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Bedtime for Democracy in Boston: "A fuckin' Brawl" |
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by jatek Email: jatek (nospam) mindspring.com (unverified!) |
04 Oct 2000
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What happened on O3: Bedtime for Democracy in Boston, the short story. |
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Agreed |
by alex Autolycus124 (nospam) yahoo.com (unverified) |
05 Oct 2000
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I agree 100% that the environment is going down the toilet and corporations and government are doing nothing to stop it. In fact, they're making the problem much worse. Bush wants to drill for oil in nature preserves, and claims he can leave nothing but foot prints. Rubbish, oil drilling is one of the messiest industries out there. |
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core issue, IMHO |
by Adam (No verified email address) |
05 Oct 2000
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I'd like to add that its not a "shrinking of corporate power" that's needed but an end to it all together - an end to capitalism/imperialism. There is no such thing as a kinder, gentler capitalism. |
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What I saw at UMass. |
by Craven Moorehead cravenmoorehead71 (nospam) hotmail.com (unverified) |
06 Oct 2000
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I have to say that I was truly inspired by the showing we made at the Great Corporate Ripoff at UMass-Boston. Although the mainstream media did not give us the coverage we could have hoped for (what a surprise), we certainly made some noise. However, I was truly disappointed in the behavior of many of those present. I attended in the spirit of peaceful protest in hopes of making our show of support for Ralph Nader known.
What I saw was appalling. How can we criticize the police when it is obvious that their actions were merely a reaction to attacks launched against them? C'mon people. I'll be the first person to pick up the standard of protest and resistance against an unjust political system, but how can we condone violent physical attacks on fellow human beings? The way I saw it, members of the protest contingent attacked the police with sticks and hurled missiles. Prior to this, the police were merely standing in front of us, maintaining stationary positions. These are HUMAN BEINGS! They did not draw first blood. And unlike all of us, most of these people were there involuntarily. These are the people who will pull you out of a burning car on the side of the highway, with no regard for their personal safety, and with little expectation of thanks. We need to get it together and attack the political system that manipulates these pawns; not the working men and women themselves.
That's why we never seem to get anywhere with these protests (except gassed and arrested). If we behave like animals, we will be treated as such. We need to address these bureaucratic pigs on a more dignified level. I'm not saying their level (that obviously doesn't work). I'm saying that we need an approach that doesn't leave us looking like a bunch of freaks, losers and criminals. As it stands, the Green Party and Free Mumia concerns came off looking like a disorganized collection of disaffected upper middle class kids who don't like their parents. Let's get it together, people. For Ralph's sake.
In solidarity,
Craven |
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What I saw at UMass. |
by Craven Moorehead cravenmoorehead71 (nospam) hotmail.com (unverified) |
06 Oct 2000
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I have to say that I was truly inspired by the showing we made at the Great Corporate Ripoff at UMass-Boston. Although the mainstream media did not give us the coverage we could have hoped for (what a surprise), we certainly made some noise. However, I was truly disappointed in the behavior of many of those present. I attended in the spirit of peaceful protest in hopes of making our show of support for Ralph Nader known.
What I saw was appalling. How can we criticize the police when it is obvious that their actions were merely a reaction to attacks launched against them? C'mon people. I'll be the first person to pick up the standard of protest and resistance against an unjust political system, but how can we condone violent physical attacks on fellow human beings? The way I saw it, members of the protest contingent attacked the police with sticks and hurled missiles. Prior to this, the police were merely standing in front of us, maintaining stationary positions. These are HUMAN BEINGS! They did not draw first blood. And unlike all of us, most of these people were there involuntarily. These are the people who will pull you out of a burning car on the side of the highway, with no regard for their personal safety, and with little expectation of thanks. We need to get it together and attack the political system that manipulates these pawns; not the working men and women themselves.
That's why we never seem to get anywhere with these protests (except gassed and arrested). If we behave like animals, we will be treated as such. We need to address these bureaucratic pigs on a more dignified level. I'm not saying their level (that obviously doesn't work). I'm saying that we need an approach that doesn't leave us looking like a bunch of freaks, losers and criminals. As it stands, the Green Party and Free Mumia concerns came off looking like a disorganized collection of disaffected upper middle class kids who don't like their parents. Let's get it together, people. For Ralph's sake.
In solidarity,
Craven |
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big government or people |
by Jesse unruh4828 (nospam) home.com (unverified) |
06 Oct 2000
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Gore wants big government. Bush said he supports people. However, Bush only seems to support people who's morality is equal to his. He dosen't trust people to choose what music they listen to, what movies they watch. He doesn't trust people on abortion either. He, like Gore, whats control and censorship on what people watch. They are both lie on so many issues. But it seems that Bush has a problem with anyone who isn't conservative and christian. |
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boston protest |
by naderite naderite (nospam) goplay.com (unverified) |
06 Oct 2000
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Hey I read your article about the boston protest and it was excellent. yes there was a lot of passion in the debates and for the most part peaceful. I was one of the people who were attacked with the horses, batons, and was even arrested. we protested in a non violent fashion. the papers made it seem like it was an out of control protest but it was not. most of the cops, in their defense, were fair. of course you had those who were looking for blood. the use of horses was awful. it is an outrage that no one is paying attention. we need to get ralph nader's name out there. we need more voices heard. I know for a fact that there were over 30 people arrested and I heard on tv that supposedly over 50 were arrested. Of course the newspapers don't want you to hear that. Keep spreading the word! |
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Right the **** on! |
by Miguel Francis miguelfrancis (nospam) rcsis.com (unverified) |
09 Oct 2000
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All those people at the protests ******* rock! I wish I could go to one of those but I live in a stinking suburb in California. |
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I disagree |
by MentalyDefraged jkjlha (nospam) hotmail.com (unverified) |
11 Oct 2000
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I dont believe that ridding ourselves of capitalism is the amswer at all. Let us recall the enlightening teachings of Karl Marx in that capitalism is only a transition to a socially utopian society. WE need not destroy so abrubtly what WE(more than many will admit to) build our lives around. From the groceries WE eat to the clothes WE wear it is an element of capitalism. Destroying that would only allow another tyranical system to be placed over the rubble of the old while WE lie extremely vulnerable. WE are in need of a kindler gentler capitalism and if you do not belive in that, you are a very ignorant person. Capitalism needs shackles attached to its boney, pale ankles to stop the ever continung ecological damage. Establishing a more equal tax to citizens; and I mean every one, investigation is needed to thwart the merging of large corporations into monopolistic conglomerates, the private business sector needs to be made public, every worker regardless of labor duties in these copanies should be given an equal share;includng ceo's, the president, chairmen, all the way to the mid-night janitor. WE must shake the base of greedy capitalists while grabbing the political con-men at the same time. It is not destroy one gain the other. |