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Video of "Bloodbath" at Roslindale Military Recruiting Center
22 Mar 2005
Modified: 11:01:06 PM
Video of the "Bloodbath" Action Against Military Recruiters in Roslindale on MAR 19th 2005.

See this link for photos and full story:
http://boston.indymedia.org/feature/display/34004
Video 3min (11.1 mb - Quicktime)
See also:
http://www.capedmaskedandarmed.com

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Re: Video of "Bloodbath" at Roslindale Military Recruiting Center
22 Mar 2005
bravo!
Re: Video of "Bloodbath" at Roslindale Military Recruiting Center
23 Mar 2005
that's so freaking beautiful that I want to cry...
Re: Video of "Bloodbath" at Roslindale Military Recruiting Center
23 Mar 2005
Excellent work. Solidarity and Encouragement.
Re: Roslindale Military Recruiting Center
26 Mar 2005
The revolution will not be televised ... It will be on the web at: capedmaskedandarmed.com!
Re: Video of "Bloodbath" at Roslindale Military Recruiting Center
29 Mar 2005
I am a lieutenant in the National Guard and I am totally disgraced by the war that Bush and his office have engaged in. I took an oath to protect and serve this nation, not to be a mercenary for Bush. Awesome job on the portrayal of what is going on over there.
Re: Video of "Bloodbath" at Roslindale Military Recruiting Center
30 Mar 2005
I have been trying for days to watch this. Apparently some people can watch it, but it says that the website is either currently down or unavailable.

I truly hope that it has not been blocked from me. Is there another link to the movie? or is comcast censoring where I go?
Re: Video of "Bloodbath" at Roslindale Military Recruiting Center
30 Mar 2005
Hey jpentz,

try http://boston.indymedia.org/usermedia/video/7/1_recruiter_action.mov

Hope it works.

Bravo.

I also want to say to the soldiers and troops, past and present, these actions are also because we DO care about you. We support you, just not the war.

A little something I wrote not long ago:

Tears in my eyes
Tears in my heart
So many families
Torn apart

Flagged covered coffins
Families that weep
Are prayers enough
For your safety to keep

If I had but one wish
It would not be for wealth
I'd wish for all war to stop
And you to return home in good health

Love from the Hippy Girl.

Peace
Re: Video of "Bloodbath" at Roslindale Military Recruiting Center
30 Mar 2005
Hey jpentz,

try http://boston.indymedia.org/usermedia/video/7/1_recruiter_action.mov

Hope it works.

Bravo.

I also want to say to the soldiers and troops, past and present, these actions are also because we DO care about you. We support you, just not the war.

A little something I wrote not long ago:

Tears in my eyes
Tears in my heart
So many families
Torn apart

Flagged covered coffins
Families that weep
Are prayers enough
For your safety to keep

If I had but one wish
It would not be for wealth
I'd wish for all war to stop
And you to return home in good health

Love from the Hippy Girl.

Peace
Re: Video of "Bloodbath" at Roslindale Military Recruiting Center
30 Mar 2005
No, all i get is a Quicktime symbol that looks as though it is ripped in two. :(

Someone else at the Velvet Revolution site, http://velvetrevolution.us tried and cannot view it either

I really hope this is not being blocked. Can anyone save the file and email me?

donotconcede2 (at) comcast.net
Re: Video of "Bloodbath" at Roslindale Military Recruiting Center
30 Mar 2005
"...The war crimes and chemical weapons of Saddam Hussein were the subject of a talk given by U.S. War Crimes Ambassador David J. Scheffer at the National Press Club. Scheffer, on September 18, 2000, when he was working for a Democrat President Bill Clinton. Scheffer, listed 8 specific incidents of war crimes to illustrate what he called “the magnitude” of Saddam Hussein’s “criminal record.” Scheffer said that Hussein’s “criminal record” goes to the “very heart of why his conduct deserves an international response.” The eight points of evidence Scheffer listed were:

1. The Iran-Iraq War in which approximately 5,000 Iranians were killed with chemical weapons between 1983-1988, plus the several thousand Iranian prisoners of war killed by Hussein. (In the “legal” part of the war between these two powerful Muslim nations, 200,000 Iraqis died and over 300,000 Iranians died. They are not counted in Scheffer’s report on war crimes.)
2. The dropping of chemical weapons on the Kurdish city of Halaja in Iraq in March of 1988 that killed over 5,000 civilians. The U.S. government has satellite photos of the carnage. The Kurds have since reported that five to seven thousand people of 80,000 inhabitants died immediately and a further 20,000 to 30,000 were injured, many severely. Initial studies indicate approximately 52% of current inhabitants were exposed at the time of the chemical warhead attack on Halaja.
3. The Anfal campaigns, also against the Kurds, when Chemical Ali, Hussein’s cousin, was given the orders to slaughter the Kurds. Somewhere between 50,000 and 100,000 Kurds were killed. Scheffer called it genocide.
4. The invasion and occupation of Kuwait on August 2, 1990 in which Saddam Hussein’s forces killed more than 1000 Kuwaiti nationals, and an uncounted number from other nations while launching the environmental crime “such as the destruction of oil wells in Kuwait’s oil fields. War crimes also were committed against other nationals in an “effort to coerce their governments into pro-Iraqi policies.”
5. In 1991, when the United Nations failed to approve the actual removal of Saddam Hussein from power, from 30,000 to 60,000 Iraqi civilians, mostly Kurds and Shiites were killed.
6. In the early 1990s, Saddam Hussein drained the southern marshes, which deprived over 100,000 people of their livelihood and their ability to live on land their ancestors had lived on for thousands of years.
7. The ethnic cleansing of Persians and other non-Arabs from Iraq,
8. The killing, torturing and raping of political opponents and their wives and daughters and the disappearance of 300,000 people, the remains of many of whom have been found in mass graves following Iraq’s liberation in 2003.

Iraq, a country approximately the size of California, but with only 2/3rd its population, suffered more than a million violent deaths under Saddam Hussein’s regime. That would average out at about 50,000 deaths a year in a population of 25 million before the Americans got involved. In the two years since the Americans have been fighting in Iraq, 13,650 Iraqis, have been killed, many of them by terrorist attacks by their own countrymen. Others were by military action. That averages out at 6, 825 deaths per year in a population of 25 million.

So, the mostly American liberation of Iraq dropped the rate of violent deaths from 50,000 a year under Saddam Hussein to 6,825 a year with the Americans in Baghdad. What Kennedy has labeled as American “savagery” has REDUCED deaths from violence in Iraq by 87%.

Not bad for a quagmire."
(from an article by Mary Mostert entitled "87% Fewer Deaths Annually in Iraq")

And you're saying that we should have never gotten involved and pull-out?

selfish.
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30 Mar 2005
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Re: Video of "Bloodbath" at Roslindale Military Recruiting Center
30 Mar 2005
I am so inspired by this. Who are these people and how can I help?
Re: Video of "Bloodbath" at Roslindale Military Recruiting Center
30 Mar 2005
I am so inspired by this. Who are these people and how can I help?
Re: Video of "Bloodbath" at Roslindale Military Recruiting Center
30 Mar 2005
well, i guess something is blocking me from viewing this. :( I cannot view any copy of it
Re: Video of "Bloodbath" at Roslindale Military Recruiting Center
30 Mar 2005
Each day my heart aches more and more for the people of Iraq and the people of America. Thank you for your effort. Never Surrender.
Re: Video of "Bloodbath" at Roslindale Military Recruiting Center
31 Mar 2005
Beautiful, magnificent, breathtaking! Amazing amazing production! Should be nominated for Grammy! I wish we could deport all the trigger happy rednecks including Bush to Iraq and let them "support our troops to the full extent".
Re: Video of "Bloodbath" at Roslindale Military Recruiting Center
09 Apr 2005
where can i download the Video & Song as there both excellent. The recruiters are poisining americans mind with false hopes and dreams.
Re: Video of "Bloodbath" at Roslindale Military Recruiting Center
21 Apr 2005
I only watch these kind of things to remind me of why I do fight. I fight for the freedom of everyone, wheter or not they deserve it, to be able to do things like this. People say they support the troops. Hmmm....I think this shows that these people, at least, do not. How can you support troops but do that outside a recruiters office where people who want to become soldiers go to join. I've heard all the things people who "Support the troops" say. I volunteered to go back. Does this mean my family will have people doing a scene like this outside my home. I hope not for their sake because in my neighborhood people really do support what we do. I'm not trying to be a troll but reading 2 specific posts on here made me want to. I'll leave which 2 alone but will address one person.

The so-called Lieutenant for the National Guard. As you can see I do not put my branch or rank in my whole post. The reason is that as soldiers, sailors, airmen, or Marines the military does not take sides on any issues. We do as we are told and follow orders. A person can, however, be opposed to an issue but by REGULATIONS you do not associate the military with it if it shows favor toward one thing or another. The military has an official neutral opinion on these sorts of things. I said so-called Lieutenant because every officer, NCO, and enlisted knows this. If you feel this way, resign your commision like many others have done and then voice your opinion as a FORMER Army officer.

I'm sure this post will be deleted as many people who own sites like this call others a troll if they do not agree with everyone else in the same message area yet still state their opinion. So I guess I'll leave it at this and check back later.
Re: Video of "Bloodbath" at Roslindale Military Recruiting Center
21 Apr 2005
Oh and I forgot to add. This is also why I hate coming home to the US and volunteered to go back in the first place. No one except those who have been there truly understand true comradery, loyalty, pride, and patriotism. Since I was first in Iraq, when I came home I was faced with people who did similar things as in the video. For some reason for "supporting the Troops" they sure said and did several things that I wont mention on here because of my parent's raising. I know not all people are like this. I do truly appreciate those who do support us to the fullest extent even if they oppose the fight. Again this is why I joined in the first place. To make sure that as long as I live Americans will always have this kind of freedom even though I personally dont like it. If I have offended anyone I do appologize and I hope you understand that I am merely starting my opinion on the video and obviously a few other points. Just FYI, while writting this I am not angry, irritated or any of the like. This was written with a cool head and trying to leave it open for understanding of where I come from.
Greg
25 Apr 2005
Hey genius you are not in Iraq to protect your country, the USA. You are there to conquer. Things don't happen by accident. This war was planned long before 9/11.

"Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy."
-- Henry A. Kissinger
Re: Video of "Bloodbath" at Roslindale Military Recruiting Center
26 Apr 2005
First off not once did I say I was there to protect the US. The only thing close to that is when I stated, "I fight for the freedom of everyone, wheter or not they deserve it,". I've justified my reasons for going there in my own way. Bush had made some valid points for us going in but the only one people seem to focus on was the whole WMD thing. That was not the only reason, contrary to popular belief. Whats funny is not once, EVER, has bush said that WMDs were the only reason for going into Iraq. There were actually 4 seperate issues as to the, for a lack of a better term, invasion. I would get into this debate more but that is something for another thread at a different location but I do encourage people to look into speeches and articles from back ten and read what those reasons were and still make up your own mind. I already have.

Secondly, I never knew I was there to conquer anything. If I had been there to conquer rather than take out a dictator that was killing his own people, and disobeying 2 UN resolutions then I would have been shooting everyone who carried or even owned a gun. But you know what, I never once fired my weapon at anyone. There were times I could have and been right to do so. I did not for various reasons and I'm glad I never had. I, personally, have seen too many dead and wounded on both sides to ever say that we are conquerers. I know that sounds weird but I cant really verbalize what is in my head. Youd really have to be me to get it. Mayeb eventually I can express it better.

If this was planned long before 9/11, why did it take till 3/19/03 to kick off? Please enlighten me because it sounds like you must know because you had to have been in the pentagon and white house while they were talking about it.

I'm actually glad you did get one statement correct, things dont happen by accident. I guess that means there is a reason for all of this. Now the question becomes, for everyone who is opposed to the war, Bush, or whatever else, how are you going to change it? The simplest way already exists. VOTE. Elections are held for a reason. To get your ideals out. Laws and bills are also put out to the public to vote on prior to Congress doing its thing. The problem is that people dont go out and voice their opinion on it, so Congress, our elected representatives, have to make the desision on what they think is best. So if you are opposed to this stuff, all it take is a majority vote to stop it, change Presidents, or whatever else. It would be a very hard battle though because in many polls that have been done by many agencies, this Anti-War, and Anti-Bush stuff is currently in the minority although it is gaining on the rest of us.

I am the kind of person, however, that if the majority of the people of this country want a change, vote on it, and get it passed, I will follow it without question because that it what I do. I believe in the laws and statutes of this country. I also believe in the greater good of it all. In that I mean if the people, as a majority, believe things need to be a certainway, than based on our laws, Constitution, and all that other federal stuff, than if thats what the American people want, thants what they get. But it does take a majority, not a few who want a change and the ignorant college students who really have no clue why they are protesting except to make the news and because other people are doing it and they are trying to be an antagonist.

"Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy."
-- Henry A. Kissinger
....But we still Support the Troops. *sigh* Thank you for proving my point from the previous posts.
Re: Video of "Bloodbath" at Roslindale Military Recruiting Center
17 May 2005
Very tasteless, and it could have been 100% better.
Re: Video of "Bloodbath" at Roslindale Military Recruiting Center
20 May 2005
Oh Our Lord! What the terrorist America and her allies do to humanity! When the world will be ended at the dirty hand of those so-called democratic oppressors! We strongly condemn all events done by terrorist USA,Israel and their alies in all over the world.This short movie shows only the smallest part of the ice mountains.Do not we know? Of course the world really know who is the realy enemy of humanity.
www.electronicintifada.net
www.alkhilafah.info
www.mediamonitors.net
www.theunjustmedia.com