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News :: Race
Israeli holiday protest at Boston Public Library- 2 Arrests
25 May 2006
2 anti racist pro Palestine activists were arrested on the side walk in front of the boston public library tonight. Both were charged with disturbing the peace, tresspassing, and resisting arrest. Minutes before the arrests both activists were forced out of the public library by no less then 5 boston cops.
Only five Americans could be troubled to turn out for a protest against an Israeli government holiday event celebrating the colonial conquest and military occupation of Jerusalem. A few cops were waiting when we arrived which was expected because cops are the only people who come to our Palestine solidarity demonstrations when we post on the Boston Anarchist list and Boston Indy media.

We made some new signs and verbally spared with the usual deranged Zionist racists. A member of the Jewish states entertainment band spit in the face of an activist carrying a "victory to the intifada" sign. The library’s security detail let her into the library and did nothing about it. The president of the library came out to tell us they would take anybody’s money and if we wanted to have an event we could schedule our own. He also said he would have our signs thrown out as litter if we weren’t holding them.

A couple of activists went inside to enjoy the facilities and monitor the happenings but were quickly accosted by police and library staff who tore a flag and two signs out of our hands. A very large cop tore up a sign and thru it out. The police continued to assault us in the library for about 10 minutes until their buddies showed up and dragged us out with the ominous warning "Stay Off Public Property!"

One activist was latter attacked on the side walk, had his glasses knocked off and was arrested when he complained about being assaulted by the police and the other was arrested while holding a sign and saying "Look what you can’t say in America, help us America, help us."

In jail the cops gave some of the usual harresment and one said that it wasnt his tax money supporting the occupation. "Jews own the world they dont need my money to do that." he stated.

Both were released on a total of $280 bail.

Please come to Boston District court for support
today Thursday 9:00 am 24 New Chardon street
and Friday 9:00am 24 New Chardon street

Please call the president of the Library and ask about his support for occupation and ask him to return our Palestine flag and "victory to the Intifada sign"

President Mr. Bernard Margolis-617-859-2366 bmargolis (at) bpl.org
Chief of Public Services- Ms. Deirdre Brennan
617-859-2382- dbrennan (at) bpl.org

Please call the DA in boston and ask them to decline to prosecute the two demonstrators arrested in front of the boston public library wednesday night
(617) 619-4000.

thanks
Boston Anti Zionist Action ...BAZA

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See also:
http://www.bazabaza.blogspot.com

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It Looks Like a Nation; Smells Like a Nation
25 May 2006
"deranged Zionist racists"? This is a News article?

If the Zionists were so deranged, they wouldn't have run a successful state in an unstable area like the Middle East for nearly 80 years.

The putative Palestinians and their wealthy allies in the Gulf and in former years in the Soviet Bloc were unable to take over and destroy these "deranged" people who produce state of the art technology and have productivity in agriculture and industry that the presumably non-deranged neighbors of Israel only dream about.

The Hamas and Palestinian fascists and their Islamist supporters, along with the anti-Jewish nutcases on BIMC sites are who live in a deranged, namecalling world. In the meantime Israel works, it succeeds. It is part of the contemporary world.

Why don't you redirect your energies to the expulsion of Anglo Saxons and Nromans from Great Britain and the restoration of Celtic "rights"?

David Duke already has a movement like that going that you can join.
Re: Israeli holiday protest at Boston Public Library- 2 Arrests
25 May 2006
BAZA, please do not write off the enitre Boston Anarchist community as being unsympathetic to Palestinian goals. Personally, I had another meeting to attend to last night, and certainly would have been there otherwise. There is a divide within the anarchist community on the Zionist issue, yes, but not all of us are ignoring your message.

From the river to the sea...
Re: Israeli holiday protest at Boston Public Library- 2 Arrests
25 May 2006
Bemused had an odd supposition. That ZIonists have a birthright of murderous theft of palestinian lands because ZIonists are such better people.

No sir, the "ubbermensch" mentality didn't die in the bunker with Hitler. Zionists and thier enablers use the same offensive rationalization.

I am suprized noone called bemused on his vile propaganda. I point out how absurd it is every time a new Zionist propagandist at BIMC writes such filth. And I usually thank them for being so obvious in thier prejudiced and point out that it is only when one is NOT thinking about what they are saying/writing, that you can be 100% sure that hey are saying/writing exactly what they are thinking.

It isn't really odd that murderous thieves of differant tribes use the same rationalizations. When you think about it, there are only a limited number of rationalization murderous thieves have to rationalize thier offenses.

And Kelly thinks "Jews" have a home of thier own. A home of thier own? Thier OWN??? No, Zionists occupying PAlestinian lands doesn't make Palestine a jewish "home of thier own" any more than nazis occupying Czech lands made Czech lands a German homes.

It isn't too suprizing that Zionist crusaders celebrate thier past successes in thier bloodsoaked war of conquest. Haven't you seen the video of Hitler in paris dancing a little jig, smilling like he was something special. Many videos show murderous thieving Zionist crusaders dancing in celebration in 1948, when they started thier murderous theft of palestinian lands, and in 1967, when they murdered to steal other Palestinian lands in the six day war the Zionists started. Yep, murderous thieves are rpoud of thier offenses.
Re: Israeli holiday protest at Boston Public Library- 2 Arrests
25 May 2006
This little group of anti-semites,the same 2-4 people with no community support proves that America loves Israel and hates anti-semitic neo-nazis.Maybe these deranged people are masochists who like being spit on, yelled at and arrested .The left-wing groups ignore them because they are anti-semites.
Re: Israeli holiday protest at Boston Public Library- 2 Arrests
25 May 2006
First off, I'm sorry that two of you were arrested. I hope that the charges are dropped quickly.

>A few cops were waiting when we arrived which was expected
>because cops are the only people who come to our Palestine
>solidarity demonstrations when we post on the Boston Anarchist
>list and Boston Indy media.

Well, if you were to organize instead of preach at people, and if you didn't have ridiculous signs about Zionist aggression in Sudan (which make you sound more liek the far right ranting about ZOG), maybe people on the left would consider your actions worth coming to.

If you want to show that you're not anti-Semitic, how about you file a complaint against the cop who said that Jews own the world? What was his/her badge number?

Honestly, folks, your strategy and message repel far more people than they attract. You can claim that this is because you're the only ones who are truly radical, or you can step back, breathe deep, and reconsider what you're saying. It's up to you.
Re: Israeli holiday protest at Boston Public Library- 2 Arrests
25 May 2006
Dear Ms. Brennan,

A few months ago I viewed an exhibition denouncing Nazi Germans at the BPL. So I was shocked and sickened to learn that you then hosted a Celebration of Racial Supremacism commemorating the mass murder and expulsion of "inferior" (ie. non-Jewish) ethnic groups from the Holy Land!

As a tax-paying American I am horrified to find Zionists - genocidal racists - taking the stage in my library. What dark evil are you, Ms. Brennan, participating in, that you are inviting an Israeli racial propagandist to do a "musical performance" in which she spits on Americans? (Literally.) The Boston Public Library hosted a hate crime. Really, Ms. Brennan. Is this what you stand for?

You need to cease these shameless public celebrations of racially motivated violence at the library. You know as I know that Israel is a criminal government and that you have NO BUSINESS involving a publicly-funded institution like the library in such despicable commemorations of evil.

I believe that, should you decide to organize another celebration of hate in the library, that a lawsuit would be in order, for you are creating a hostile environment for anyone who is loyal to American values like equal rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. This is illegal.

I ask that you drop the charges against the patriotic Americans you had arrested yesterday.

Sincerely,
XXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX, Boston
Re: Israeli holiday protest at Boston Public Library- 2 Arrests
26 May 2006
The Boston cop was right! Zionist Jews own the world,but 5 billion dollars of Americans taxes each year go to Israel.So the cop does help pay for the crimes of Israel.No they don't need our tax dollars,but they can always put our money to good use.It does cost alot to run the largest prison camp in the world and have the 4th largest nuclear weapons arsenal in the world.
Re: Israeli holiday protest at Boston Public Library- 2 Arrests
26 May 2006
as a boston anarchist, and a jew and an pro-palestinian, i of course sympathize with you. but seriously, you look like idiots with that sign about Sudan. i agree with 'big surprise', a lot of people are turned away from these things because of shit like that.

by the way, what were y'all thinking coming into the mayday march with that stupid stupid sign?
To "Boston Anarchist"
26 May 2006
"There is a divide within the anarchist community on the Zionist issue, yes, but not all of us are ignoring your message."

OH come on, there isn't that much of a "divide" within the "community" about Zionism, and you know that. The biggest "divide" within the Boston anarchist "community" on this issue is whether or not anything good could possibly come out of working with counter-productive, self-righteous, single-issue, single-tactic, whiny, obsessive nutjobs who do everything one could possibly imagine to alienate themselves from a potentially sympathetic public.
Re: Israeli holiday protest at Boston Public Library- 2 Arrests
26 May 2006
Someone should make " Flannelman" ( I think I know who "Izzy" is refering to) a new sign to carry at demonstrations. I'm a vet and I don't agree with the war in Iraq, but I really want to punch his lights out when i see him carrying a sign that reads "Victory to the Iraq Resistance" ( i.e Sadaam's ex-henchmen and other former members of the Baathist party) at every demonstration I have been to. That's just great Flannelman, let's get more working class kids killed to forward your nut job far left goals. You're fucking pathetic !
Re: Israeli holiday protest at Boston Public Library- 2 Arrests
26 May 2006
Additionally, I hereby propose that "flannelman" be this individual's nickname from now on.
Re: Israeli holiday protest at Boston Public Library- 2 Arrests
26 May 2006
Look, he has a name. I've argued with him and disagree with him vociferously on many things, but I respect the fact that he has a name. Getting into silliness about calling him "flannelman" is kind of juvenile.
boston imc = zionist supremacist hotbed
26 May 2006
nice going mdoerators. this shit is out of control
Re: Israeli holiday protest at Boston Public Library- 2 Arrests
28 May 2006
The Flannelman rules.He kicks zionist ass and isn't afraid to speak out even when it's unpopular.He takes more abuse verbal and physical and no one can stop him.The wimps would never take such risks.Most Americans are lazy cowards who love to bully people who can't fight back.Flannelman is out in the streets all the time challenging the statu quo and he won't back down.I wish there were many more Flannelmen in Boston.I'll stand with the Flannelman .You may not agree with him but the man isn't afraid of anyone.
Re: Israeli holiday protest at Boston Public Library- 2 Arrests
28 May 2006
Look at all the zionists complaining about Flannal man. .This is why the world hates the US/israel zionist spoiled rotten cry babies.They think they're so superior.They can't stand it when the Arabs make fun of them and tell them to go to hell and get out of the Middle east.Flannal man is speaking for the Arabs and the zionists can't stand it.
Re: Israeli holiday protest at Boston Public Library- 2 Arrests
29 May 2006
wow flannelman is a risk to the zionists so they are trying to silence him.

shut up. i'm not a zionist, but that man bothers me. you don't have to be a zionist to realize he's a prick.
Re: Israeli holiday protest at Boston Public Library- 2 Arrests
29 May 2006
Victory to the Iraqi resistance! Jihad! Death to all the AmeriKKKan soldiers! Something about Zionists in Darfur to alienate myself from just about everyone at the Mayday protests.
Re: Israeli holiday protest at Boston Public Library- 2 Arrests
29 May 2006
"Only five Americans could be troubled to turn out for a protest against an Israeli government holiday event celebrating the colonial conquest and military occupation of Jerusalem. A few cops were waiting when we arrived which was expected because cops are the only people who come to our Palestine solidarity demonstrations when we post on the Boston Anarchist list and Boston Indy media.

We made some new signs and verbally spared with the usual deranged Zionist racists."

See this is why the public at large has no interest in the Israel/Palestine issue. It's a bunch of true believers (a less generous term would be fanatics) on both sides who rant and scream at each other. Nothing's ever going to be settled, you can argue for 1,000 years and it won't make a lick of difference to either side.
Re: Israeli holiday protest at Boston Public Library- 2 Arrests
30 May 2006
Victory to the Iraqi resistance!
Re: Israeli holiday protest at Boston Public Library- 2 Arrests
30 May 2006
Liam, why do you mischaracterize the Palestinian struggle for liberation and justice? It has nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with colonialism. Who writes the checks for your socialist organization I wonder? Don't you realize from the failed socialist-dominated antiwar movement in the U.S. that association with the likes of you is the kiss of death for any movement? No one agrees with you, ok? Give it a rest.
The animals kill their own
31 May 2006
Masked Al Aksa Martyrs’ Brigades gunmen on Tuesday publicly executed a Palestinian man and woman they suspected of having spied for Israel.

The man was shot dead in the main street of a refugee camp, with a large crowd looking on. The woman was later shot to death by her relatives in the courtyard of the West Bank’s largest hospital.

The Aksa Martyrs’ Brigades, an offshoot of Palestinian Chairman Mahmoud Abbas’s Fatah movement, accused Jafal Abu Tzrur, 24, of having informed the IDF where to find three of its members. The three were killed by IDF troops during a raid on the Balata refugee camp near Nablus earlier this year.

Al Aksa gunmen interrogated Abu Tzrur, claimed he confessed and then dragged him into Balata’s main street. As a large crowd looked on, the gunmen threw Abu Tzrur to the ground, witnesses said. When he tried to get up, the gunmen killed him with several shots, the witnesses said.

The movement said it also killed Odad Abu Mustafa, 27, a Nablus woman. Abu Mustafa was married to one of the Aksa men slain by Israel, and was reportedly having an affair with Abu Tzrur.

Abu Mustafa, a mother of four, was shot by gunmen and male relatives on grounds that she shamed her clan. More than 15 people took part in the execution, witnesses said. It took place in the courtyard of Raffidiyeh Hospital, the West Bank’s largest.

She was then taken into the courtyard of the hospital, said Yousef Mahmoud, 18, who witnessed the killing.

“One of the gunmen said ‘where is her brother?’ and when he stepped forward they said to him ‘you know what you need to do,”’ he said. “The brother took out a gun and shot her in the head with one bullet.”

Mahmoud said the brother then emptied the entire clip into the body of his sister, while the surrounding gunmen fired into the air. He said that the woman remained silent throughout and did not resist her captors.

Neighbors of the woman said she had four children; two boys and two girls, ranging in age from 11 to three and a half.
Re: Israeli holiday protest at Boston Public Library- 2 Arrests
31 May 2006
> Liam, why do you mischaracterize the Palestinian struggle for
> liberation and justice? It has nothing to do with Islam and
> everything to do with colonialism.

Um, try telling someone from Hamas that the Palestinain struggle has nothing to do with Islam.

You and Liam are actually doing the same thing--trying to stuff the complexities of the Palestinan political scene into a simplified box. Liam wants to use calls for socialist unity, which, while nice, are a throwback to another time. (And if you read the Avnery article to which he links, this will likely become clear.)

Your approach appears to be to say that it's all about colonialism while rejecting socialism (which is amusing, as anti-colonialism and socialism are closely linked historically and analytically). But your assertion that the Palestinian struggle is about as tied to reality as slogans like "For a Socialist Middle East" (and hey, at least Liam doesn't say that a socialist Middle East exists).

To be sure, many Palestinians are Christian, and many others are secular. And many Muslim Palestinians don't make Islam central to their politics (though some of them, like the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, are based in Marxism-Leninism. Don't tell Liam).

But the simple fact is that many Palestinians DO support political Islam. Hamas won 44% of the vote in the last election. Do you know Hamas' full name? It's Harakat al-Muqāwamah al-Islāmiyyah, which translates to the Islamic Resistance Front. And beyond Hamas, I'm sure that there are many Muslim Palestinians for whom religion plays a role in their politics, ranging from pacifists to members of Islamic Jihad.

Whatever you think about the situation in Israel and Palestine, make sure that you're dealing with the facts, particularly when you accuse others of "mischaracterizing."
yep
01 Jun 2006
Nobody but IMC has political dicussion and commentary like this.
Early Pionering Zionists
01 Jun 2006
The early Diaspora Jews that were returning to their ancient home land from the bigotry and racism that they were subjected were active socialists.

They created farms were there was nothing after buying the land from absentee arab landlords like Arafat's grandparents. They hired and trained arab workers to assist in these endeavors since the arabs were barely eking out a subsistence existence since their arab landlords made no effort to reinvest their proffits into their arab tenent's attempts.