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Local account of today's nazi foolishness
08 May 2005
Some good photos and amusing reflections from a local blogger:

http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/dowbrigade/2005/05/08#a5026

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Re: Local account of today's nazi foolishness
08 May 2005
This guy's analysis of anarchists is messed up.
Re: Local account of today's nazi foolishness
08 May 2005
anyone have any better accounts of today's festivities?
Re: Local account of today's nazi foolishness
08 May 2005
interesting photos, the account of some one who "went to watch the cirus" isn't very interesting though.

bet a dollar the WR complain about the cops who were there solely to save their asses...

Now I don't care how scrawny the 16yo anarchists were at 1000:15 they'd be stains...
Re: Local account of today's nazi foolishness
08 May 2005
word to becca, since when did physical build have anything to do with politcal legitimacy?
Re: Local account of today's nazi foolishness
08 May 2005
big amen to what mike said. the pictures are really good, but the comments are way lame. what you didn't notice was that other anarchists there (like myself) were not masked up or wearing black, nor scrawny.
Re: Local account of today's nazi foolishness
08 May 2005
Racist hate groups should always be confronted when they gather. I am glad the Nazis were confronted. I hope all these folks will remember this fact when the white supremacists gather later this summer to celebrate the genocide of Palestinians.

"Never Again" is what all people of conscience should be standing for.

"Never Again for Anyone", and that includes Palestinians.

Hatred, bigotry and white-supremacy come in many forms and Zionism is definitely one of them. One which continues to thrive. One that is *currently still actively engaged in genocide* against Palestinians. One which our government heavily funds with our tax dollars.

Of course, there are many other examples. Parades for Thanksgiving, Columbus Day and Memorial Day are other examples of assembling around hate that people who confront Nazis for their racism should also be confronting - assuming that non-white victims matter, of course. And assuming we are ready to stand against hate groups whether or not their ideological leadership has a nuclear armed state behind them or not.
expanding the vision of antifa work
09 May 2005
word to that. it would be cool to see an anarchist/antifa solidarity contingent at the nat'l day of mourning in plymouth this thanksgiving, for instance. nyc anarchists marched in an anti-imperialist contingent with the st. pat's for all (queer-positive st. patricks parade in queens) this march behind a banner reading "u.s. out of iraq, u.k. out of ireland"
Re: Local account of today's nazi foolishness
09 May 2005
" Racist hate groups should always be confronted when they gather."

So why were zionists not protested?
Re: Local account of today's nazi foolishness
09 May 2005
Because it wasn't a zionist event, you bastard, it was a Holocaust memorial.
Re: Local account of today's nazi foolishness
09 May 2005
Because it wasn't a zionist event, you bastard, it was a Holocaust memorial.

Norman Finkelstein says the two are the same. The Holocaust Industry supports Zionism.

80%
Re: Local account of today's nazi foolishness
09 May 2005
Way to sound like Billy Roper.
Re: Local account of today's nazi foolishness
09 May 2005
well out of all the jews and israelis I know I can think of two who by some stretches of the imagination might be called zionists, but only very loosely.

So thats somewhat less than 10%, perhaps all these zionists live in Arkansas?
Re: Local account of today's nazi foolishness
09 May 2005
http://germany.indymedia.org/2005/05/115694.shtml


http://germany.indymedia.org/2005/05/115721.shtml

Well dont to all those people who went out show nazi scum can never come out in public. Solidarity!
Good Job
09 May 2005
Wow, an article featured on Indymedia that is actually not bias...Question to the anarchists, socialists, commies, and other assorted freaks ? How long did it take you to put down the anti nazi signs and pick up your pro palestinian signs after Roper and his crew left ?
Re: Local account of today's nazi foolishness
09 May 2005
Not nearly as quickly as those chickenshit nazis got escourted out by the police with their tails between their legs.
Re: Local account of today's nazi foolishness
09 May 2005
Not sure which nazi demo this blog author was at, but with the exception of 3-4 of the nazis with some meat on them, the White Revolution crew looked pretty meek to me. Mostly scrawny teenagers, and a few middle aged social rejects. Being escourted around like little children by the pigs didn't help their tough guy image any.
Re: Local account of today's nazi foolishness
09 May 2005
I second that, I was expected that the creeps would atleast hit the gym every few years.
Re: Local account of today's nazi foolishness
09 May 2005
I am surprised to hear of that of all the jews someone knows only two are zionists, I feel there are hardly two jews I know who are not zionists. I think our definition of zionism maybe different, anyone who thinks that the illegal colonial settlement of apartheid israel has a right to exist as a jewish only state is a zionist in my analysis.

On temple israel in the longwood medical area a big prominent sign reads, we support israel in her quest for peace, no one ever protests this blatant display of racism, who really thinks israel is involved a quest for peace? the sign basically should be read, we support israel in its apartheid nature. every year in boston there is a israel independence day celebration which basically celebrates the genocide of palestinian day, much like columbus day that is still celebrated in boston, where is the outrage then?
Re: Local account of today's nazi foolishness
09 May 2005
Eric is damn too scrawny. Quit lying.
Re: Local account of today's nazi foolishness
09 May 2005
Seriously. Say what you will about anarchists being scrawny masked teenagers, but I have never seen them stoop to the level of cowardness it requires to arrange for a police escourt. On the other hand we have a bunch of big, bad nazis looking to kick the Jews and immigrants out of the USA... and they can't even show their scared little faces in public without making sure the cops are their to hold their hands. Sorry kiddies, but if your gonna touch off a race war, you might need to first actually take a stand and defend yourselves in public, and not hide behind the forces of the State.
Re: Local account of today's nazi foolishness
09 May 2005
can someone else write an article about what happened? I hate bloggers like this. I saw the coverage on some local TV and it looked great!! I have a jewish friend that thinks im a lunatic and terrorist for being an anarchist, but when he saw that the anarchists and other "lefties" were there against the Nazis he seemed kind of shocked and said he respected us more now.
Re: Local account of today's nazi foolishness
09 May 2005
wow. what a pathetic article.
Re: Local account of today's nazi foolishness
09 May 2005
"potpourri of radical crackpots" . . . ?
Re: Local account of today's nazi foolishness
10 May 2005
Commentary by a person of color:

Liberals, Free Speech, And Those Arkansas Nazis

Politics makes strange bedfellows.




It’s not often that one has to temporarily side with racists in order to make the case for liberal hypocrisy regarding what they consider hate speech and their soft reasoning for denying someone else their right to free speech.




Please bear with me while I set this (and liberals) up, again.




An Arkansas-based white supremacist group plans to protest a Holocaust remembrance event Sunday at Faneuil Hall and appear in nearby communities, prompting security preparations by officials in Lexington and Somerville, as well as in Boston, authorities confirmed yesterday.

''This white supremacist group has no business being in Boston," said Mayor Thomas M. Menino. ''They should go home and let us have a service to commemorate the individuals who gave their life in the Holocaust. They have no place in Boston or anywhere in this world."

Boston Globe, May 6, 2005




Now while what Mumbles Menino said may be true, I find it ironic that the same liberals who champion free speech are so thin-skinned that they will stop at nothing to deny someone else theirs. We may be talking about Arkansas Nazis here, but until that is an offense that can result in loss of citizenship, they must be given the same American rights of protest as Act Up or any of the anti-war groups who carried signs through the streets calling our president a Nazi, war criminal, terrorist, Hitler, Bushshit, and the like.




How many times has the left produced people like University of Colorado professor Ward Churchill who wrote after 9/11 that the people in the World Trade Center who, in some cases were incinerated or crushed to death in the imploding buildings, were "little Eichmanns" that had it coming. Nazi bureaucrat Adolf Eichmann, was a chief facilitator of “Hitler's Final Solution” leading to the execution of millions of Jews in concentration camps.




White Revolution's chairman, Billy Roper, said in a telephone interview last night that he and another group member from Arkansas plan to connect with supporters from New England this weekend. He said he hopes to draw about 100 people to protest near the Holocaust memorial for two to three hours Sunday afternoon despite not having a permit as the city requires for protests.




"One doesn't need a permit to practice the First Amendment," Roper said.

Boston Globe, May 6, 2005




Roper was hoping for a hundred; fifteen showed up. Oops.




As I previously said in one of my radio rants, while Churchill does have the right, within reason, to say whatever he wants, his paper should meet the modern definition of “hate speech.” I mean, c’mon, if someone said that doctors burning to death in an abortion clinic had it coming, the appropriate shit would hit the fan.




But since he’s an ultra-liberal tenured college professor bashing Jews, his words must never be silenced as political correctness only targets offenders as defined by liberals. Since college campii are supposedly places where all ideas are embraced (college conservatives and guest lecturers would disagree), speech no matter how controversial must be allowed.




That is unless your name is Ann Coulter, David Horowitz, Larry Summers, Michelle Malkin, or any number of people whose views differ with the “progressive” mindset of professors and those with whom they indoctrinate through the power of their positions of authority. Those speakers are encouraged to be heckled and even potential assault is revered.




We also have college professors, many American and from the Middle East who are openly pro-Palestinian (thus anti-Israel), who consistently make anti-Semitic statements on campus and their speech is proudly protected. With that, I find it extremely ironic that a protest of, what turned out to be, 15 skinheads would bring out a hundred or more protesters and hundreds of Boston Police tasked with keeping them off of Arkansas’ finest.




Ten to 15 members of the Arkansas-based White Revolution arrived in downtown Boston about an hour after the start of the event to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the liberation of Nazi concentration camps and the 10th anniversary of the New England Holocaust Memorial in Boston.

The group was escorted by hundreds of police officers on foot, motorcycle and horseback, to a holding area across from the event.

The officers, many in riot gear, formed a barricade between the protesters and about 100 people who angrily shouted at them to leave Boston.

"Today of all days, to have white supremacists come here from Arkansas, is most disappointing, disgusting, and I wish they'd go back home where the came from and bury themselves under the rocks that they crawled out from," said Gov. Mitt Romney, who attended the Faneuil Hall event.

Boston Globe, May 8, 2005




Now while Mitt Romney should watch to whom he tells to bury themselves under the rocks that they crawled out from, from all television reports that I saw, the ceremony within Faneuil Hall went on completely undisturbed by the events outside.




No one shouted down any of the speakers inside, no one ran onto the stage and threw pies at the speakers. The event within the hall was given the respect it deserved. Funny, these same free speech liberals show none of that kind of respect to those they disagree with, yet they DEMAND their opinions be heard undisturbed.




At one point, the crowd opposing the white supremacists surged forward, causing police to use their batons to keep them at bay.

Boston Globe, May 8, 2005




These very same people who constantly preach non-violence were the ones who prompted the police into action. While brave male liberals will storm a stage and hurl pies at an Ann Coulter who must weigh all of 95 pounds, it took hundreds to make fifteen “White Revolution” idiots look like victims who needed to be gently escorted away.




The neo-Nazis behaved and staged a peaceful protest.




The left looked like the rabid animals they call everyone they disagree with.




Free speech in liberal America is a myth. What else is new….
Re: Local account of today's nazi foolishness
10 May 2005
"These very same people who constantly preach non-violence were the ones who prompted the police into action."

Non-violence? I don't think we are the "very same people" you think we are. Some of us anyways.
Re: Local account of today's nazi foolishness
10 May 2005
Rain:
You're quoting from MSM, that doesn't give you much credibility with third-party types.

Everyone else:
For the record, I'm Jewish, anti-Zionist, communist and anarchist.

I also happen to know a little more about my people's history than your average Israel-supporting, SUV-driving Boston Jewish liberal. There is nothing in Jewish history to lend support to an anti-Islamic sentiment. Historically, Islamic societies have been welcoming of Jews while Christians persecuted, forcibly converted, and expelled the Jews repeatedly. Don't take my word on it, go read a book or two.

Israel is a neo-fascist state masquerading as a democracy, just like America.
Re: Local account of today's nazi foolishness
11 May 2005
What I don't understand is why Zionists don't practice Aliyah and emigrate back to Israel? Most of them have the economic means to do so. If all they want is self-determination, that would be the logical route to take.

Mad props to jewish persons who are not Zionists.
Re: Local account of today's nazi foolishness
11 May 2005
On the nazi message board http://www.stormfront.org, do a search under the word "Somerville' and you can read their thread on the last weekend. Sick puppies.
Re: Local account of today's nazi foolishness
11 May 2005
Thanks for pointing out the obvious. You may disagree with the Nazis, as most people do. However, you support their right to free speech, as disgusting as you find their beliefs. I would rather have an honest liberal in office than a conservative any day, even a liberal of color.