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May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
26 Apr 2006
May Day will mark a historical national opportunity for immigrant and labor groups to make their voices heard while pending immigration legislation in Congress. The Great American Boycott of 2006 or a “day without immigrants” is a nationwide general strike and economic boycott to protest the anti-immigrant sentiments and actions across the country. The NOHR4437 national coalition, which has its stronguest roots in Los Angeles, California, is calling for full amnesty and dignity for the millions of undocumented workers presently in the U.S.
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In Boston, local immigrant organizations have felt ambivalent about openly promoting a day-long strike without making resources and support available for those immigrants who risk losing their jobs. However, groups like the Massachusetts Immigrant and Refugee Advocacy Coalition (MIRA) are calling May 1, 2006, a day of celebration for the immigrant communities contribution to the United States, while calling for immediate action on the part of the President and Congress to support “compassionate comprehesive immigration reform.”

In Boston College, students, faculty, and student organizations created the Boston College May Day Coalition (BCMDC) in support of the nationwide movement for immigrant rights and are calling for a boycott of class or work on May 1st. In a press release signed by more than 25 groups endorsing the day of action, BCMDC declared that its platform is rooted in a desire to work for social justice and equality. “Those in the Boston College community committed to the same ideals need a coalition to express their solidarity with society’s marginalized communities. Our aim is to raise awareness among students and faculty of the immigrant rights movement. Only then will our elected officials address the unfair treatment of immigrants.”

A similar move was made by Students for a Democratic Society in Providence, RI, during their First Resolution adopted unanimously on April 23, 2006. The group rejected the anti-immigration bill HR 4437, declared their solidarity towards immigrants in this country, and called all local chapters “to join the strike and organize student walkouts, demonstrations, boycotts, and direct actions that day in solidarity with immigrant communities across America.”

At the national level, some points of unity among immigrant and labor rights coalitions include:
* No school, No work, No shopping, No selling
* Wear a white t-shirt or armband
* Join an immigrant solidarity rally in your community

Some of the local actions include (see MIRA's website for details:
http://www.miracoalition.org/issues/federal/immigration-reform3/may1):

BOSTON & CAMBRIDGE

1:00-3:30- Students at Harvard University will hold a Student WalkOut and Teach-in at Harvard Square and then march to Boston Commons.

4:00 pm- A rally has been organized by the Boston May Day Coalition (http://bostonmayday.org/) in the Boston Commons

CHELSEA

3pm- March from Central Square in East Boston to Chelsea City Hall for a rally at 4pm. Full support for the national call for a general strike- no work, no shopping, wear white. Leafleting all day at Maverick Square T stop in East Boston. Called by Chelsea Collaborative and some others. After rally, they will encourage people to go to the rally on Boston Common. 617 889 6080

SOMERVILLE

4pm- Brazilian Immigrant Center rally at Foss Park, corner of Rt. 28 and Broadway near Assembley Square Mall. Aimed at Brazilian community and supporters, with focus on keeping families together and the contribution of immigrants to this country. Wear white and observe the economic boycott. BIC is also sponsoring ads on the national Brazilian TV network to call for their community to support this nationwide boycott and day of action.

AMHERST

Amherst is holding a rally with Communities Against Hate, Amnesty Ahora, and the Five College May 1st Coalition (Amherst College, UMass College, Hampshire College, Smith College, Mount Holyoke College).

FRAMINGHAM

Framingham is carrying out a 24 hour event to include a “community's expression of their will and vigil” organized by the Metropolitan Interfaith Congregations Acting for Hope, on Sunday, April 30th, and by the Immigrant Workers Mass on May 1st.

LOWELL

In Lowell, a “Celebration of Labor” is taking place Sunday, April 30th, at the Boardinghouse Park. Live music will be provided by Bread and Roses, Eddy Dyer, and David Rovics.

“We're bringing the spirit of May Day back to Lowell in celebration of the labor battles that have been fought, and that are yet to be fought across this country and across this world. At the event we'll be honoring the newly unionized Life Links Workers who are currently fighting for a contract. We'll also recognize the struggle to support amnesty to all immigrant workers,” said the Coalition for a Better Acre.

WORCESTER

In Worcester immigrants and supporters are organizing a local demonstration as part of the growing immigrant rights movement across the United States. The coalition includes local community groups, churches, immigration law attorneys and non-profit organizations, and people from over ten countries including Ghana, Nigeria, and Syria.

Worcester Indymedia (http://worcester.indymedia.org) reported that the Catholic Cathedral announced support for the rally at Spanish masses.
Related stories on this site:
For May Day and Beyond: White People Step up for Immigrant Rights!
May Day (Eve) Celebration in Lowell!
May 1 - Worcester Immigrant Rally - COME
First Resolution of SDS Northeast Regional Conference
Some of the Mayday 'Day Without Immigrants' events
BC Students Support Immigrants

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4pm Rally - Boston Common
26 Apr 2006
May 1, International Workers Day



In Solidarity with

The Great American Strike 2006


A day without immigrants

No work, no school, no buying, no selling!



1886… the fight for the 8-hour day…

2006… today’s fight for full legal rights for all immigrants

In unprecedented mobilizations, millions of immigrant workers and their supporters have made history. We have demonstrated that with numbers we have power. The Los Angeles March 25th Coalition, many immigrant rights organizations, and others around the country have called for a “Gran Paro Americano” (National Strike) on May 1st. May 1st is International Workers Day. This special workers holiday was “born in the USA” on May 1, 1886 when close to two hundred thousand workers in the United States, mostly immigrants, struck for the eight-hour day. Today millions of working people all over the world celebrate May 1st as a day of protest against injustice and in defense of workers rights. However, May Day has been largely forgotten in the land of its birth. This year May Day will be special. As we mobilize for justice for the immigrant community we can help revive that militant workers holiday here in the USA.



The government, employers, and the media conglomerates seek to turn us as working people against each other by talking about “illegal” immigrants who are a “drain on society." But who in this country is not a descendant of immigrants? Like other workers, immigrant workers are exploited, pay many billions yearly in taxes, and are under attack. Immigrants are working people, not criminals, and deserve to be treated with dignity and have the right to be united with their families.

Amnesty for all! No human being is illegal!



When? May 1st, 2006
At what time? 4:00 PM
Where? Rally on BOSTON COMMON
(Park Street, Green Line or Red Line T)


Planning Meeting: Wednesday, April 26th, 6:00 PM

33 Harrison Avenue, Boston (Chinatown)

(Chinatown, Orange Line T or Boylston, Green Line T)



FOR MORE INFORMATION: Boston May Day Coalition 617-407-9433 or 617-566-2861

http://www.nohr4437.org http://www.BostonMayDay.org Email: info (at) BostonMatDay.org



Sponsored by the Boston Mayday Coalition, Centro Presente, Chelsea Uniéndose en Contra de la Guerra, Socialist Alternative, Círculo Bolivariano- MLK, City Life/Vida Urbana, International Socialist Organization, Latinos for Social Change, Greater Boston Stop the Wars Coalition, July 26thCoalition, Proyecto Voz-AFSC (Partial List)
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
26 Apr 2006
I am so glad the students are Harvard are involved. Under the American system, they will run most of the big hospitals, law firms, corporations and the government. Therefore they no doubt will remember this experience and provide full employment at living wages to US workers once these senstive Harvard students take power. Right. Just like the good hearted Harvard students who protested the Vietnma War and who now run the miliary, staff the White House and Congress, and populate the US judicial system. Isn't it so generous of these privilged young people to take notice of workers. I am so impressed.
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
26 Apr 2006
who is the Boston MayDay Coalition? Who is it made up of?
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
26 Apr 2006
I hope this does not blow up in the immigrants faces. Let's face it; the economy isn't going to collapse on May 1. Why don't people who employ illegals(a lot of people) lobby Congress? I think some big businesses have, but ordinary homeowners and small businesses could have a lot of clout with politicians. I really am concerned that a "strike" that doesn't shut anything down will boomerang.
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
26 Apr 2006
There seems to be some confusion about the 4pm rally and its origins and legitimacy. This might explain it better. I would just point out that if the call is for an "act of solidarity with our immigrant workers brothers and sisters" then it looks like the rally is by and for people who are not themselves immigrants.
Still, it seems like the event has the support of some solid community-based groups, especially Centro Presente and City Life/Vida Urbana. City Life says they are planning not to work Monday and attend the 4pm rally on the Common. So despite some misgivings, maybe we can come together and flex some of our latent muscle, to make this the strong statement it needs to be. The following is from the bostonmayday website:

Boston May Day Coalition

We came together to fill in the void produced when no rally was called on May Day in the City of Boston. In the recent past every May Day was marked by a rally and in particular related to the struggle of undocumented immigrant workers. The links between International Workers Day and the struggle of undocumented immigrant workers coming from all over the world cannot be more clear. We are therefore calling on all people to come out on May Day and rally in support of the Great National Strike and Boycott called by immigrant organizations throughout the country.

We emphasize the historical aspects of these struggles from the Haymarket Square Affair in 1886 to the massive demonstrations of immigrant workers today in the U.S. From the struggle for the 8-hours work-day and the struggle for full rights for all immigrants today.

The partial endorsing organizations (listed in alphabetical order) are:

* Centro Presente
* City Life / Vida Urbana
* Chelsea Uniéndose en Contra de la Guerra
* Greater Boston Stop the Wars Coalition
* International Socialist Organization
* Latinos for Social Change
* July 26th Coalition
* Martin Luther King Bolivarian Circle of Boston
* Programa de Solidaridad y Desarrollo de Jóvenes Latinos, AFSC
* Proyecto Voz, AFSC
* Socialist Alternative
* South Asian Solidarity Network
* The Alliance for a Secular and Democratic South Asia.

Please join the coalition and help us make this act of solidarity with our immigrant workers brothers and sisters a successful demonstration.

Our meetings are open to all individuals and groups who support the continued struggles of workers for a better society with the inclusion of immigrant workers.

United we stand!
No human being should ever be illegal!
The people united will never be defeated!

April 2006

For more information: email: info [at] bostonmayday.org
Phone: 617-407-9433 or 617-566-2861
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
26 Apr 2006
This is going to be huge!!! It is going to be the biggest mass protest in history. This is the one you will be telling your grandchildren about.

We have to stay focused though, remember this is about more than just immigration. It is about labor rights more generally. Every working person in the city will be there and we need to help connect the dots between corporate power and reduced wages and opportunities.

See you on the streets.....
Hope is Father to the Wish
26 Apr 2006
Well, Brad I would lilke to think that all of this pro illegal ruckus would lead to a national labor movement. If Americans recovered their rights to living wages and unions it would be worth having some kind of regulated immigration system for the current illegals. But that's not going to happen. Under those great Democrats Carter and Clinton, labor law reform was a low priority, even though the Dems during election time babble on about their love for labor.

Thi illegals could care less about Anglo workers or Black workers. They are about sending money home. They have no class loyalty or national loyalty to America (I know you are not a loyal American either, but your heart is in the right place on labor issues).
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
26 Apr 2006
Fellar, it could lead to greater labor power if we want it to and actively work to create such. The militancy of the immigrants could really bring some energy to the labor movement if we can keep the xenophobic corporate propaganda away. I agree with you on the inefficacy of the dems regarding labor rights.

As far as nationalism is concerned, well it is simply a device of the elite to divide and conqure labor. Madison said as much to Jefferson in his letters to him. You should read William Appleman Williams "Empire as a way of life". It speaks to the ways in which the elite control the geography of society and therefore gain power over the masses and how nationalism acts to create false solidarity with the elite goals aginst their own interest. But this is probably a bit too abscure for you, read Willliams it is history and easy to get the ideas with some context.
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
27 Apr 2006
Dan the Bagelman for president !!!!
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
27 Apr 2006
I noticed that the illegal aliens are referred to as "undocumented workers".
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
27 Apr 2006
Lowell Celebrates May Day!!
In addition to the Celebration of Labor event on April 30th, the Coaltion for a Better Acre is also organizing a Rally on Monday, May Day, at the city hall in Lowell in solidarity with the national struggle for immigrant rights.
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
27 Apr 2006
Oh yeah...

Lowell's May Day rally is at 3:00pm!!!
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
27 Apr 2006
"Better Acre is also organizing a rally...in solidarity with the national struggle for immigrant rights."

Honestly...can you tell me what rights that immigrants don't have that legally came to our nation? Or is your concern with the plight of non-US citizens on their journey to become a US citizen? If the later is your concern, aren't you putting other states citizens rights above this nations citizens rights? Isn't it the job of the government to protect it's citizens best interest, not anothers?
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
27 Apr 2006
A 'day without ILLEGAL immigrants' is a grand idea! But to make it even better and grander why not a week without ILLEGAL immigrants, or a month, or a year, or a millenium! If these poor, darling immigrants are so concerned about organizing for some sort of social and economic "justice" beyond their own narrow self-interest, they should go back to their own home countries and start there! Using the worn -out alibi that the U.S is to blame for all those countries woes is no good. The U.S. has plenty of policies to be criticized for but enforcing an orderly, legal immigration process isn't one of them. Many on the left don't see eye-to-eye on this. Supporting unrestricted ILLEGAL immigration is not automatically the correct position. As usual, there are many on the nominal "left" that are more interested in striking flamboyant public poses than in sensible immigration policy. Ever since the founding of the republic, this country has had immigration laws. There has never been unrestricted entry. ILLEGAL immigrants today are being turned into a 'cause celebre' for political grandstanding purposes. They are not political refugees but ILLEGAL economic migrants on the make. It is perfectly consistent to oppose lawless and exploitive practices of the U.S. government and corporations AND illegal migration into the U.S. The one does not justify the other! But then again, much leftist rhetoric has always been characterized more by emotion than logic.
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
27 Apr 2006
"Ever since the founding of the republic, this country has had immigration laws. There has never been unrestricted entry." agh! 5 mins on Google helps one learn lots of history...

Chinese Exclusion Acts / Immigration Exclusion Act (1882)óprohibited citizenship for Chinese immigrants. Subsequent acts reinforcing the exclusion of Chinese immigrant were passed in 1884, 1886 and 1888.

Immigration Act of 1917: Exclusion of Asian Indians (1917)

Immigrant Act of 1924: Exclusion of Japanese

Tydings-McDuffie Act (1934): Exclusion of Filipinos
cut Filipino immigration to a quota of fifty persons per year, and all Filipinos in the United States were reclassified as 'aliens.'

"Asia Barred Zone" (1917)

1965 Immigration and Naturalization Act Eliminated US immigration discrimination based on race, place of birth, sex and residence. It also officially abolished restrictions on Oriental US immigration.

California's Proposition 187: "California's Proposition 187 passed in 1994, attempts to deny schooling and medical care to illegal immigrants; although the referendum does not specify immigrants from Mexico and Latin America, its execution would certainly be aimed at these groups"

In 1986 (under Reagan), Congress passed the Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA). The Act focused almost exclusively on illegal immigration. The IRCA dealt with undocumented aliens by imposing sanctions on employers, while simultaneously legalizing the status of undocumented entrants who had arrived prior to January 1, 1982. The IRCA also included provisions prohibiting discrimination on the basis of national origin or citizenship.

EVEN MORE INTERESTING:
" After the military coup toppled the democratically elected government in September 1991, the Bush administration imposed economic sanctions on Haiti and suspended interdiction; in November 1991, interdiction recommenced. As a result of the coup, "'hundreds of Haitians [were] killed, tortured, detained without a warrant, or subjected to violence and the destruction of their property because of their political beliefs. Thousands [were] forced into hiding."' In the six months after October 1991, the Coast Guard halted over 34,000 Haitians on the high seas, which exceeded the number interdicted during the previous ten years. "

now we're getting somewhere...
http://academic.udayton.edu/race/02rights/immigr09.htm
http://www.umass.edu/complit/aclanet/USMigrat.html
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
27 Apr 2006
This is a serious question. Please do not delete. I ask BIMC participants: Does the USA pay illegal immigrants unemployment compensation if and when as I believe there will be a major recession or depression in the USA in the next five years?

If you think they should get unemployment compensation, could you explain why other than a general answer that all workers should be treated the same, since they are not like all other American workers since they are not supposed to be here without work permits to begin with?

Thank you with respect.
Feller
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
27 Apr 2006
"Imagine trying to cross the border from Mexico into the U.S.in the blistering heat of summer", etc., etc., etc. No! Don't even imagine it, let alone try it! Stay where you are if you don't have permission to enter. You don't deserve sympathy for breaking the law. Whatever happens if you do try is your own fault, not that of the country you're trying to ILLEGALLY enter! These are not political refugees, they're economic migrants. ILLEGAL immigrants and their wooly-headed sob sisters on this side of the border still can't get used to the idea that they're not above the law. NO OTHER NATION in the world - including Mexico/Brazil/ El Salvador- allow unauthorized immigration! Nowhere else would such ILLEGAL entry and "squatting priveleges" be tolerated, including the countries these ILLEGAL economic migrants came from. Instead of selfishly fleeing, these golddiggers should stay put and organize and protest for improved conditions in their own societies. It's a total cop-out and blatant contradiction to use the simplistic alibi that problems in their own mismanaged, corrupt and exploitive countries are all the fault of the U.S. - and then come here and enjoy everything they can get their greedy hands on themseves. They want to have it both ways! Just like they want to have dual citizenship, in order to crassly work both sides of the street for their own narrow self-interest. And who is going to lose out again, once the dust finally settles? The white working class, of course. The "lower middle class" proles, so very 'politically uncorrect' and so despised by academic leftist snobs showing off in grand public poses for those darling ILLEGAL immigrants. Despite all the self-serving myths, many of these unscrupulous immigrant make out very well for themselves, reaping the rewards of their shadowy status by getting paid in cash and NOT paying taxes. They want all the advantages without any of the obligations. Many no mistake about it, this is no lofty, idealistic movement - these jokers are on the make, pure and simple!
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
27 Apr 2006
Um...sean...that is pronounces HeyZeus!
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
28 Apr 2006
So the way to get ahead is to hold others down? Here I thought it was through hard work.
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
28 Apr 2006
No one is being held down, unless you are being detained for entering our country illegally. I have not heard one single person or group advocate for no one being aloowed into the US. Everyone wants, and it is more than justified, thsoe that enter our country to be doing so legally with teh intent of being productive members of society. It's pretty cut and dry.
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
28 Apr 2006
A 'common' is a public area that belongs to all.

A 'commons' is a dinning area sometimes at a college.

There will be a march to the BOSTON COMMON.
There will be a demonstration on the BOSTON COMMON.
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
28 Apr 2006
You are saying we should hold down those that are not born in a specific geographic area. That they are subject to different rules that you or I. Also you are saying that those that are born outside the US, but have the money to go through the process should be allowed to come, but not those who are poor and looking for work so they can feed their families. It is pretty cut and dry. You think you deserve better treatment than others because you are privleged from being born in a specific geographic area and to a wealthy family and you are saying we should maintain our privleged position by holding other, less fortunate people down. The law is as social device, we can change it to be more egalitarian or we can use it to repress people.
The Polls are Against You
29 Apr 2006
By eight-to-one, Americans think it is unfair to grant rights to illegal immigrants while thousands of people wait each year to come to the United States legally. Fully eighty-six percent of Republicans think it is unfair, as do seventy-seven percent of Democrats.
Opinion Dynamics Poll for FOX News, April 4-5, 2006

Sixty-five percent of those surveyed said they would be willing to pay significantly higher prices for some goods and services should that be the result of tighter control of the southern U.S. border and a resulting lower number of undocumented workers.
Zogby Poll, March 31-April 3, 2006

Fifty-six percent of Americans polled say the U.S. should NOT grant temporary-worker status to foreigners who are here illegally, as this would make them and their families eligible for government services while they are here. We should not reward people who have broken the law, and this will encourage even more people to enter the United States illegally.
NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll, March 10-13, 2006

Fifty-three percent of Americans oppose President Bush's guest worker-amnesty plan for illegal aliens from Mexico.
Hart/McInturff / The Wall Street Journal / NBC News poll, April, 2005

Fourteen percent of Americans "strongly favor" President Bush's proposal to allow foreigners who have jobs but are staying illegally in the United States to apply for legal, temporary-worker status.
Angus Reid Global Scan, April 2005

Two-thirds of likely voters in Florida oppose a plan to allow some illegal aliens to live and work legally in the U.S.
Research 2000 Florida Poll, March, 2005

72 percent of Mexican migrants said the would participate in a program that offered the prospect amnesty for illegal aliens who lived here for five years, continued working and had no problems with legal authorities. Respondents who said they had no U.S.-issued ID were even more positive (79 percent).
Pew Hispanic Center survey of Mexican migrants, March 2005

Fifty-seven percent of respondents oppose a program in which illegal aliens would be allowed to live and work legally in the United States.
Westhill Partners/Hotline Poll, February, 2005

Sixty-eight percent of Texans say the federal government shoud not make it easier for illegal aliens to obtain U.S. citizenship.
Scripps Howard Texas Poll, March 2004

Fifty-six percent of adults say they'd oppose a program in which illegal immigrants from countries other than Mexico would be allowed to live and work legally in the United States.
Gallup Poll, Feb. 9-12, 2004

No issue upset the public more than President Bush' amnesty/guestworker proposals, with only one-third of Americans supporting him on that.
CBS News/New York Times Poll, January 2004

Seventy-four percent of resondents believe the U.S. should NOT make it easier for illegal aliens to become citizens of the U.S.
CNN/Gallup/USA Today Poll, January 2004

Fifty-two percent of Americans oppose President Bush's guest worker-amnesty program for illegal aliens from Mexico; 57 percent oppose such a program for illegal aliens from other countries. Furthermore, at least twice as many Americans strongly oppose the proposal as strongly support it.
ABC News Poll, January, 2004

Americans, 2 to 1, oppose granting amnesty to illegal aliens.
Zogby Poll, June 2002

Americans oppose amnesty, nearly 2 to 1. Hispanics are less likely to vote to reelect Pres. Bush if he supports amnesty.
Zogby Poll, September 2001

Nearly 70 percent of Americans oppose amnesty for illegal aliens.
Gallup Poll, August 2001 national poll of 1,000 adults

61 percent of Americans oppose granting amnesty to illegal aliens.
Harris poll, August, 2001
My poll is bigger than your poll
29 Apr 2006
Oh no were not..All of your polls are what are called "push polls" and include the word amnesty, which no one is talking about.

USA Today/Gallup Poll. April 7-9, 2006. N=1,004 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.
"Thinking now about immigrants -- that is, people who come from other countries to live here in the United States: In your view, should immigration be kept at its present level, increased or decreased?" Only 47% said decreased, while 50% said increased or remain the same.

"Which comes closest to your view about what government policy should be toward illegal immigrants currently residing in the United States? Should the government deport all illegal immigrants back to their home country, allow illegal immigrants to remain in the United States in order to work but only for a limited amount of time, or allow illegal immigrants to remain in the United States and become U.S. citizens but only if they meet certain requirements over a period of time?"
18% responded depot and 80% responded stay for limited or extended time.

CBS News Poll. April 6-9, 2006. N=899 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3 (for all adults).

"Do you think illegal immigrants coming to this country today take jobs away from American citizens, or do they mostly take jobs Americans don't want?" N=464 (Form D)

34% responded to take jobs away while 53% responded take jobs Americans don't want.

"Would you favor or oppose allowing illegal immigrants who have done the following to stay and work in the United States: paid a fine, been in the U.S. for at least five years, paid any back taxes they owe, can speak English, and have no criminal record?" N=427 (Form F)

favor-74% oppose-23%

"Do you think it should or should not be a criminal offense if a U.S. citizen provides food, shelter, or medical care to an illegal immigrant?"

Should-27% should not-67%

FOX News/Opinion Dynamics Poll. April 4-5, 2006. N=900 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 3.

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"In general, do you think immigrants who come to the United States today help the country and make it a better place to live or hurt the country and make it a worse place to live?"

Help-42% Hurt-30% Depends-20%

Time Poll conducted by Schulman, Ronca & Bucuvalas (SRBI) Public Affairs. March 29-30, 2006. N=1,004 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.

"Do you think that people who are here illegally are taking jobs from United States citizens, or are they mostly taking jobs that U.S. citizens do not want or cannot do?"

Taking jobs away from americans-35%
Taking jobs americans don't want-55%

"Two different approaches have been suggested to deal with illegal immigrants. Please tell me which comes closest to your views. (1) Make illegal immigration a crime and not allow anyone who entered the country illegally to work or stay in the United States under any circumstances. OR, (2) Allow illegal immigrants to get temporary work visas so the government can track them and allow them to earn permanent residence after six years if they learn English, pay a fine, pay any back taxes, and have no criminal record." Options rotated

Make Illegal Immigration a Crime-25%
Allow Work Visas, Earn Permanent Residence-72%

"Allowing illegal immigrants now in this country to earn U.S. citizenship if they learn to speak English, have a job and pay taxes"

Favor-78% oppose- 21%

Associated Press-Ipsos poll conducted by Ipsos-Public Affairs. March 28-30, 2006. N=1,003 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.1.

"Would you favor or oppose allowing immigrants with jobs who are in the United States illegally to apply for legal, temporary worker status?"

Favor- 56 Oppose-41

"On balance, do you think illegal immigrants mostly make a contribution to American society, or are they mostly a drain on American society?"

Make a Contribution- 51% A Drain42%

"Do you think it should be a serious criminal offense to enter and remain in the United States without proper documentation or should it be considered a minor offense?"

Serious-47% Minor- 51%

"If a fence were built along the border between the United States and Mexico, how confident are you that such a fence would reduce the number of illegal immigrants? . . . "
Very Confident-6% Somewhat Confident-26% Not Too Confident-29% Not at Al Confident-38%


I could go on and on and on....

Go to: http://www.pollingreport.com/immigration.htm
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
29 Apr 2006
This is a country that has been built by immigrants, everyone is coming from somewhere else. It is unfair to keep in the shadow those that have been working for many years and which is worst, preventing them from having any kind of rights. It is unfair because immigrants are workers that help in the economic grow, like anybody else does. Immigrants are not asking for unemployment insurance, immigrants want the opportunity to work hard and be fairly treated without feeling the menace of being deported or intimidated. After being a long time here all have strong ties, all have friends, couples, relatives, jobs.
This movement is the equivalent to the one started from Washington or for Luther King, the majority favour their cause and of course few opposed....at the end the justice prevailed.
This is the real survey taken from CNN:
"...More than three-quarters of Americans favor allowing illegal immigrants who have spent many years in the United States to apply for citizenship..." according to a poll conducted for CNN by Opinion Research Corp.
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
30 Apr 2006
"English, The Greatest Language In the World!"

Haha.
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
30 Apr 2006
Brad and @ just show how polls can be chosen and constructed to support most positions. Most are fine polls, but some of Brad's polls are completely irrelevant to any political discussion. Namely the polls that don't ask about preference for policy but rather opinion of what is true.

However, I do have to commend Brad over @ for including the actual questions that pollees were asked. It is often the case that the way in which questions are asked can influence answers and this bias introduced in the actual questions is not reflected when the pollsters "analyze" their results.

In the end, I hope everyone of all political persuasions takes polls with a giant quarry of salt.

In particular, asking people whether they believe that illegal immigrants are taking jobs from Americans or are simply doing jobs Americans don't want to do is a ludicrous thing to use for drawing any conclusions (unless you're a politician, in which case all you care about is perception and not truth). Such a question can have an empirical answer and there's no reason that a consensus of public opinion must be the correct answer.

It's really akin to polling the country as to whether evolution or creation (or ID) is "true". Just because probably 60% of the country would say creation is true, doesn't make it so.

But the polls about policy are perfectly fine
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
30 Apr 2006
You are correct on the issue of asking someones oppinion on an issue, however in the case of predicting future voting behavior it becomes relevent.

What about the push poll questions (@) sited, you have no problems with asking people:"Fifty-six percent of Americans polled say the U.S. should NOT grant temporary-worker status to foreigners who are here illegally, as this would make them and their families eligible for government services while they are here. We should not reward people who have broken the law, and this will encourage even more people to enter the United States illegally."

This is simply a bad poll. What I learned in Advanced research methods for social scientists is that a question should never include, "as this might lead to.." or "because this may cause..."
Also some of the polls ask if the government should grant amnesty, which no one is proposing.

Also, I am sorry for feeding the troll, but I just can't stand disimformation.
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
30 Apr 2006
You're right, Brad, that push polling is an idiotic thing (not for people who don't care about truth but only care about being able to say x% of people "support them"). But I think for many who are thoughtful individuals, just having the opportunity to read the actual questions that were asked pollees is enough to get some idea of how to compensate for the bias in that particular poll (and I thank you for including the questions in your post).
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
01 May 2006
Hey,

You know, I come here because I am interested in what PEOPLE have to say about the immigration debate. Here I see the same few people posting under a bunch of different names and calling eachother dumb. BIMC- I know that you guys have access to the IP addresses that log on an off the site- therefor I assume the comments as well. Would it be possible to make is so there is a letter- A, B,C or what ever the person chooses - I don't care... Per IP? they can sign it whatever they want.... But this has honestly gotten ridiculous.
Thanks,
-Hali
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
02 May 2006
As so-called "Trailer Trash", born and bred in the Belly of the Beast, I am 110% for immigrants rights. I know what it's like to have to move just to survive. Any worker who is against immigrants is just buying into the propaganda of the big bosses and their media. Don;'t be stupid! A worker is a worker, regardless of ethnicity or point of origin. Corporate America is just doing it's old divide and conquer routine, this time with "immigrants" as the focus. How many times are workers going to fall for getting angry at other workers instead of getting angry at the bosses and their system? Amnesty now for all undocumented workers as a step towards a socialist world without borders! And btw, I refused to go to work yesterday in solidarity with the General Strike and Boycott and I went down to the rally at the Common at 4 pm and I had an excellent time!
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
06 May 2006
it is frustrating trying to navigate the stream of childish insults and other disruptive behavior that seems to plague this imc, but the editors deserve credit for keeping things as civil as it is. there is a whole lot that gets removed, and the disruptive stuff gets dealt with eventually.

also, at least this imc, and probably others too, have stopped logging ip addresses of people who post to the site, since the fbi tried to seize those records a couple years ago. people can voluntarily verify their identities to other readers each time they post but most people don't bother, or at most leave an email address.

in the meantime, try to ignore the trolls and focus on the issue the thread is bringing up. trolls thrive on attention, and the rest of us are here for creating an alternative community of ideas.
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
06 May 2006
the watcher
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(I hope)
Re: May Day 2006: El Gran Paro Americano
06 May 2006
You can think whatever you want, but from my experience on Monday, I actually had to look hard to find the boycott. When I found stores closed it was only Latino stores in Latino Neighborhoods that cater mainly to...you guessed it, Latinos. But I engaged in my own counter boycott as did many of my friends. On Monday, during my lunch break and after work, I went out with the goal of spending money on things that I would not normally buy. While in a store in Cambridge, I met a South American Family who were out shopping. i asked them why they had not joined the boycott. The father answered in perfect English, with enough of an accent to know that he was not born here, that he did not support the boycott because he did not support illegal immigration. He and his family came here legally and he expected others to do the same. I had originally intended to spend about $200.00 but while in Cambridge, I found a couple of nice business suits and ended up spending about $1000.00 total. It was a great day.