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Commentary :: DNC
DNC not to blame for "Free Speech Zones"
27 Jul 2004
Demonstrators are being corralled in pens like pigs. Speaking of which, the cops are in fullbody armour with National Guardsmen at the ready.

All of this looks poorly on the DNC, as they are at the focus of so much disdain from the demonstrators who are visiting. "Isn't the entire country a free speech zone?" they ask. And rightfully so.

But the DNC didn't call this one. It was out of their hands.

Who set up the barbed-wire, the armed guards, the fences?

The Department of Homeland Security and the Secret Service.
A polite refusal

I know what you're thinking.

You've seen it in the news and posted everywhere that the Hub is pretty much in lockdown due to the Democratic National Convention.

Demonstrators are being corralled in pens like pigs. Speaking of which, the cops are in fullbody armour with National Guardsmen at the ready.

All of this looks poorly on the DNC, as they are at the focus of so much disdain from the demonstrators who are visiting. "Isn't the entire country a free speech zone?" they ask. And rightfully so.

But the DNC didn't call this one. It was out of their hands.

Who set up the barbed-wire, the armed guards, the fences?

The Department of Homeland Security and the Secret Service.

I'll bet you, this mess is being watched closely by the Dems' opposition. And they are laughing, knowing that the DNC will look bad for all this. While those who are convinced that there is no difference between the GOP and the DNC parties will point to this and say, "Ah-ha! Now look who's throwing their vote away?"

There is so much anger at past differences and difficulties, it is quite difficult to inspire to others who have already made up their mind -- people who are rational-thinking, good, loving people of freedom -- to notice the stakes are too high. We complain about the mistakes some (not all) Dems made with choosing to go to war with Iraq. I ask, wouldn't it be nice to have someone who'll admit he's made a mistake and it willing to fix it. Right now, we have someone sitting in DC in denial of this.

Wouldn't it be nice to have someone who will admit, like most Americans, they were duped, work to regain the lost liberties we have?

We need to be sure that we are living in a more equitable political climate, where dissent is fine, even if you disagree with the President.

If there is no difference between the GOP or the DNC, why is the GOP hell-bent to make sure you don't vote for the other guy? If it doesn't matter they wouldn't care, right?

Well, as one person put it, "You don't know what you got until it's gone." I remember what my civil liberties were like, don't you? (Keep in mind, if the wrong people see this, I risk arrest.)

Allow me to paraphrase Abraham Ribicoff, ever slightly: With John Kerry as President of the United States, we wouldn't have Gestapo tactics in the streets of Boston."

So, to the punk-rock guy with the Accused T-shirt on who interrupted me studying for Jesus Christ Superstar to have me sign a petition to get your desperate guy on the ballot, the answer is, politely, no.

I now await your bitchslaps.
See also:
http://striking13.blogspot.com/2004/07/polite-refusal.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3925259.stm

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Re: DNC not to blame for "Free Speech Zones"
27 Jul 2004
the least the democrats could do is condemn this blatant assault on free speech and constitutional rights.

but instead, they are saying, "they're are other ways to have your voice heard other than protesting."
Re: DNC not to blame for "Free Speech Zones"
27 Jul 2004
No, the DNC isn't to blame, BUT they have power they aren't using to speak out against it. And that makes it far more likely that this kind of shit will contniue to snowball. When you're one of the two US political parties and something is happening to "protect" you, there is some obligation to speak out.
Re: DNC not to blame for "Free Speech Zones"
27 Jul 2004
You claim that the DNC is not to blame but rather the Department of Fatherland Security and the SS(secret service). The DNC supports both.
Re: DNC not to blame for "Free Speech Zones"
27 Jul 2004
The DNC and the Democrats are just as much to blame as the dept of homeland security. There is no significant difference between the democrats and the republicans. Kerry voted for the PATRIOT act (even helped write part of it) and if it wasnt for the election coming up he would have voted for PATRIOT II. That alone is enough to tell me that he is not on our side where civil liberties are concerned. What we need in this country is a new electoral system that can bring us closer to that day when we need no electoral system at all.
Re: DNC not to blame for "Free Speech Zones"
27 Jul 2004
i wonder what you have to say about the repressive tactics used four years ago at the DNC in LA? clinton was president then and there was no department of homeland security. the truth is that this system has never been alright with open dissent and will always fight back with repressive tactics.
Re: DNC not to blame for "Free Speech Zones"
27 Jul 2004
Hmph, if they're the victims of such a slanderous trick, then why not condemn it, as everyone's saying? Perhaps because it keeps that nasty protest at bay?
Re: DNC not to blame for "Free Speech Zones"
27 Jul 2004
"We complain about the mistakes some (not all) Dems made with choosing to go to war with Iraq. I ask, wouldn't it be nice to have someone who'll admit he's made a mistake and it willing to fix it. Right now, we have someone sitting in DC in denial of this."

When did John Kerry say that he made a mistake in going to war in Iraq?
Re: DNC not to blame for "Free Speech Zones"
27 Jul 2004
Baloney!

you're trying to be an apologist for a bunch of senators and representatives and people in positions of power?!?!?

they could've stopped it, except for the blatant fact that it's in the interests of their corporate masters to supress dissent.
Re: DNC not to blame for "Free Speech Zones"
27 Jul 2004
" Allow me to paraphrase Abraham Ribicoff, ever slightly: With John Kerry as President of the United States, we wouldn't have Gestapo tactics in the streets of Boston."

obviously you weren't present at the DNC in L.A.
Re: DNC not to blame for "Free Speech Zones"
27 Jul 2004
FUNNY..i and many others were ruthlessly attacked in the"protest pit" at the DNC in los angeles in 2000..i think
YES..bill clinton ..a democrat was president for that one..
AND that was pre 9/11..this is nothing "new"..LOOK
AT THE SYSTEMIC CAUSES..dont demonize individuals..
even when thay are as horrifing as GWB..America LET the
junta take place..LOOK IN THE MIRROR to find your demons
Re: DNC not to blame for "Free Speech Zones"
27 Jul 2004
really now, would anyone want someone else in the White House (they've been in DC all along after all - they're hardly outsiders) that's so prone to such lethal "mistakes" and so easily "duped"?! Does this say more about their principles or their IQ's? Anyhow, anyone that's reduced to quoting such a dubious political hack as Abe Ribicoff is a obviously a lost cause to begin with!
Re: DNC not to blame for "Free Speech Zones"
27 Jul 2004
Vote for Skull & Bones!

BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO CHOICE
Re: DNC not to blame for "Free Speech Zones"
27 Jul 2004
A need was seen to keep idiots in cages. You look just fine in there.
Re: DNC not to blame for "Free Speech Zones"
27 Jul 2004
-- "Allow me to paraphrase Abraham Ribicoff, ever slightly: With John Kerry as President of the United States, we wouldn't have Gestapo tactics in the streets of Boston."

"obviously you weren't present at the DNC in L.A."

Or the DNC in 1968 or the DNC in 1996. You should have seen what they did to activists in 1996.
Re: DNC not to blame for "Free Speech Zones"
27 Jul 2004
BS ... the DNC negotiates with the city (and its Democratic mayor) about what they want to happen. With no other evidence, I'd have to say the DNC got just what they wanted. Evidence that they didn't would be DNC members speaking loudly that they think its wrong for protestors to be treated this way. All I hear is silence. The DNC got just what they want.

And, what has the Democratic Party ever done to give anyone the idea they support alternative or even progressive voices? The entire Democratic primary system was rigged to make sure a grassroots campaign was certain to fail.
Re: DNC not to blame for "Free Speech Zones"
28 Jul 2004
i'm sure the dems are psyched that people are too scared to come out to protest them. and the dems support the country's gradual slide into a police state.
Re: DNC not to blame for "Free Speech Zones"
28 Jul 2004
This is crap. All that is needed to get rid of that prison is for the DNC, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, or Thomas Menino(all democrats) to make a couple of phone calls. That's it.

Screw the dems. I'm voting Badnarik.