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News :: DNC : Human Rights
Crack Down in Boston Continues
25 Jul 2004
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Earlier today activists from Seeds of Peace and the Boston Center for Non-Violent Social Change were detained and searched for 4 and half-hours. Activists from Seeds of Peace arrived in Boston with their bus converted to be utilized as a mobile kitchen for events in Boston during the DNC as well as the DNC2RNC march. The Boston Center for Non-Violent Social Change had secured a lease on private property to park the bus through the week of the DNC.
Crack Down In Boston Continues

Earlier today activists from Seeds of Peace and the Boston Center for Non-Violent Social Change were detained and searched for 4 and half-hours. Activists from Seeds of Peace arrived in Boston with their bus converted to be utilized as a mobile kitchen for events in Boston during the DNC as well as the DNC2RNC march. The Boston Center for Non-Violent Social Change had secured a lease on private property to park the bus through the week of the DNC.

When the bus pulled into park in the lot Boston Police arrived to inspect their presence. The police inquired as to what was on the bus and the activist informed them that they possessed propane tanks necessary for cooking at events. The police officer then called the fire department to search the bus for possible hazard materials. The activists informed the police officer that they did not consent to a search but were informed that the fire department did not require a warrant to search.

The activists then contacted the National Lawyers Guild to seek assistance. The Lawyers promptly responded to the call and arrived on the seen to assist in answering, and not answering questions.

Shortly there after three fire tucks, EMS, haz-mat, Bomb Squad, and officers from the Secret Service, Homeland security, state police, and the FBI came to investigate the supposedly dangerous kitchen. After four hours of attempted interrogation, dog sniffing and investigation the police left with 4 empty propane tanks and one full one. They also searched the activist’s medical supplies but later determined them harmless.

This event was yet another waist of the city and states recources as well as an abuse of our civil Liberties. Add this to the number of unwarranted preemptive assault on activists leading up to the DNC.

None of the activists were arrested however with the propane confiscated they are left wondering how they are going to prepare the food for activists that they had planned. The National Lawyers Guild is researching legal issues around storing propane and weather the Seeds of Peace will get back their propane tanks. In the mean time, if anyone has access to propane tanks or money to donate for buying them please e-mail coffeepoo3 (at) yahoo.com or call 617.492.8473.

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Re: Crack Down in Boston Continues
24 Jul 2004
Out of curiosity, where was your bus to be parked?
Re: Crack Down in Boston Continues
25 Jul 2004
Well, as long as you didn't have any "materials to produce pepper spray" this time, I guess you're off the hook...

Joking aside, SOLIDARITY--I hope the pigs give your gas back in a timely manner.
Re: Crack Down in Boston Continues
25 Jul 2004
Nothing wrong with these people sleeping in their bus and feeding people... not everyone is into this "martyr" shit.
Re: Crack Down in Boston Continues
25 Jul 2004
"the police left with 4 empty propane tanks and one full one."

What was on the menu anyway?

I don't think we are getting the full story here.

WTF do you need propane for in JULY!!!!!!!

Cold sandwiches are good, I cannot imagin them baking the bread in the bus.

By the way, I am not totally unrealistic, I can think of one VERY good reason to have propane tanks in a bus serving food in July, can you?

Why just bring one full and FOUR empty
???????
Re: Crack Down in Boston Continues
25 Jul 2004
BTW - propane is also used for refridgeration. I doubt they had easy access to ice all weekend and propane consistantly keeps food at a safe temperature. And propane in July? Have you ever heard of a cookout? Millions of people across the US spend June, July & August outdoors cooking on their grill. If they didn't have the ability to use propane for refridgeration, salads made from produce, lunchmeat and bread would not stay edible in the hot summer sun.
Re: Crack Down in Boston Continues
25 Jul 2004
It's beyond ridiculous to come on here and post that Seeds of Peace and the Boston Center for Non-Violent Social Change (!!) were planning violent terrorist actions. Fuck off, trolls.
How the "trolling" works.
25 Jul 2004
Having studied political "trolling" for some time, and having read about how the police set up circumstances to obtain warrents, I believe that these "trolls" are really cops.

Here is the typical modus operandi in these posts. The trolls make assertions or claims that some illegal activity is underway. The trolls making these posts are anonymous because if they were not anonymous, the judge to whom they submit the posts as evidence would deny the cops a warrent based on the fact that it is the cops themselves making the allegations.

"Probable cause" is generated on the internet through anonymous posts made by the same cops needing "probable cause" to obtain a warrent.

It's that simple.
Hi Seeds...how ya doin'?
25 Jul 2004
Hey Seeds, how ya doin'? I flew out here from Oakland, am staying at Boston Catholic Worker's Haley House, and am registered for the 258 mile radpeace march to NYC after the meaningless DNC spectacle is over. I am looking forward to your fine on-the-road cooking. I'll participate if you like...make contact.
Re: Crack Down in Boston Continues
26 Jul 2004
If you have the same budget problems most non-profits do, I'm not surprised that four of five propane tanks were empty. And the quantity sounds reasonable for a mass feeding operation. Ten would be a tad excessive, 2 would be not enough.
local propane support
26 Jul 2004
It seems like one way to deal with this propane situation would be to do some sort of deal with the owner of the land (lease) where the local owner provides you with the propane or some service contract written in with the lease for a local propane person to provide what's needed,etc. This way the police would be looking at coming down on some local business or local person instead of you.
LMAO at energy technician
26 Jul 2004
You do realise the full story do you?

"Seeds of Peace arrived in Boston with their bus converted to be utilized as a mobile kitchen for events in Boston" containing 4 empty 130lbs (and you know propane tanks are never "empty") and one full one parked next to the Frida Bus which is "Frida Bus:The Frida Bus, our mobile, biodiesel-powered community space" a Biodiesel powered veichle, that is, it runs on waste cooking oil that has been transformed into Biodiesel by using sodium hydroxide and METHANOL!

So, you have one unregulated bus that has 5 130lbs propane tanks in it parked next to a bus that is a demonstrator for Biodiesel production, how much methanol did they bring?

DNC or no DNC, that combination needed looking at. Not from a "terrorist" angle but from a public safty point of view.

Can IMC report the full unbiased story please?
Re: Crack Down in Boston Continues
26 Jul 2004
This sounds like a violation of the geneva convention but then again this is a country that abuses and humiliates P.O.W.While taking oil. anyways. Coffee sucks when its made with cold water and cold pasta-potatoe- three bean salads suck when you use uncooked pasta, potatoes and beans.
All this yelling and screaming
26 Jul 2004
Just because the police removed a tank of non renewable energy....

You shouldn't even be using propane in the first place!!!

Use solar cookers. They are effective and cheap to build.

It is people like you that rely on Middle East oil that caused the war in iraq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Crack Down in Boston Continues
26 Jul 2004
This is a country that abuses and humiliates P.O.W.While taking oil. anyways. Coffee sucks when its made with cold water and cold pasta-potatoe- three bean salads suck when you use uncooked pasta, potatoes and beans.

Um sunshine, that is why we take oil because, as you say, "three bean salads suck when you use uncooked pasta"

Is the message getting through?
the bottom line
26 Jul 2004
only the police would point out why its good for the police to confiscate private property hmmmm...
Re: Crack Down in Boston Continues
26 Jul 2004
whats with all of the trolls? "three fire tucks, EMS, haz-mat, Bomb Squad, and officers from the Secret Service, Homeland security, state police, and the FBI" came down on some pacifist free food groups like a ton of bricks. thats the fuckin story. I wonder if any laws were actually broken, and if so, how they're usually enforced.
Re: Crack Down in Boston Continues
28 Jul 2004
It sounds like the BFD did them a favor. Keeping propane tanks in an enclosed space is not exactly safe. You wouldn't want Seeds of Peace blowing themselves up while they cooked their tofu dogs.