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Commentary :: Human Rights : International : Race
When There Was No Jewish Lobby
21 Apr 2006
Today a new, soon to be nuclear armed Islamic Hitler rises in the East and again threatens the annihilation of the Jewish people.
Four weeks after the publication of “The Israel Lobby,” the error-ridden paper authored by professors Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer, the controversy still swirls in the media. Despite the hundreds of thousands of angry words about the authors’ thesis that the nefarious “lobby” has too much power and undermines America’s true interests, there’s one fundamental question that has been ignored. What if Walt and Mearsheimer and their allies actually had their way? What would happen if there was no Israel lobby in America?

The lobby is not likely to fold its tents anytime soon, so there’s no way of answering that question definitively. However, we do have suggestive clues from at least one sad period in American history. I am speaking, of course, of the Hitler era, 1935-1945, when there was no powerful political lobby in the United States representing Jewish “parochial” interests. These were the years when millions of European Jews were desperately trying to flee the charnel house on the continent and the Jews of America were too weak, or too intimidated, or too assimilationist and anti-Zionist to effectively petition their government to extend a helping hand.

The tragic consequences of Jewish political impotence before and during World War II have been thoroughly documented by David S. Wyman, Laurell Leff and other highly regarded historians. In the absence of a Jewish lobby wielding influence in Washington DC and on the media an out and out anti-Semite named Breckinridge Long was able to control US policy on refugees from within the State Department. As anti-Jewish persecution mounted in Germany in the late 1930s, Long made sure that no more than a trickle of European Jews found safe haven in the United States. Then, even after the Final Solution became public knowledge, Long became the principle advocate within the administration arguing against any special efforts to rescue Jews. A Treasury Department official described Long and his State Department colleagues as an “underground movement [within the administration] to let the Jews be killed.”

In their paper Professors Walt and Mearsheimer make the bizarre claim that the New York Times and Washington Post are unduly influenced by today’s powerful Israel lobby. I assume they would have been more impressed with the realistic, unemotional approach to the national interest by the nation’s two leading newspapers during World War II. On November 24, 1942 the US government publicly confirmed for the first time that the Nazis had a plan to exterminate all of European Jewry and that more than two million Jews had already been murdered. This was the biggest mass murder story in history, but the Washington Post and the New York Times, both owned by Jewish families, virtually snubbed the massacre. The Post gave the revelations all of four inches on page six. The New York Times buried the story even deeper. Nor was this a one time lapse in news judgment. Neither paper assigned reporters to cover the ongoing extermination of the Jewish people over the next two and a half years. New York Times publisher Arthur Hays Suzberger regarded Zionism as a chauvinist movement and blanched at any political activity focusing on the Jews as a collectivity. Thus his paper gave less play to the Holocaust than to Tammany Hall or holiday crowds on Fifth Avenue.

The Post’s owner, Eugene Meyer, was also in flight from his Jewish identity. Despite urging from some Jewish leaders, he declined to run an editorial on the plight of the Jews of Europe. No self interested Jewish lobby for Meyer. He once wrote, “I do not feel it is necessary for any pressure group, however well meaning, to devote its time and money to the business of ‘molding American opinion’on this subject” [i.e. the destruction of European Jewry.]

No doubt professors Walt and Mearsheimer would also have been more approving of the sense of political decorum and restraint exhibited by the unofficial leader of the American Jewish community at the time, Rabbi Stephen Wise of Temple Emmanuel on New York’s Fifth Avenue. Rabbi Wise did care about the plight of his fellow Jews trapped under the Nazi yoke, and he often spoke out on the issue, but he never allowed those concerns to move him to create anything so self serving as a “Jewish lobby.” Besides, Wise wasn’t going to do anything to embarrass his good friend and political hero, President Roosevelt. Partly as a result of Rabbi Wise’s abdication, there was little political pressure on the president to consider extraordinary measures to rescue Jews, including proposals to bomb the railroad tracks leading to Auschwitz.

What finally moved Roosevelt to some action on rescue was the creation of a fledgling and unofficial “lobby” called the “Emergency Committee to Save the Jewish People of Europe.” The driving force behind the new, non sectarian group was a 30 year old Palestinian Jew named Peter Bergson. He had arrived in America as part of an Irgun delegation to do Zionist political work, but he put this mission aside and went to work full time on rousing public opinion about the extermination. It was only because of the intense public lobbying activity of Bergson’s committee – a forerunner of today’s Israel lobby – that President Roosevelt finally came around, late in the war, to the idea of creating a special agency within the government, to try to rescue Jews facing deportation to the death camps. It was called the War Refugee Board. Although too little and too late, the Board did save lives -- perhaps as many as 200,000 -- in the waning days of the war.

Those survivors and their children and their grandchildren are living testaments to the good that can come from a political lobby pressuring a democratic government to live up to its moral commitment to rescue the oppressed, to defend the defenseless and to remain faithful to its democratic allies. Today a new, soon to be nuclear armed Islamic Hitler rises in the East and again threatens the annihilation of the Jewish people. The charge that those who lobby our government to extend a helping hand to the potential victims of this new Nazism are somehow doing something un-American is not only obscene, but is itself profoundly un-American.

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Re: When There Was No Jewish Lobby
21 Apr 2006
The Zionist propagandists keep pushing the idea that the blood of palestinians coating your hands will clean the alleged blood of Jews from your hands.

Zionist lobbies are not seeking citizenship for Jews in the US, Zionists lobbies are asking for and getting US support for thier bloodsoaked war of conquest against our Palestinian neighbors. Citizenship for jews in the US is our to give, or not to give. But the Palestinian's homeland has never been our's to give to ANYBODY. And reloading the Zionist crusader's guns as fast as Zionists unload them into thier chosen victims remains an offense on the part of Democraps and Republitrash and those who vote for them. If you can't see the differance, then you are just not trying very hard.

And of course, Iran's new Hitler in the east. He said that the Zionists crusader state should be wiped from the map. Well, how can palestine be liberated from the murderous thieving Zionist crusaders if the Zionist crusaders are NOT driven out of Zionist occupied Palestine. But still we hear that Iran seeking the liberation of Palestine equates to the extermination of Jews. Sorry, but in the current intifada, over 400000 Zionists packed up and left the Zionist crusader state. It is that 400000 who have proven to the world, including Zionists, that Palestine can be liberated WITHOUT the extermination of Jews. All the Zionists have to do is end thier offensive crusade, get out of ALL of Palestine, and NEVER torment the Palestinians again. If Iran really wanted to exterminate Jews, they could start in iran where Jews live among the iranian Muslims.

In nov. of 1942, the US government confirmed Nazi plans to exterminate Jews and that 2000000 had already been killed. And just a few years ago, the US government confirmed that Saddam was buying yellowcake from Nigeria. If there had been ANY evidence of holocaust presented in the last 64 years, then the US confirmation of Nazis slaughting Jews might have ment something. But the US government spouting vacant propaganda against a country the US was already at war with is less suprizing than that the US government spouted vacant propaganda to attack Iraq BEFORE Bush's invasion.

Not that the blood of Palestinians will clean alleged blood of Jews from your hands. It might cover up what ever Jewish blood may or may not be on your hands. But clean it, never. Which is what this clown's propaganda is pushing with his loaded question of what would be the case if murdrous thieving Zionists didn't have a lobby asking demcraps and republitrash to aid the Zionist's offensive war of conquest.
Re: When There Was No Jewish Lobby
21 Apr 2006
Dear Informed Troll: Would you kindly inform us if in your expert opinion on Iranian matters if Iranian citizens of Jewish ancestry have full and equal rights. As you well know, Jews have lived in Perisia/Iran for over 2500 years.

Cordially
Re: The Jewish Lobby
21 Apr 2006
Screw the lobby. Take out the Jewish Lounge and also the rest of the hotel.
Re: When There Was No Jewish Lobby
21 Apr 2006
Full and equal rights? No, I don't believe they do under my understanding. And? Would that being the case give Zionists a birthright of murderous theft of Palestinian lands??? No, I don't believe it would. Did you have a valid point to make?

Did segaragtion laws give black Americans a birthright of murderous theft of Palestinian lands? Would it make Democrap and Republitrash support of a black invasion of Palestine any less offensive? Hey Martin Luther King Jr, you ain't equal. Why don't you be a murderous thief of Palestinian lands that Zionists haven't stolen yet? We'll even get whore politicians to finance it.

NINA used to be a popular sign at the job sights in America. It ment No Irish Need Apply. Would that have gieven Irish Americans a birthright of murderous theft of Palestinian lands. Would that have made Democrap and Republitrash support for such an invasion any less of an offense.

I assume you had a point to make. Did I just miss it or did you have no valid point to make?
Killing Jews, A Popular Past Time for Many
21 Apr 2006
Demonstrating outside the Israeli consulate in Manhattan to gloat over the suicide bombing in Tel Aviv, the Queens-based radical group calling itself the Islamic Thinkers Society (lgf: search) chanted genocidal slogans and threats of nuclear holocaust: Islamists’ message to Israel at New York City rally: “The mushroom cloud is on its way!”

Excerpts:
Leader (in Arabic): With our blood and our lives we will liberate al Aqsa!
[The rest also respond in Arabic:] With our blood and our lives we will liberate al Aqsa!
Israeli Zionists What do you say? The real Holocaust is on its way
Takbeer!
Response: Allahu Akbar!
Takbeer!
Response: Allahu Akbar!

Israeli Zionists, What do you say?
How many women have you raped today?
Israeli Zionists, What do you say?
How many children have you killed today?

Zionists, Zionists You will pay! The Wrath of Allah is on its way!
Israeli Zionists You shall pay! The Wrath of Allah is on its way!
The mushroom cloud is on its way! The real Holocaust is on its way!

We are not your average Muslims, We are the Muslims of Was al Sunnah

We will not accept the United Nations, they are the criminals themselves
They get paid by the Israeli and the US government to do their job.
We don’t recognize United Nations as a body
We only recognize Allah

Israel won’t last long ... Indeed, Allah will repeat the Holocaust right on the soil of Israel
Takbeer!
Response: Allahu Akbar!

* * *
No wonder they call you sons of apes and pigs because that’s what you are.

We know many government services are watching us
Such as the FBI ... CIA ... Mossad, Homeland Security ...
We know we are getting on their nerves
And so are you ... .
So we say the hell with you!
May the FBI burn in Hell
CIA burn in Hell
Mossad burn in Hell
Homeland Security burn in hell!!

Islam will dominate the world
Islam is the only solution
Islam will dominate the world
Islam is the only solution
Takbeer!
La ilaha il Allah, Muhammad-ur Rasool Allah

* * *
Another mushroom cloud, right in the midst of Israel!
Takbeer!! Allahu Akbar!
Re: When There Was No Jewish Lobby
21 Apr 2006
If that last bit is true, then all it shows is that a tiny fraction of a percent of Muslims get quite upset that Zionists are murderous thieves of Palestinian lands and upset that interloaper power brokers supply Zionists with the means to be murderous thieves of Palestinian lands. Well duh.

And if it was just mossad dressed up like Muslims, well that would fit thier history of false flag operations of the past.

But one thing it would not do is give the Zionists thier alleged birthright of murderous theft of Palestinian lands. And another thing it would not do is make the support that democraps and republitrash give to murderous thieving ZIonist crusaders any less of an offense.

Pat robertson and other TV preachers push for Christian dominance of the world. Guess what, that wouldn't give ZIonists a birthright of murderous theft of Catholic Costa Rica.
A new genre of jokes?
21 Apr 2006
When there was no Jewish Lobby.......
Jews used to have to wait on the sidewalk.

no, wait

When there was no Jewish Lobby.......
Jews used to go up and down in the elevator, which inspired others to speculate.

I think there's promise in this.
Re: When There Was No Jewish Lobby
22 Apr 2006
Guess what, that wouldn't give ZIonists a birthright of murderous theft of Catholic Costa Rica. and the murderous land theft invador crusador naxzi invaded POLAND and the ZIONISTS birthright made my penis small
Re: When There Was No Jewish Lobby
22 Apr 2006
Whey there was no jewish lobby arabs were allowed to sit down inside not out back in the dirt with a machine in their face.
Re: Zionists Lobbied the Nazis
22 Apr 2006
Many Zionists welcomed the rise to power of the Nazis in Germany because it meant "the end of liberalism." The end of the idea that people of different backgrounds and religions could live in the same society peacefully. The Nazis wanted the Jews out of Germany, and so did the Zionists. While the Zionists may not have forseen the Nazi "final solution" coming they lobbied with the Nazis and hoped Jews would be forced to leave Germany and go to Palastine.
Re: When There Was No Jewish Lobby
22 Apr 2006
Zionist lobbies (what would today be classified as lobbies) were oposed to Jews emigrating to the US. They wanted them to join the invasion of palestine, or for them to be cast adrift.