, primarily black and Latino.

Here is a good essay that anyone is free to reproduce and use in the future (it was written by someone in NEFAC, but feel free to take out the authorship and make it anonymous if you want):

The Poverty Draft: Recruiting the Working Class to The Frontlines
http://makhno.nefac.net/html/drupal/?q=node/view/313
Re: Photos of army recruiting action and arrest
27 May 2004
that is such b.s. They have absolutely no goddamn justification for that arrest. He wasn't disturbing the peace. Maybe he was pissing off Big Brother, but that is no crime
Dissent protects democracy.
the POSSE declares the boston PD to be an Evil Organization.
Re: Photos of army recruiting action and arrest
27 May 2004
Stomp on the Bill of Rights?
So the Army can recruit idiots to brainwash?
For their killing adventure in the middle east?
This government of ours has their head up their asses!
Re: Photos of army recruiting action and arrest
27 May 2004
I will post this story when it is written to my list and try to post something on my website this weekend.

God damn recuriters in this fucking city like to threaten and push peaceful people around.

I may have missed it in the description but any charges being brought up? I'd be happy to help with some solidarity work for the victim.

File report with ACLU yet? I have a right to dissent form on my site under downloads at http://www.bostonmajustice.org

fill that out, mail it in and then call them.

To the Victim: Nice work
Re: Photos of army recruiting action and arrest
27 May 2004
The cops just obviously wanted to make a big deal out of the whole thing to punish people who use their free speech. Yeah the poster in the window is ironic. Great action, solidarity!!!
Re: Direct Action at Local Army Recruiting Center!
27 May 2004
Its funny you talk about freedom of speech but you deleted my post that was stating my opinion about this event. That just goes to show that you guys are nothing but hippocrites and make no sense at all.

Thanks for proving my point!
Re: Direct Action at Local Army Recruiting Center!
27 May 2004
I also belive that the "Activists" put that freedom of speech poster there. Funny that everyones a hippocrite.
Re: Direct Action at Local Army Recruiting Center!
27 May 2004
Hey James--

The reflection on the sign seems to suggest that it is behind the window, i.e. that an army recruiter employer put it there. If the same people that threatened to "fuck up" J.P. would allow someone to come in and post that, I'd be fairly surprised.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Arrest, felony charges for protester at Boston military recruiter
27 May 2004
BOSTON STUDENT GETS FELONY CHARGES FOR IRAQ PROTEST

press contact:
Carl Williams
carlton (at) igc.org
617-233-5432 cl
617-445-6666

photos at:

http://boston.indymedia.org/newswire/display/21845/index.php

Joe Previtera, a twenty one year old student at Boston College, was arrested Wednesday and charged with felonies after dressing as a hooded Iraqi prisoner in front of a military recruitment center on Tremont St. in downtown Boston. In his arraignment today a Suffolk County District Attorney suggested that Mr. Previtera's bail be set at $10,000. However, a National Lawyers Guild attorney and Mr. Previtera's mother, also an attorney, persuaded the judge to free Previtera on personal recognizance.

Previtera faces misdemeanor charges of disturbing the peace and felony charges of making a false bomb threat and using a hoax device. The charges apparently reflect the District Attorney's concern that Mr. Previtera might have been mistaken for a terrorist. Witnesses say that passersby seemed unconcerned by Mr. Previtera's actions.

After his release today, Previtera said his arrest took him completely by surprise. "I did this hoping that the image of an abused Iraqi prisoner might make people think twice about joining the military ... both for their own safety and because of the abuses they might be asked to committ. Is it reasonable that I face greater punishment for my free speech than do the soldiers who actually committ abuses? Well, this is post-911 America, isn't it?"
This kind of Action is Important
27 May 2004
The military is really hurting for recruits. This is now their biggest bottleneck for conducting warfare. I read a newspaper article stating that they are now sending trainers to Iraq for combat, as there are now so few recruits to train. Every young person we can convince to stay out of the military can save lives. It will also save that person from 4 to 8 years of misery, disrespect, psycological problems, and possible maiming and death. It also helps prevent oil companies from being able to take over the world quite as easily. Even if you are unsuccessful at getting a person to not join up, you are at least getting them to think a little about what may lie ahead. Keep up the good work.
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
27 May 2004
One pic that is now not on here showed that the sign was not there the whole time so it was put up at the time this happened. The sign is clearly on the outside too.
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
28 May 2004
Im with you Joseph. These fuckers dont appreciate what their military does for them. A few stupid soldiers is not worth blaming the whole military. If it wasnt for them these assholes would be shot dead by terrorists that could easily take over. Id like to see them say shit like this when they have no freedom at all.
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
28 May 2004
Protesters - Good work, i hope this protest spreads to other recruiting stations. Thanks you for your bravery in calling attention to the systematic, officially sanctioned and widespread abuses by the US armed forces, not just in Iraq but all over the globe.

James- Get back to work at your recruiting desk, don’t you have poor darkies to trick into getting killed in the middle east for your pal ‘W’ and his friends money? Anyone that thinks that the abuses in Iraq are "just a few bad solders" is beyond naive. It is painfully clear that these low ranking solders are being used as the scapegoats for the intelligence offices and high command that order the abuses in the first place.
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
28 May 2004
Hey jon I feel sorry for you. If you knew anything you would know that the military teaches you to be your own person. They teach that if you think something they order you to do is unmoral then you can bring it up your chain of command. Nobody forced them to abuse the prisoners they just did. I also think that some of the stuff they did was wrong and I dont support W either. I belive this election will be lose/lose but i know that the military does not promote the abuse of prisoners,I went through bootcamp and know what they tought.
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
28 May 2004
yeah well, i went through boot camp. it teaches soldiers how to be racist and neurotic, and to respond to command without question. this last is a soldiers job description. I don't know if you noticed the fine print, James, but being a servicemen means you are precisely NOT your own person.

that's why if you commit an act of self-harm while in military service, you can be charged for damage to state property. that's why they give you a number instead of a name, dress you like everybody else, and give you a frontal lobotomy without your even noticing it. And then, should you have any qualms about the nature of your work, you are certainly free to refer them to your 'chain of command' to which you can expect to receive and follow explicit instructions.

the indoctrinated soldier substitutes state power for personal power, and in that capacity they are the representative of the state, so it is not surprising to read reports that: "A military lawyer ... testified that the commander of coalition forces in Iraq, General Ricardo Sanchez, was present at some prisoner interrogations at the jail and witnessed some of the abuse." source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1223293,00.html

or that: the torture was part of a top secret ‘black ops’ program to elicit information from Iraqi prisoners by subjecting them to extreme humiliation and sexual abuse. According to these sources, the program was approved by U.S Defense Secretary Rumsfeld, and overseen by his protégé, Stephen Cambone, the Under-Secretary for Intelligence. source: http://www.indymedia.org/en/2004/05/111086.shtml

and james, if you only thought that 'some of the stuff [the american soldiers] did was wrong', which parts exactly do you endorse?
Re: Photos of army recruiting action and arrest
28 May 2004
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Just wanted to clearify one point.

I am the photographer of all of these photos and was there for the entirety of the action. The sign in question was put up by the military recruiters on THE INSIDE OF THE GLASS. I believe they did this out of frustration after their first call to the police, possibly trying to turn the situation around and make themselves look better. The sign was taken down right before the arrest.

James I will say only to be careful in believing strongly about something when you don't have all the facts.

peace,
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
28 May 2004
James... One of your posts was hidden (not deleted) because you used threatening language. If you believe torture is wrong then how can you believe beating up someone for their personal views is OK?
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
28 May 2004
Sy Hersch's article "The Gray Zone" in the New Yorker asserts that the Abu Ghraib Torture was not limited to that one prison, but instead was part of a secret operation conducted by a SAP out of the pentagon, ultimately run by The undersecretary of Defense, Stephen Cambone. As more and more major news outlets are reporting, including the BBC and the New York Times, the operation is not even isolated to Iraq but was also carried out in Afghanistan as well. These soldiers WERE carrying out orders, and they did NOT act on their own. It was pretty obvious from the pictures and the video that the torture was situation normal over there so I am surprised that anyone could form the opinion that this was an isolated case. Especially with old Rumsy running the Department of Defense. However, Jame's comment about 'this is not how the military operates' is essentially correct. Servicemen are always careful not to break rules lest they get courtmartialed, it is only when the Pentagon or the CIA get involved that rules begin to be broken left and right.
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
28 May 2004
I do belive torture is wrong but when people insult people that defend this country and protect its people it pisses me off. I have friends and family that fought and died for this country and these "activists" are practicly spitting on their graves by saying every military person is brainwash into doing immoral things. Im in the Marine reserves and if I think something is wrong I dont do it. Nobody can force you. If the courmartial you whats the CO going to say,"He refused to beat prisoners, demote him." No he wouldnt. He would have no case. The soldiers that did that did so by their own free will. Yes, they may have been ordered but they could have refused.
To James
28 May 2004
To James,
Apparently you have a short memory. The Iraqi war was supposed to be about WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. Where are they? Then your president decided to claim he rid the world of a evil dictator. Well James, there are evil dictators all over the world. I don't see Bush doing anything about them. As for this war that will kill young Americans for a decade or more? Every life that is taken in this war? Is another war crime for Bush and his crooks. This war is about OIL!
Look who is surrounding Bush. OIL MEN.
As for the illegal arrest? You should be outraged!
Taking sides of the Bush Administration shows that you need real education!
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
28 May 2004
Hey James,
I have nothing but total respect for ANY and ALL of our brave soldiers who are and have been willing to give their lives for our freedom. They all deserve our utmost respect.
However, with that said, this despicable massacre and invasion of Iraq is yet another sickening example of how in the U.S., not only can you get away with lying and cheating your way into the highest public office in the country, you can also use a horrific event (9/11) that you and your sorry assed cohorts allowed to happenand then use it as a pretext to start a war that only you and your buddies at Kellogg, Brown & Root, Halliburton and Bechtel and others are profitting from.
Wake the fuck up James! I sincerely don't wanna see you be yet another brave young marine to get suckered into dying in Iraq just so that some assholes at Halliburton can get get rich, or is it richer? That piece of shit invasion in Iraq has NEVER been about anybody's freedom! Your/our country was NEVER attacked by ANY Iraqi!
How 'bout I send you an actual photo of Donald Rumsfeld smiling and shaking hands with Saddam Hussein?
Go back and read the fuckin' newspapers in the 80's. Stop watching bullshit news on TV! Do your own goddamned research and see for yourself just who gave Saddam Hussein more and more weapons like mustard gas and anthrax every time he butchered thousands of people.
I've served in the military and there's no fuckin' way that I'd ever risk my life for any of these assholes that are running things right now. Haven't you noticed that NONE of their children are over there risking their lives while serving their country in Iraq? This ain't got a fucking thing to do with serving your country!
When I start seeing the Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, Rice, Rove, Wolfolwitz and Kerry children coming home dead in caskets, then and only then will I take any of those assholes seriously.
Don't let 'em send you over there and turn you into another savage. Find a way to stay stateside brother.
And remember, you wanna talk about atrocities happening right here on this soil? Talk to some fuckin' Black and Indian people! Here's a couple of links in case you actually have the balls to look at the horribile truth:
http://www.maafa.org

How many millions and millions of Black people are there that have been raped, bought and sold and worked to death for free labor? How many millions and millions of Indians did the U.S. government actually pay to have killed by it's racist and bloodthirsty soldiers and citizens?
http://www.iwchildren.org/redskinhate.htm

I'll say it again, no Iraqi attacked yours and my country! You've been lied to and it just might cost you your life too!
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
28 May 2004
I do not agree with the Bush administration. I dont belive in fighting for oil. I do belive in fighting for freedom and a better way for life. Getting rid of Saddam was a good thing but trying to take over their oil is not. I know many Marines and soldiers that would like to forget about screwing over Iraq and get on to helping more countries. Its not the military thats fucking up it is our leaders. Our country was a great country till Kennedy was shot. After that the goverment took over running the military and used them for their political wars. The reason I signed up was to protect not only our freedom but protect others freedom. This should not be about blaming our military for this action, it should be about blaming this administration for its actions. Our military is a proud group of men and women that risk their lives for you. The ones that abuse prisoners are a disgrace to this country.
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
29 May 2004
Freedom is not the objective unfortunately. The idea that we are "Fighting for Freedom" is a front. We're fighting for open markets, at the expense of freedom, and we've been doing it since at least 1947, well before ole JFK. If you'll refere to the books you'll find that JFK organized the bay of pigs, an operation that ran counter to the majority of the Cuban population's wishes. The first intervention was Greece 1947, the second Guatemala 1954 when we kicked out Arbenz with a bunch of paid mercenaries. Arbenz was incredibly popular in that country- his error? Confiscating land that the United Fruit Company WASN'T using. Fallow land! Guatemala was never the same and over the decades hundreds of thousands of innocents were killed. This is all in a country full of the nicest people you could ever imagine, many of them descended from Maya indians and at the time, still living in semi traditional ways. The list of countries after that is long and bloody. You will never convince me, or anyone who has truly studied history that America is in the business of creating free countries!
freedom interventions?!
29 May 2004
may28_r8_c4_f2.jpg
An interactive chronicle of all US military, proxy and covert 'interventions' of the past 200 years!(A Flash Presentation by Adbusters Magazine)

http://adbusters.org/jams/history/flash.html
Re: freedom interventions?!
29 May 2004
Pete is absolutely correct; the US military is in the business of opening markets and protecting US economic interests, corporations and trade roots. But I would contest that this did not start in 1947, having done extensive research into it I would argue that it stated the day America became a nation…above is an amazing and well put together flash presentation meticulously documenting all US “interventions” over the past 200 years. Its not a pretty picture. And has nothing whatsoever to do with "democracy" and even less to do with “freedom”.
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
29 May 2004
>>"He refused to beat prisoners, demote him."
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
29 May 2004
Yes James, that is exactly what they would say. Only they would phrase it more like “He refused to follow orders, he is a danger to his unit, court marshal him” …

In fact that is exactly what happened to a Ex-Marine Staff Sergeant Jimmy Massey who was in the initial invasion…below is a link to his story and radio interview on the “Democracy Now” radio program.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/05/24/148212

"He immediately went to my commanding officer, Captain Schmitt and proceeded to tell him about how I felt about Iraq. Word spread pretty quickly and I knew that my Marine Corps career was over. I knew that the statement that I had just made was going to bring about the blackball pretty quickly. So, I was scurried out of Iraq quickly, and ordered to report back stateside to receive psychological therapy for post-traumatic stress disorder and major depression. When I got back stateside, that's when things really became ugly. I felt like the staff sergeant that just received the prison sentence for a year. I had to hire a lawyer because they were trying to pin me with conscientious objector, and basically, they were doing everything in their power to threaten me and to intimidate me so that I would go U.A."
Pat Tillman Killed By Friendly Fire
29 May 2004
Today we find out that Pat Tillman was killed by friendly fire.
So whether you get shot by enemy or friendly...You're a hero.
A neighbor of mine told me that when people were killed by friendly? Usually, that person wasn't liked by his fellow soldiers.
My neighbor fought in Vietnam. Wounded twice. Two tours. 66-68. I think he knows what he is talking about.
The story of Tillman will never be known.
War should be the last resort.
With Bush and his warmongering buddies?
It's the first resort.
Systematic Abuse vs. few bad apples
29 May 2004
Israeli torture tactics routinely use sexual torture, stripping, and photo-documenting for threat of later humiliation. Palestinians have been reporting this kind of abuse for decades.

I am not suggesting for one minute that the US military with its hundreds years longer record of genocide and conquest needs Israeli thugs or anyone else to teach them about sadism or inhumanity, but the adoption of a particular systematic pattern that is already widespread in the Occupied Territories and was used during hte occupation of Lebanon should be noted... especially since Israeli "advisors" are helping Boston firm up its police state for the Democan Nationali$t Convention this summer. The IDF shoots protesters, murders children with sniper fire, and then spins it all so nicely with "suspected terrorists" or destroys thousands of people's homes b/c of "alleged tunnels" beneath them. I think the IDF has honed some of the skills and Uncle $cum can still get worse. Are people in the Boston Area going to stand up to this? Or will we roll over and let the police state solidify? It all depends on us.

Richard Pic arrested for not showing ID at the protest when Bush came to town?

The Lafayette 8 charged with double felonies and slandered by city officials for planting flowers on publically owned and vacant space?

This arrest and felony charge of JP for dressing up as a torture victim?

What's next, banning halloween? I know I will feel much "safer" when we are all under 23 hour house arrest, forbidden from aggregating in groups of three or more, and forced to wear uniforms...

If the surveillance, police collaboration with the Israeli consulate, false arrests, and torture of Arab activists in our community didn't make you nervous, these escallations should cause us all to wake up and smell the fascism.
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
29 May 2004
So much for "freedom of speech" "freedom to protest" The army recruiters could have got quite a few more lame-brained sadists to sign up if they had let the decoy stand there for a while. There should have been a lot more cops, as that guy looks really dangerous.
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
29 May 2004
Aimee, who do you think taught the Israelis to use those tactics? The US also taught them to Latin American client governments at the School of the Americas and elsewhere. No surprise that the US should now be doing it...

That said, I don't think that we'll be seeing demonstrators shot in Boston this summer. But I do think that we may see more of the kinds of bullshit arrests that you mention and other dirty tricks. The more that the cops can both scare people now AND convince the public that demonstrators are a threat, the better off they are. Which means that it's our job to make sure that protests involve a strong community base and that we answer attempts to smear us. The less isolated we are, the less vulnerable.
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
29 May 2004
anyone doing some solidarity actions for the victim? does he want them?
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
31 May 2004
James buddy, it curves inward, give it up. Unless you are inclined to believe as I do that the army gives two shits about free speech.
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
31 May 2004
Ah, Just1pin thanks for the clarification. I didn't see that.

Makes me feel all better.
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
31 May 2004
Matt,
While you are correct that Uncle $cum needs no teacher when it comes to sadism and genocidal pathology, it is also true that the IDF (Israeli Defense Forces)and the terror organs it was formed out of have much more sustained experience of genocide against Arabs. That is why they hired Israeli contractors to teach techniques of closures, raids, etc. The prison practices are no exception.

http://www.counterpunch.org/madsen05102004.html
"According to a political appointee within the Bush administration and U.S. intelligence sources, the interrogators at Abu Ghraib included a number of Arabic-speaking Israelis who also helped U.S. interrogators develop the "R2I" (Resistance to Interrogation) techniques. Many of the torture methods were developed by the Israelis over many years of interrogating Arab prisoners on the occupied West Bank and in Israel itself."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1102940,00.html

"'We recently travelled to Israel to glean lessons learned from their counterterrorist operations in urban areas,' wrote General Vane, deputy chief of staff at the army's training and doctrine command."
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
01 Jun 2004
This is terrible. I am glad I left the USA after I recieved my masters degree last may. If the republicans get their way people like this kid will be getting the death penalty next year. I forget the bill# but there is a bill that exists that would give the death penalty to anyone who can get over a year in jail and is involved with "terrorism" such as having a costume that someone could interpret as a bomb.

LEAVE THE USA NOW, START THE BRAIN DRAIN RUN TO CANADA, JAMAICA, NIGERIA, SOUTH AFRICA, NEW ZEALAND, IRELAND, just go, get out while you still can
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
02 Jun 2004
Feeling the need to exercise my right to free speech …. J


1) What kind of sick people would re-enact such an event?!?!? I’m sure there is some kind of lame excuse such as protesting the abuse scandals that recently happened. I would be interested to know if these same people demonstrated against civilian’s heads being cut off.

2) Hey if they did this in front of my building I would want them to go away too. Why are the AFCC’s statements not accepted as free speech?

3) I noticed the writer of this article selected some very select phrases when referring to the AFCC statements. Was that the only thing that was said? Why focus on only the negative. Why not publish everything that was said and allow the public to form an opinion for themselves – they said the incident was recorded so they should be able to post the entire transcript. But instead they choose to lead the reader down the path they wanted to. Sounds to me like these guys were picking a confrontation and doing it under guise of a protest.

4) I noticed they talked about the AFCC guy grabbing a protester, but there are no pictures of it. Given the highly negative attitude of this article I’m surprised these were not published – sounds a little suspect to me.

5) Apparently the protesters video taped and took pictures through out the ‘action’, why is the AFCC person taking a Polaroid such a big deal? Do we have a double standard here?

6) Several law enforcement people apparently walked by with no reaction. This makes me believe even more that the protesters when there picking a confrontation. The proof is that in an ordinary area no one would have noticed the protesters. The police only came after the AFCC called them. If they did not pick a confrontation no one would have known this little ‘action’ even happened.

7) So the protesters are resorting to lip reading. Yeah there is a reliable source of information.

8) So the Police finally came – that’s what happens when people call the police – even if you are a protester in need of help.

9) With all of the wacked out people out there the protesters almost sound shocked they were questioned by the police. I think the average person would be shocked if they were not questioned!!! Just as the protesters have rights so do the tax paying citizens – the police definitely were representing the people here.

10) Here is a guy with ‘wires’ hanging off of his hands. Should it have been such a surprise the bomb squad was called in? I seem to remember something in the news the last few years about people blowing themselves up. I also seem to remember the suicide bombers did not have a sign saying they were about to blow themselves up so everyone would know they were not just protesters.

11) Good job bomb squad – be sure to check the guy thoroughly.

12) Apparently the bomb squad did not inspect the protester fast enough – sorry protester, they were probably getting briefed by their colleagues and preparing a nice calm professional approach to dealing with the ‘action’. The protesters had plenty of time on their hands ( obviously ) so why were they so rushed to get inspected.

13) OK so now the bomb squad was too slow, but the police asked too many questions, and the protesters did not like the questions.

14) Remember the police have a right to free speech too so why are the protesters so upset with the questions. On top of it the protesters knew and voiced that they had a right not to respond. I would encourage the protesters to exercise that right on a much more regular basis.

15) So the protesters are upset they were not told why their friend was arrested. Are the police required to do so? I think they are only required to tell the person they are arresting. I’m sure a lawyer would be waiting with baited breath if the police did not follow the rules. So if the police do not have to tell the friends of the person they are arresting the reason why they are making the arrest why are the protesters apparently so upset about this? Why should the police lift one finger to do anything they don’t have to for these protesters?

16) When the police officer talked to the protesters at the police station, why are his free speech rights any less than the protesters. If they guy is upset then he has as much a right to voice his opinion as the protesters. The people that re-enacted a torture scene are upset the officer called them an asshole – does anyone else see the irony with this?

17) I agree with the police officer – scum!!!

18) So what was the guy arrested for. I noticed that was conveniently left out. I could make a supposition that there was already an arrest warrant out for this guy – but that would be leading you down a path I wanted to take you and not one necessarily related to what happened.

19) I could go on and on exercising my freedom of speech but I want to get back to actually contributing my small part to society.

(This article was received via e-mail, posted by request and edited by IMC Editor)
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
02 Jun 2004
Hey J,
You've been smoking too many j's! Kiss cops asses all you want. Freedom of Speech is a right of a Free Democracy. Take it away? Your sorry ass won't be posting nothing!
The gestapo police should arrest the bribe taking politicians on Beacon Hill. Not a kid showing what the world knows is true. The military trains killers that can't tell right from wrong.
Get a life j...Then get some education!
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
03 Jun 2004
STAND against TORTURE & for FREEDOM of EXPRESSION!

Saturday, June 5th, 11am - 1pm
Armed Forces Recruiting Center
141 Tremont St. (steps from Park St.)

WHAT TO EXPECT:
~An Energized Demonstration~
~Political Theater~
~Demands for Accountability~
~Appearance of a Cabinet-Level Bush Official~

WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT:
Most of you know that the physical and psychological torture that took place at Abu Ghraib was not restricted to Iraq. These practices were already well established in Afghanistan and Guantanamo, where the Geneva Conventions have been deemed inconvenient. Moreover, military and
media investigations have revealed that these acts were not the work of a few "bad apples," but
were widespread. This is combined with the Red Cross's conclusion that 90% of Abu Ghraib's prisoners should never have been detained in the first place.

These gross injustices demand a response, but the Boston Police Department hasn't reviewed the Bill of Rights recently. One week ago, a small, peaceful demonstration at the recruiting center ended when an activist dressed as a prisoner was arrested. The story and photos are available at:

http://boston.indymedia.org/newswire/display/21845/index.php

The pattern of arresting people on bogus charges to stifle dissent must be stopped. Having the charges thrown out a few months (or years) down the line does not preserve our freedom of expression. This ongoing police strategy is unconstitutional!

¡¡COME OUT SATURDAY TO DEMAND JUSTICE & SHOW THE CITY THAT WE WILL BE HEARD!!

PRESS COVERAGE:
http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/this_just_in/documents
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/06/03/142254
http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=30252
A Piece of History
11 Jun 2004
For all the people laying blame to Bush, saying he's a warmonger, we had no business there, etc, etc...shame this is an election year and everybody is going back on what they said previously... and not only for the sake of appeasement.

QUOTES to remember;

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has .. chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." -
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
To: JP
12 Jun 2004
Saddam had gassed the Kurds with U.S. government biological weapons. Given to him from the Reagan Administration!
Am I sick of listening to half-ass excuses for this illegitimate war? Yes.
Don't protect an administration who went into war for scumbag oil companies.
This president doesn't deserve any protection.
He is a self-centered, egotistical, liar! The only fact I see about Bush? Going back to Texas in January of 2005!
Patriotising is for the soldiers.
Not for a person who is friends with bin Laden's family. Or a plain, out right liar!
Remember this JP...You are responsible for your actions.
So is the supposed president of our fallen democracy.
Whether you like it or not. This administration has failed democracy!
Go back to school.
Quit believing television!
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
12 Jun 2004
Don't lie man. The U.S. had nothing to do with the mustard gas used against the Kurds. I provided proof that not only conservatives, but liberals believed in the war however re-nigged on previous statements for the sake of appeasement during an election year. Your right I don't believe the media because its all liberal nonsense. Show some proof as I did to back your comments. And I am in school and am interning with ACT! I speak with extremely progressive liberals on a daily basis and have found a way to remain in the middle. I have concluded that the dems are a bunch of elite rich lawyers taking advantage of the black and middle-class vote. I am split over Bush and Kerry at the moment and don't believe there is a lesser of the two evils. Neither is good for our country. As far as JP getting arrested in Boston it was a complete violation of civil rights. There is a constitution party, so you might want to concider voting for them if you don't believe in Kerry, Bush or voting for Nader which is stealing votes for Bush.
What happened to the WMDs?
12 Jun 2004
UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after



SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, June 11, 2004
The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of mass destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles before, during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003.

The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the Security Council on new findings that could help trace the whereabouts of Saddam's missile and WMD program.

The briefing contained satellite photographs that demonstrated the speed with which Saddam dismantled his missile and WMD sites before and during the war. Council members were shown photographs of a ballistic missile site outside Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a satellite image of the same location in February 2004, in which facilities had disappeared.


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UNMOVIC acting executive chairman Demetrius Perricos told the council on June 9 that "the only controls at the borders are for the weight of the scrap metal, and to check whether there are any explosive or radioactive materials within the scrap," Middle East Newsline reported.
"It's being exported," Perricos said after the briefing. "It's being traded out. And there is a large variety of scrap metal from very new to very old, and slowly, it seems the country is depleted of metal."

"The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard to proliferation risks," Perricos told the council. Perricos also reported that inspectors found Iraqi WMD and missile components shipped abroad that still contained UN inspection tags.

He said the Iraqi facilities were dismantled and sent both to Europe and around the Middle East. at the rate of about 1,000 tons of metal a month. Destionations included Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey.

The Baghdad missile site contained a range of WMD and dual-use components, UN officials said. They included missile components, reactor vessel and fermenters – the latter required for the production of chemical and biological warheads.

"It raises the question of what happened to the dual-use equipment, where is it now and what is it being used for," Ewen Buchanan, Perricos's spokesman, said. "You can make all kinds of pharmaceutical and medicinal products with a fermenter. You can also use it to breed anthrax."

The UNMOVIC report said Iraqi missiles were dismantled and exported to such countries as Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey. In the Dutch city of Rotterdam, an SA-2 surface-to-air missile, one of at least 12, was discovered in a junk yard, replete with UN tags. In Jordan, UN inspectors found 20 SA-2 engines as well as components for solid-fuel for missiles.

"The problem for us is that we don't know what may have passed through these yards and other yards elsewhere," Buchanan said. "We can't really assess the significance and don't know the full extent of activity that could be going on there or with others of Iraq's neighbors."

UN inspectors have assessed that the SA-2 and the short-range Al Samoud surface-to-surface missile were shipped abroad by agents of the Saddam regime. Buchanan said UNMOVIC plans to inspect other sites, including in Turkey.

In April, International Atomic Energy Agency director-general Mohammed El Baradei said material from Iraqi nuclear facilities were being smuggled out of the country.
What happened to the WMDs?
12 Jun 2004
UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after



SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, June 11, 2004
The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of mass destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles before, during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003.

The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the Security Council on new findings that could help trace the whereabouts of Saddam's missile and WMD program.

The briefing contained satellite photographs that demonstrated the speed with which Saddam dismantled his missile and WMD sites before and during the war. Council members were shown photographs of a ballistic missile site outside Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a satellite image of the same location in February 2004, in which facilities had disappeared.


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UNMOVIC acting executive chairman Demetrius Perricos told the council on June 9 that "the only controls at the borders are for the weight of the scrap metal, and to check whether there are any explosive or radioactive materials within the scrap," Middle East Newsline reported.
"It's being exported," Perricos said after the briefing. "It's being traded out. And there is a large variety of scrap metal from very new to very old, and slowly, it seems the country is depleted of metal."

"The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard to proliferation risks," Perricos told the council. Perricos also reported that inspectors found Iraqi WMD and missile components shipped abroad that still contained UN inspection tags.

He said the Iraqi facilities were dismantled and sent both to Europe and around the Middle East. at the rate of about 1,000 tons of metal a month. Destionations included Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey.

The Baghdad missile site contained a range of WMD and dual-use components, UN officials said. They included missile components, reactor vessel and fermenters – the latter required for the production of chemical and biological warheads.

"It raises the question of what happened to the dual-use equipment, where is it now and what is it being used for," Ewen Buchanan, Perricos's spokesman, said. "You can make all kinds of pharmaceutical and medicinal products with a fermenter. You can also use it to breed anthrax."

The UNMOVIC report said Iraqi missiles were dismantled and exported to such countries as Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey. In the Dutch city of Rotterdam, an SA-2 surface-to-air missile, one of at least 12, was discovered in a junk yard, replete with UN tags. In Jordan, UN inspectors found 20 SA-2 engines as well as components for solid-fuel for missiles.

"The problem for us is that we don't know what may have passed through these yards and other yards elsewhere," Buchanan said. "We can't really assess the significance and don't know the full extent of activity that could be going on there or with others of Iraq's neighbors."

UN inspectors have assessed that the SA-2 and the short-range Al Samoud surface-to-surface missile were shipped abroad by agents of the Saddam regime. Buchanan said UNMOVIC plans to inspect other sites, including in Turkey.

In April, International Atomic Energy Agency director-general Mohammed El Baradei said material from Iraqi nuclear facilities were being smuggled out of the country.
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
12 Jun 2004
Don't lie man. The U.S. had nothing to do with the mustard gas used against the Kurds. I provided proof that not only conservatives, but liberals believed in the war however re-nigged on previous statements for the sake of appeasement during an election year. Your right I don't believe the media because its all liberal nonsense. Show some proof as I did to back your comments. And I am in school and am interning with ACT! I speak with extremely progressive liberals on a daily basis and have found a way to remain in the middle. I have concluded that the dems are a bunch of elite rich lawyers taking advantage of the black and middle-class vote. I am split over Bush and Kerry at the moment and don't believe there is a lesser of the two evils. Neither is good for our country. As far as JP getting arrested in Boston it was a complete violation of civil rights. There is a constitution party, so you might want to concider voting for them if you don't believe in Kerry, Bush or voting for Nader which is stealing votes for Bush.
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
25 Jun 2004
Ehmmm you guys always answer that many questions when a police officer asks?? Im just wondering since we do handle things different here in europe. But very good action indeed.
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
10 Jul 2004
On a small note.
James and J are one in the same. The Speech patterns are identical and J's first post was a long premeditated one, with a numbered list.
(See? This is why I'd make a good P.I.!)

James, If you feel threatened by a forum so much that you feel you must change your identity, there's a simple solution.

Look on your screen.

See that box in the corner of the window?
(It's marked with an 'X')

Click on it.

To everyone else.
One death does not justify another.
When you follow this statement around to every variation, limitation and instance in Human history and you learn exactly what this means, you'll understand my viewpoint.Ghandi once said:
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."

PS: I'm rooting for JP.
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
20 Jul 2004
mpegs porn
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
29 Jul 2004
Wow...the activist has balls!
Powerful...you really did piss off Big Brother!
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
18 Aug 2004
I'm sorry to hear that this poor man was arrested for holding a peaceful protest. But this just goes to show that sometimes even trying to make your point whether it be peaceful or not, may all be the same when the people u are trying to influence have all ready made up there minds on the issue you are trying to represent. the point you are trying to make can easily be over looked when it comes to defending someone or a group of people that have already been deemed terrorists.
Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
10 Nov 2005
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Re: Direct Action at Local Armed Forces Recruiting Center!
05 Feb 2006
Well, I hope this guy feels good for himself. I happen to be Private First Class John Previtera, USMC, and while I far from believe in everything our current administration is doing I don't believe that Joe had any right to defame all of the military because of the actions of a few. I am mildly offended as well as ashamed that this man shares my name.